If you do not you are being paranoid. I would not come on a board I do not have a clue about and set up shop. I am not going to hide the fact that I am a source either. My site is not even up right now. I am in process of combining with another source. BlackLabel Might be dead for good then again I might bring it back but not trying to sell until I get switched over. My stock is very low. I can handle a order here and there but that is about it right now. So no I did not come on here to set up shop. I was going to ask the process and see what it is all about. I was really more interested in placing banner ads after the massive restock I am about to do after lab results come back and the Chinese pull through. So stop being a blind bender and relax. I am not here to screw you over. I was here to learn. There is some good info on this board and I intend to use this site for every drop of info it has.
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If you do not you are being paranoid. I would not come on a board I do not have a clue about and set up shop. I am not going to hide the fact that I am a source either. My site is not even up right now. I am in process of combining with another source. BlackLabel Might be dead for good then again I might bring it back but not trying to sell until I get switched over. My stock is very low. I can handle a order here and there but that is about it right now. So no I did not come on here to set up shop. I was going to ask the process and see what it is all about. I was really more interested in placing banner ads after the massive restock I am about to do after lab results come back and the Chinese pull through. So stop being a blind bender and relax. I am not here to screw you over. I was here to learn. There is some good info on this board and I intend to use this site for every drop of info it has.
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What I see from this thread is me getting attacked by a pill pusher that ripped old people off for drugs, a guy that acts as if he knows anything about labs but denies all proof, and a couple others that want to be like them. You went from my labs being fake to my labs being wrong to my labs not being of value because they came from a source. The whole time saying I did nto give you labs. Then you say that the mods have sense and that is why I was banned. I thought Eroids was the devil and my mass specs where all wrong. What happened to that? I think you grasped at straws the whole time. trying to make me get on my knees like a bitch. I do not get on my knees for anyone. especially a fake lying fuck like yourself.
"All you have to do is tell them what compound they are looking for"!
So it that what Lance Armstrong did before they tested his piss DUMB ASS!
Your IGNORANCE is absolutely PROFOUND when it comes to the validity, and utility of MASS SPEC OR LC!
Damn you are stupid.
To ensure Meso members know just how limited your fund of knowledge is on this topic, and probably any other related science field, UNDERSTAND THIS, EVERY AAS has a KNOWN, well established and readily reproducible MASS SPECTROGRAPH?
Now although it's quite UNLIKELY, perhaps you now understand why providing the "unknown" to an investigational lab is the most idiotic step one can take unless they are BRAIN DEAD, Clown!
Shit fool, good ILs are supposed to be able to IDENTIFY UNKNOWNs, and provide their concentration if requested.
I mean damn fool that's the objective (at least in part) of any research, pharmaceutical, university, toxicological or investigative lab.
Moreover the ability of an IL to determine both the concentrations and identity of MULTIPLE unknowns within a SINGLE specimen, LIQUID or SOLID, is frequently used as a PRIMARY benchmark of that labs accuracy, reliability, quality and overall performance.
Yep you and Contagion are identical intellectual twins, you both were born stupid, yet learned to become the neurological equivalent of BRAIN DEAD thru our public school system,
The latter explains why your incapable of insight, rational or intellectual thought at ANY level, your both "functioning" on the most rudimentary of central neurological structures, the medullary brain stem!
However I'm thankful Eroids is considering revoking you current "banned" status.
No doubt Eroids is considering a reversal of your current banned status, because of your prior Eroids client support or happy AAS forum "lurkers" now ready to join Eroids yet only if PanMan is promptly reinstated!
We have witnessed the same phenom on Meso since your arrival PanMan, inundated with texts, threads, comments, posts all being complimentary of your business ethics, professionalism anders not overlook that "engaging personality".
LMAO!
So it that what Lance Armstrong did before they tested his piss DUMB ASS!
Your IGNORANCE is absolutely PROFOUND when it comes to the validity, and utility of MASS SPEC OR LC!
Damn you are stupid.
To ensure Meso members know just how limited your fund of knowledge is on this topic, and probably any other related science field, UNDERSTAND THIS, EVERY AAS has a KNOWN, well established and readily reproducible MASS SPECTROGRAPH?
Now although it's quite UNLIKELY, perhaps you now understand why providing the "unknown" to an investigational lab is the most idiotic step one can take unless they are BRAIN DEAD, Clown!
