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Anyone over 35 still pct?

KCMO said:
Doesnt even have to be 300mg, thats still cycle territory. I recently lowered my test from 200mg test e a week to 100mg a week. My test levels at 200mg were 2350, more than double the high normal lab range. I felt great, but im a fatty so my estrogen was way high. I think that not having negative markers at 300mg probably is very individual, and if true TRT between cycles is the goal, matching natural levels is probably the safe way to go.
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Holy shit. That shows the wide variability in response from users. I git my script bumped up to 210 test c pw plus some extras when my blood on 150 came back 516. Dr says its bc I have almost no shbg so on the flip side I always have high free test
 
Following - as someone who recently started aas on the wrong side of 40, still in the phase of determining if I want to permanently cruise or not.

For those perma-cruising, would be interested in what people are using for bloodwork and how often - the panels for >1500ft seem to be pretty expensive at least that I'm seeing.
 
beachathlete said:
Following - as someone who recently started aas on the wrong side of 40, still in the phase of determining if I want to permanently cruise or not.

For those perma-cruising, would be interested in what people are using for bloodwork and how often - the panels for >1500ft seem to be pretty expensive at least that I'm seeing.
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I’d love to pct. when I’m on high test I say to myself that I can be just as strong and feel the same off drugs, then I pct and within a few weeks I feel like shit and get back on. Longest I went off gear was in 2014, I went off everything for 4 months after a clomid and nolva pct and 4 months later my TT was 145. Could not function.

Past 7 years I’ve tried every pct. scally one, lupron, enclomiphene, gnrh, kisspeptin etc and never got my LH above .7. Really sucks. So I’m stuck on trt but at doses of 100 mg a week my TT is 6-800, but I still feel off, tired, lethargic etc. I’m 42, 5 kids 7 and under, Work my ass off at work and home. I get up at 6:30, don’t stop or sit down will 10 pm then work out. I know it’s prob in my head but I feel like I need more testosterone to function on such a high level. When I’m only on 100 mg, I have no energy and tell my kids no I can’t play outside right now cause I’m so tired! I HATE that! So I’m planning on cruising on 300 mg for the time being. Hope it’s not stupid or cutting 20 years off my life.

As for labs, I go to quest, get them whenever I want and honestly, I don’t ever remember paying for them but then again I pay 1600 a month for insurance
 
Demondosage said:
Almost always 200/wk test. I switch between eq, primo, deca, and could pair something with my test at any given time. But rare to run more than 2 injectable together anymore
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When you add the other injectable what dosages do you run aside the 200mg test?
 
If I could recover I would most definitely PCT!!

If it wasn't for a spinal cord injury cutting off the signal to my balls, I would probably have never jumped on gear.....I never had anything against it or any dumb shit like that, just didn't see a point for me. Now if I'm already pinning 2x a week, what the fuck is a little more lol, may as well push myself to the next level.

The only thing that's eats at me is wanting another kid..... I'm sure with enough HCG it will be alright.


For all us "older " guys. I am seriously considering a 0.1 triptorelin PCT guys on blast and cruise for ten years have come back on this one......maybe feeling like shit for a month is worth it?
 
BodyMechanic said:
When you add the other injectable what dosages do you run aside the 200mg test?
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I will take equipoise at 400-600mg per week, primo I'll take up to 700/wk, on the deca I keep a slight offset which I can handle well, but more conservative on the deca (200/wk test, 300/wk deca)

I have some masteron on the way and my next run is going to be 300/300/300 masteron, test prop, primo , on top of my 200/wk TRT. TRT script test never gets dropped, in the words of Dan Duchaine ,"pharm grade script drugs always #1"
 
I prefer to be on cycle more than off. A pct isn't applicable for me if I'm getting on 4-5 weeks after a blast . I don't bother with hcg on cycle anymore either. Im stocked on pct drugs and used hcg from day one and got natty bloods before day 1. But after my first 2 cycles pct went out the window. My natty test was 850ish at 28. Going into my third year using gear now. I only get bloods for ugl credit now.
 
Demondosage said:
I will take equipoise at 400-600mg per week, primo I'll take up to 700/wk, on the deca I keep a slight offset which I can handle well, but more conservative on the deca (200/wk test, 300/wk deca)

I have some masteron on the way and my next run is going to be 300/300/300 masteron, test prop, primo , on top of my 200/wk TRT. TRT script test never gets dropped, in the words of Dan Duchaine ,"pharm grade script drugs always #1"
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Ever go higher on the test?
 
