My personal experience with various Hgh- TP, Opti, GoodLyfe, Serostim...

[T&H]

I was always under the impression that the more extreme the carpal tunnel, the more you could be assured your HGH was the real deal and high quality, but based on this thread it looks like the higher the quality, the LESS carpal tunnel there is, does this sound right?

Not necessarily in 100% of the cases. I believe sides can be very individualistic, as I get no carpal tunnel even at 10iu of generics. Plenty of guys on here have posted about it even at 3 to 4iu.

 

[Jbagel132]

Not necessarily in 100% of the cases. I believe sides can be very individualistic, as I get no carpal tunnel even at 10iu of generics. Plenty of guys on here have posted about it even at 3 to 4iu.

Understood, I guess what I’m trying to get at is how severe the carpal tunnel is, is a poor indicator of quality, would you agree?

 

[Evom1]

I was always under the impression that the more extreme the carpal tunnel, the more you could be assured your HGH was the real deal and high quality, but based on this thread it looks like the higher the quality, the LESS carpal tunnel there is, does this sound right?

I do not believe cts is an indicator of high quality Hgh. I had the least cts on legit pharma I knew came right from someone's prescription.

There are people who hardly get cts from anything, and some who get it from everything. I would be more inclined to think excessive cts is an indicator of impurities. Cts will happen at certain doses, but if you get crazy cts at 2iu of xyz generic but none with pharma, that says something

 

[Jbagel132]

I do not believe cts is an indicator of high quality Hgh. I had the least cts on legit pharma I knew came right from someone's prescription.

There are people who hardly get cts from anything, and some who get it from everything. I would be more inclined to think excessive cts is an indicator of impurities. Cts will happen at certain doses, but if you get crazy cts at 2iu of xyz generic but none with pharma, that says something

Okay thanks for your input, my friend was telling me that cts was “how you knew it was the real deal” and that “good gh will give you crazy carpal tunnel”.

 

[Evom1]

Okay thanks for your input, my friend was telling me that cts was “how you knew it was the real deal” and that “good gh will give you crazy carpal tunnel”.

That mentality used to be all over but I think over time it's been found to be not true.

 

[TatumMVP2023]

I've been on Opti Black tops for 3 months . No issue with CTS . I'm only up to 2iu but feeling good so far .

 

[Flex22]

I’m in agreement with what Evom said about CTS not having anything to do with the quality of the gh. Ive ran almost every great generic that stood the test of time and very rarely have I ever had CTS unless I was gettin close to the 8-10iu daily mark . And it was the same when I ran many many times US pharma “Nutropin”. I them for the first time way before they were pens and then many many times when the transferred over to pens. And with those they gave me the absolute worst CTS I’ve ever come close to when I ran anything above 6iu. But there’s also things to take into consideration. I was a complete “newbe” to the gh game and didn’t know much of anything. Before the pens I honestly could’ve been running 10+iu I don’t remeber but as time went on through experimentation I can def say they CTS with them 6 or higher wasn’t just for a little bit of time it was most of the day. It got brutal at night and when I woke up. I wish I knew then what I know now knowledge wise cause I could’ve utilized them so much better. This kid had a script and had literally his parents whole fruit and veggie fridge drawers jus full of kits. And I was gettin them for so insanely cheap cuz he had no idea nor did I what the goin price was. I remeber gettin 60iu pens for $50 and then cheaper when I bought more and more . Those were my good ole days

 

[thehogsters]

Been doing Opti black tops for 5 months now. 4 IU every day, started doing 8IU twice per week and 4IU the other 5 days. No noticeable pains that I can tell. I like these blacks more than his greys

 

[Country Club Hero]

I have used GH for almost a decade now but lately I’ve started retaining more water so I want to try pharma. I’ve only used a few Geno pens prior and loved it but too expensive for continuous use. I have no idea what other good brands of pharma are but if anyone wants to share a name and source I would appreciate it.

 

[Bigzach1234]

Been doing Opti black tops for 5 months now. 4 IU every day, started doing 8IU twice per week and 4IU the other 5 days. No noticeable pains that I can tell. I like these blacks more than his greys

Thanks for this. Been looking for someone who can compare his black top to greys for a bit. No one seems to havebrun both, you like black tops better? Results better cleaner? How about water retention etc?

They both tested similar. I just don't understand the whole grey tops come from gmp lab thing. Seems to not make any difference and more a marketing thing.

 

[disastrousupbringing]

Did you notice differences in water retention? I would assume the worst CTS, the more water retention.

I ran Goodlyfe at 5iu ED, and experienced no CTS, other than waking up with numb has in the morning.

Right now running QSC kits at 5ius ED for months now, no sides at all, but were very cheap (70 a kit) direct from their factory.

Checking in on your results with qsc. Debating trying them with my next order. Currently running opti blacks at 3ius/day with no s/e. Haven’t seen much feedback on qsc’s and none of the testing opti posts for there’s. So I’m a bit hesitant

 

[thehogsters]

Thanks for this. Been looking for someone who can compare his black top to greys for a bit. No one seems to havebrun both, you like black tops better? Results better cleaner? How about water retention etc?

They both tested similar. I just don't understand the whole grey tops come from gmp lab thing. Seems to not make any difference and more a marketing thing.

It's been a few years but from what I remember there's not much difference between the two. Blacks are cheaper, same results and I'm not hurting.

 

[Lord Commander]

Carpal tunnel is also a possible side effect of hypothyroidism. You have more water retention, especially the extracellular kind.