Are domestic package seizures a big deal?

[Nuvo6]

I see some say it is. But I see sources downplay it

Is it a big deal?


The moderator on sst is downplaying it a lot.

https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/index.php?threads/source-synergy-forge.6626/

 

[Tiddy]

Dang missed that one. Time to read up

 

[Nuvo6]

Anyone?

 

[buck]

In over 20 years of getting packs i have had no issues. And from the probably at least 10's of thousands of posts i have seen on BB forums few talk of getting seizures especially with domestic orders.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

Depends entirely on local PD and if they care to follow up on it. Sometimes they do, sometimes they dont. Anyone saying otherwise is talking out their ass.

More than likely, they won't care, but it doesn't mean they couldn't.

 

[PaintDrinker]

Domestic packs only get seized under a few circumstances as a search warrant is required to open the pack.

1: leaking package, oil etc
2: OPSEC issues, typically investigation into the lab, shippers are being watched
3: if you’re a felon, there can be more eyes on your mail depending on your charges
4: if your under investigation for a crime

Besides these things, the pack will always land.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

law enforcement can definitely get a warrant, they have dedicated officers at many postal offices specifically to look for suspicious packages and get warrants on the spot quickly, as well as x-ray, dogs, density scanners. There's a lot more than just 'leaking package' that can be ascertained as suspicious.

Domestic packages will usually land, but this forum has some terrible assumptions about opsec.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Domestic packs only get seized under a few circumstances as a search warrant is required to open the pack.

1: leaking package, oil etc
2: OPSEC issues, typically investigation into the lab, shippers are being watched
3: if you’re a felon, there can be more eyes on your mail depending on your charges
4: if your under investigation for a crime

Besides these things, the pack will always land.

this is not true at all.

it is very possible to get a package seized. random packages, names, addresses, they dont like the way you look.

 

[PaintDrinker]

this is not true at all.

it is very possible to get a package seized. random packages, names, addresses, they dont like the way you look.

Never once seen or heard anything like that. How do you know this? Do you have any way to back what you’re actually saying? No offense

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Never once seen or heard anything like that. How do you know this? Do you have any way to back what you’re actually saying? No offense

lets say I have had it personally from one source. It was never made public, but 4 of the other users also experienced it.

If you have a package seized are you going to tell people you have something that says "held for mailability determination?" Go ahead and google it.

no one is going to announce it out of fear

 

[trtbuilder]

lets say I have had it personally from one source. It was never made public, but 4 of the other users also experienced it.

If you have a package seized are you going to tell people you have something that says "held for mailability determination?" Go ahead and google it.

no one is going to announce it out of fear

If it was 4 packages from one source, that sounds like they were being investigated.

 

[PaintDrinker]

If it was 4 packages from one source, that sounds like they were being investigated.

This is the context that matters when someone makes a comment like that.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

If it was 4 packages from one source, that sounds like they were being investigated.

Definitely weren't. They would have been busted my now.

If something is off one one package, they will seize whatever else has that same return address/in that bundle.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

Definitely weren't. They would have been busted my now.

If something is off one one package, they will seize whatever else has that same return address/in that bundle.

Not necessarily true at all. The departments that seize packages aren't always the same as the ones who end up handling the investigation. ie DHS seizes random packages, tells your local PD to investigate, DHS doesn't necessarily find future packs, local PD isn't looking at your mail but has their efforts focused elsewhere.

They often let packages through for part of the investigation as well. I know people who've had international packages stopped and had future packages not intercepted while local PD was watching them.

Investigations usually take more than a year, they don't usually have the resources to watch you 24/7 either so the 90% of the time you aren't being watched, you could be up to hella illegal shit that they don't see. They just watch you 10% of the time and see if something happens.

Lots of variables at play. But something consistent I've seen is that investigations take over a year, and often packages will keep coming though or they'll let them come through (either they let them, or miss them).

A lot of times they just drop investigations too and come back years later.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Not necessarily true at all. The departments that seize packages aren't always the same as the ones who end up handling the investigation. ie DHS seizes random packages, tells your local PD to investigate, DHS doesn't necessarily find future packs, local PD isn't looking at your mail but has their efforts focused elsewhere.

They often let packages through for part of the investigation as well. I know people who've had international packages stopped and had future packages not intercepted while local PD was watching them.

Investigations usually take more than a year, they don't usually have the resources to watch you 24/7 either so the 90% of the time you aren't being watched, you could be up to hella illegal shit that they don't see. They just watch you 10% of the time and see if something happens.

Lots of variables at play. But something consistent I've seen is that investigations take over a year, and often packages will keep coming though or they'll let them come through (either they let them, or miss them).

A lot of times they just drop investigations too and come back years later.

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I am discussing domestic packages. Even reddit confirms my statement of people having dumb packages held for inspection. When they open it, they realize it's nothing.

So if this is gonna do a eBay package just cause something looks weird. What you are suggesting is they are investing this video game nerd for a year?

I am not gonna really get into this anymore.

Do what y'all want, this is just a warning that shit does get seized domestically just with red flags of addresses, weird boxes, weird labels, etc.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

I'm just saying there's no rhyme or reason that they will or won't seize all packages if one gets seized, domestic or international. There are multiple law enforcement agencies at work with all of their own methods, checking different things, and often times just not checking things at all because they are stretched.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I'm just saying there's no rhyme or reason that they will or won't seize all packages if one gets seized, domestic or international. There are multiple law enforcement agencies at work with all of their own methods, checking different things, and often times just not checking things at all because they are stretched.

I am just talking about If one person ships 4 packages.

They may seize all four if something seems off when it gets to the distribution center. Return address seems off, packages seem off, etc

 

[PaintDrinker]

I am just talking about If one person ships 4 packages.

They may seize all four if something seems off when it gets to the distribution center. Return address seems off, packages seem off, etc

Jeez now I’m paranoid all over like when I first started

This thread has been a net positive. I learned something new, don’t get comfortable.

Note to self, learn to homebrew.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Jeez now I’m paranoid all over like when I first started

This thread has been a net positive. I learned something new, don’t get comfortable.

Note to self, learn to homebrew.

It's not likely they would seize regular people orders. It's good to be safe though.

A little paranoia is always good. Just don't order from fuckheads like hutech where people are openly complaining about seized domestic packages back to back.


Remember... there are housewives ordering glp drugs and unmarked vials now. People ordering hyaluronic acid, and kids ordering trest. You don't see much about those kids getting busted at bodybuilding gyms either.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

I'd just say if a package gets seized, consider the address burned and that you're on a list and being watched.

I don't think small amounts of anabolics are a big deal so maybe don't sweat it unless like, you're a felon or something. Then again, never getting in trouble is a lot better than a little bit of legal trouble.