Shit fool, good ILs are supposed to be able to IDENTIFY UNKNOWNs, and provide their concentration if requested.
I mean damn fool that's the objective (at least in part) of any research, pharmaceutical, university, toxicological or investigative lab.
Moreover the ability of an IL to determine both the concentrations and identity of MULTIPLE unknowns within a SINGLE specimen, LIQUID or SOLID, is frequently used as a PRIMARY benchmark of that labs accuracy, reliability, quality and overall performance.
Yep you and Contagion are identical intellectual twins, you both were born stupid, yet learned to become the neurological equivalent of BRAIN DEAD thru our public school system,
The latter explains why your incapable of insight, rational or intellectual thought at ANY level, your both "functioning" on the most rudimentary of central neurological structures, the medullary brain stem!
However I'm thankful Eroids is considering revoking you current "banned" status.
No doubt Eroids is considering a reversal of your current banned status, because of your prior Eroids client support or happy AAS forum "lurkers" now ready to join Eroids yet only if PanMan is promptly reinstated!
We have witnessed the same phenom on Meso since your arrival PanMan, inundated with texts, threads, comments, posts all being complimentary of your business ethics, professionalism anders not overlook that "engaging personality".
LMAO!
YOUR the snake oil salesman Con--man. Everyone should know by now NONE of those "supplements" your selling have any proven efficacy whatsoever, period.
Especially al the Nitrous Oxide crap, which according to you is what we all need to cure that which ails us. GARBAGE, GARBAGE and more GARBAGE, that's the "BUNK" your selling and none of those "supplements" are legit.
Ergo look no further than yourself for those whom are "exploiting" others.
What BULLSHIT!
azazul
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ahh fuckit, I give up.
I tried helping you out a bit, I tried to help you see what you should do to survive here.
You wouldn't listen.
Like I said, you are here to make some money and obviously make yourself known as a source, the fact that you are not ready for the type of customer influx that would come once you try srcing here means nothing really.
The fact is you are here to make it known that you are a source.
You are not here to "learn" you can learn plenty without posting a single thing You are here to learn but you want everyone to know that you are/were an eroids as a source, and can get AAS for people if they pm you.
And you can get mass spec for people.
What am i missing?
You are here to learn or teach?
I'm very confused now.
Stop.
Hey have fun trying to dig out of the sand.
I believe Contagion's "autobiography" indicated that he attended Exeter before matriculating into Harvard and Brown simultaneously to pursue two separate degrees, following in the footsteps of The Greatest Man in the World.
You'll find it in the section immediately preceding his receipt of a section 8 from the U.S. Army Rangers (chef regiment) and the purchase of 5 acres of prime California real estate (beachfront).
Or they could just give you a graph full of #s and lines that most people would not have a clue what they mean. As far as me being reinstated at eroids. I seriously doubt that happens. There was some pretty big feeling hurt over there.
BigAngus
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Dr JIM said:
I'm not going to jump in this fight but I feel that some clarification on my part may help. Please also understand that I am not FinaFan's personal mass spec guy, I do lots of work for lots of people and the biggest reason I do it is to protect the end-user. I absolutely hate seeing people get burned or sick or worse. So if I can help someone avoid that, I feel like I have accomplished something good for someone.
That being said, let me move on to your question.......er......statement. We have the ability to isolate a compound and identify it without a problem, and you are correct sir, it is a benchmark of effectiveness in a lab setting. Unfortunately, isolating through the column testing and identifying the substance or substances can be time consuming and the cost of the labs goes up. So in an effort to keep the test affordable, so that people have reasonable access to it, we ask people to tell us what they think is in it.
Occasionally, when we run the test, we will find that the target compound is not present in the sample but we are able to determine a different compound is. This certainly helps the end user and I shake my head in disgust every time I see it because it has the very real potential to mess someone up badly.
Please if you have any questions I'd be happy to answer them. I understand how you feel about Finafan, but guilt by association doesn't suit me very well. I run tests, I report. That's it. I try to stay as far away from drama as I can. I'm too old to fight with people
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Agreed A the identification of an "unknown" can be very labor intensive and therefore expensive process.
However 99% of mates submitting a sample for study are searching for a "PED" AAS or GH almost exclusively,
I believe providing the lab with information such as; "I'm looking for an AAS" is more than adequate and adds next to nothing to time required for separate elutions or the search for parent ions during the dissociation process.