Demondosage said:
I will take equipoise at 400-600mg per week, primo I'll take up to 700/wk, on the deca I keep a slight offset which I can handle well, but more conservative on the deca (200/wk test, 300/wk deca)

I have some masteron on the way and my next run is going to be 300/300/300 masteron, test prop, primo , on top of my 200/wk TRT. TRT script test never gets dropped, in the words of Dan Duchaine ,"pharm grade script drugs always #1"
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Would adding eq or var be overkill
 
Theworm said:
I’d love to pct. when I’m on high test I say to myself that I can be just as strong and feel the same off drugs, then I pct and within a few weeks I feel like shit and get back on. Longest I went off gear was in 2014, I went off everything for 4 months after a clomid and nolva pct and 4 months later my TT was 145. Could not function.

Past 7 years I’ve tried every pct. scally one, lupron, enclomiphene, gnrh, kisspeptin etc and never got my LH above .7. Really sucks. So I’m stuck on trt but at doses of 100 mg a week my TT is 6-800, but I still feel off, tired, lethargic etc. I’m 42, 5 kids 7 and under, Work my ass off at work and home. I get up at 6:30, don’t stop or sit down will 10 pm then work out. I know it’s prob in my head but I feel like I need more testosterone to function on such a high level. When I’m only on 100 mg, I have no energy and tell my kids no I can’t play outside right now cause I’m so tired! I HATE that! So I’m planning on cruising on 300 mg for the time being. Hope it’s not stupid or cutting 20 years off my life.

As for labs, I go to quest, get them whenever I want and honestly, I don’t ever remember paying for them but then again I pay 1600 a month for insurance
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You are probably not getting enough sleep if you workout after 10:00 p.m. but are waking up at 6:30. After a while, that has to wear on you.
 
Now, although I don't care much for winny tabs or water based winstrol, if I could find oil based I would consider that from time to time when dieting hard. Oil based winny is the cats ass!!
 
Theworm said:
I’d love to pct. when I’m on high test I say to myself that I can be just as strong and feel the same off drugs, then I pct and within a few weeks I feel like shit and get back on. Longest I went off gear was in 2014, I went off everything for 4 months after a clomid and nolva pct and 4 months later my TT was 145. Could not function.

Past 7 years I’ve tried every pct. scally one, lupron, enclomiphene, gnrh, kisspeptin etc and never got my LH above .7. Really sucks. So I’m stuck on trt but at doses of 100 mg a week my TT is 6-800, but I still feel off, tired, lethargic etc. I’m 42, 5 kids 7 and under, Work my ass off at work and home. I get up at 6:30, don’t stop or sit down will 10 pm then work out. I know it’s prob in my head but I feel like I need more testosterone to function on such a high level. When I’m only on 100 mg, I have no energy and tell my kids no I can’t play outside right now cause I’m so tired! I HATE that! So I’m planning on cruising on 300 mg for the time being. Hope it’s not stupid or cutting 20 years off my life.

As for labs, I go to quest, get them whenever I want and honestly, I don’t ever remember paying for them but then again I pay 1600 a month for insurance
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You need more sleep, no matter how much test you take you need more sleep.
 
I was considering trying to pct and try to go back to normal but I feel like at 35yrs old and cycling for years that it’s too far gone and it’s the TRT life for me. I’ve been ordering from sources but if this is going to be for the long haul I feel like getting a script would be essential. For those that have scripts do you go through an endo or urologist? I live in PA and in my area I’ve been through 2 endos and 1 urologist and all would not give me a script. Instead they all wanted me to keep taking bloods month after month to see if my levels would return to normal.
 
ScruffMcBuff said:
I was considering trying to pct and try to go back to normal but I feel like at 35yrs old and cycling for years that it’s too far gone and it’s the TRT life for me. I’ve been ordering from sources but if this is going to be for the long haul I feel like getting a script would be essential. For those that have scripts do you go through an endo or urologist? I live in PA and in my area I’ve been through 2 endos and 1 urologist and all would not give me a script. Instead they all wanted me to keep taking bloods month after month to see if my levels would return to normal.
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They are idiots.

Either do legit via defy medical or find some clinics in Florida that will give u whatever you want.
 
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