Anyone want to help frank the tank

Good to see The Bull made it to your place @wedorecover . Time to get him rebuilt like fresh and new and even more jacked :)

If he fell off the wagon he can get the willpower and inner strength to hop back on with all the moral support from you and others.
 
From my experience many recovering addicts, steroids have led to relapse. Going clean means going clean.
Its unfortunate that that has been your experience. Not mine. I'm coming up on 4 years and stay active in my recovery. Key word active. I run 2 mens homes and the #1 cause of relapse is not working a program (resting on laurels) #2 unwillingness to do whatever it takes.

@wedorecover if I can ever do anything to help let me know. I Love all addicts/alcoholics the same. I hate to see one of us suffer. It breaks my heart.

No fronts but congratulations tomorrow on 6 years.
 
Its unfortunate that that has been your experience. Not mine. I'm coming up on 4 years and stay active in my recovery. Key word active. I run 2 mens homes and the #1 cause of relapse is not working a program (resting on laurels) #2 unwillingness to do whatever it takes.

@wedorecover if I can ever do anything to help let me know. I Love all addicts/alcoholics the same. I hate to see one of us suffer. It breaks my heart.

No fronts but congratulations tomorrow on 6 years.
Thank u brother
 
@wedorecover You are a good dude! Its good to see the good ole Meso Bros showing up when one of us is in real need of help. You and I have always been tight. As always my brother, get me on the low if you ever need help of any kind. Stay up homey!
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Well do man ... and ty your the first person i talk to on meso and I helped me out .... i never forget things like that
 
Ya know reading this thread makes me feel like there is still hope for humanity. Never in my life have i seen a forum come together like this to help someone in need. Addiction is a bitch that is for sure, god knows i've head my trying times with alcohol and pain meds. God Bless all you guys! i hope everything works out for him.
 
Maybe it should morph into an anti aas thread. Deprived of the chosen stimuli (drugs, alcohol) addicts and alcoholics rush to plan b. Pussy, aas, work, food- anything to blot out the reality of the situation and change the fact that they are still the exact same person who picked up in the first place- worse off due to substance abuse damage.

People are quick to cosign gear or girls or food since it is less destructive than dope, but anything that distracts an addict from the work they have to do on themselves to change basically postpones the inevitable relapse. I sponsor a long line of people who try to pretty up everything but their spiritual condition... and I always seem to see them getting white chips or rip's on Facebook. Its whatever, but gear is hardly a healthy alternative to drugs and alcohol to a new person in recovery.
 
Maybe it should morph into an anti aas thread. Deprived of the chosen stimuli (drugs, alcohol) addicts and alcoholics rush to plan b. Pussy, aas, work, food- anything to blot out the reality of the situation and change the fact that they are still the exact same person who picked up in the first place- worse off due to substance abuse damage.

People are quick to cosign gear or girls or food since it is less destructive than dope, but anything that distracts an addict from the work they have to do on themselves to change basically postpones the inevitable relapse. I sponsor a long line of people who try to pretty up everything but their spiritual condition... and I always seem to see them getting white chips or rip's on Facebook. Its whatever, but gear is hardly a healthy alternative to drugs and alcohol to a new person in recovery.
I would never advise a newly sober person to run gear. Especially with the addictive and impulsive nature of an addictive type. Shit I had a lot of concerns with it myself after three sobers. I'm already pinning TRT and in the beginning just a needle alone scared me. Now I don't even think about it. Its just part of day to day routines.

If someone has enlarged upon their spiritual condition and enriched their life with recovery then AAS is hardly going to be a problem. The most dangerous part of it would be the keeping secrets part.

Everyone is different and there could definitely be a grounds for argument with my thinking. Its like @Roger rabbit told me when I made the decision to use AAS again it is very prolific in recovery circles and people will notice.

That being said I'm very open about my TRT, and my doctor runs me a tad higher than therapuetic. To the layman this is a perfectly logical explanation. That and I've put years of hard work and dedication in without AAS, and it is know that I'm dedicated to my lifestyle.

Does it make what I'm doing right? Probably not. Is it ok for other addicts/alcoholics to engage in this lifestyle without first having laid the groundwork of recovery? Probably a bad idea. Is this better than me using 3 grams of meth, a gram of heroin, and drinking a fifth of whiskey a day and dying in the gutters? Fuck yes it is.
 

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