However generic GH is an entirely different matter because of the number of contaminants vary considerably and often range from ionic inorganics to multichain peptides (and occasionally GH) mandating several elutions and column fragmentations. The net effect can be a VERY tedious, challenging and very expensive as you are obviously aware!
IMO labs are no different than sources, they have an obligation to prove the are GTG and the best means of achieving that ends is for them to commit to the discovery of a particular AAS, FIRST and only then should the consumer do like wise!
Regards
Jim
However 99% of mates submitting a sample for study are searching for a "PED" AAS or GH almost exclusively,
I believe providing the lab with information such as; "I'm looking for an AAS" is more than adequate and adds next to nothing to time required for separate elutions or the search for parent ions during the dissociation process.
However generic GH is an entirely different matter because of the number of contaminants vary considerably and often range from ionic inorganics to multichain peptides (and occasionally GH) mandating several elutions and column fragmentations. The net effect can be a VERY tedious, challenging and very expensive as you are obviously aware!
IMO labs are no different than sources, they have an obligation to prove the are GTG and the best means of achieving that ends is for them to commit to the discovery of a particular AAS, FIRST and only then should the consumer do like wise!
Regards
Jim
BigAngus
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You're absolutely right in everything you said and I couldn't agree more. We don't need to know which compound it is but if the sample is labeled as AAS or peptide that is all we would need to ultimately find out. I ask people to tell me what they think is in it in order to preserve continuity and distinguish between samples. For example if a user sends in a Test C and a Test E with no label and no markings we can easily identify it and show purity plus concentration but how does the testee determine which is which? I have had some sources merely send me samples with a number on them and that is one way to keep track of them but there is much margin for error there. So I guess ease of use is the main factor there, but only after a relationship has been established. The HGH and IGF and other peptides actually go through a different process and use UHPLC with a column (as you indicated) which is why we would need to know which test to perform (also like you stated). I am going to try to attach a sample of one of those that was ran earlier this week. (I think I got it right, but I don't see it on this page........lemme know if it doesn't show up)
You are also right that a lab needs to prove itself. I'm not here to sell anything brother, I'm just here to help. Over the last couple of years we have been tested many times by different sources and users, and I encourage people to throw me a curveball. It proves integrity and allows people to develop a sense of trust that they can rely on the information contained in the report. By curveball I mean I encourage people to send a sample in and tell me it's Mast P or something when it's really Test E and they know it. We'll still be able to determine it's Test E and give the correct concentration and purity. Checks and balances, that is the best method in my opinion. I don't expect someone to give me trust, I want to earn it every day.
BigAngus
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I found a good example, This particular sample was sent in and they were under the impression it was Mast P......and while it did contain fragments of Mast P, it was more EQ than anything. So when the EQ peak showed up we analyzed it as well. We were able to determine that the analyte was only 1.5% of the total ion mass and the Bold U was 26%. This test saved someone's cycle. Mast P and EQ are very different animals with vastly different half lifes but the raw suppler that sent it to them either didn't know or didn't care. This is the kind of thing that brings me great satisfaction......knowing I'm a small part of protecting our fellow brothers and sisters.
Angus if you could, please post the name, model number, year of manufacture of the UPLC used for the "GH" analysis.
THX
JIM
THX
JIM
BigAngus
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FlimFlam, I see you posted under the right handle tonight. Decide to give TheJoker1980 the night off? LMFAO!
Funny. What did I saying under that name and is that pan man really panda something? I am cool with you talking shit but it would help if you would explain when you go totally off the reservation. Call me whatever but let me know what they said. Does not have to be word for word just brief summarization. Hard to enjoy the bull shit you spew if i am lost.
You fucked up last night and signed off as Fina. You know what I'm talking about.
You cunts are the thickest, dumbest bunch of retards i have ever seen, its stupid fucks like you who give steroids a bad name, fuck all of you fat cunts, you have not one brain between any of you, you dont even know how to run a sinple test/deca cycle, you are seriously the laughing stock of the internet, you fucking pathetic bunch of mutts, go kill your selves you unintelligable, brain dead junkies, fuck you all cunts. Yours truly, fina.
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lol. Thanks. I bet that guy is from UK. Now give me the info on the Pan Man.
