Are there any good generics from China right now?

[Don_Juan]

Angtropin has always been good quality. Ansemone is very good, Hygetropin is good. U can get all of these from official distributors. Ive been on Angtropin since May and I can tell without a doubt that its real and its potent.

Am I reading your posts correctly?? So all three are "good"? That's sure a blanket statement. There obviously have been Hygetropin fakes. You have been on Angtropins since may and you can "tell" that "its real and its potent." Really? Where are your bloods to back up your assertion? Your proof from tests done by others?

I am simply using supposition, deductive reasoning, and inference all of which tell me that there is a common source for all the generic brand-names of GH coming out of China. I think its very high quality and the source for all the legit blue tops, yellow tops, black tops and multi-colored vial lid "brands" of GH readily available in the US from China. Thank God this guy exists because there's simply no way that all these different types of GH are being independently produced.

"Who needs proof"? LOL. "simply using supposition, deductive reasoning, and inference" there must be a common source? Your reasoning is 'there are many generic brands so they must come from a common source'. How is that logical? Anyone can put starch or hcg or a peptide in a vial, label it, box it, open a website and sell it as "real" gh. Where there's money, there are scammers.

"I think its very high quality". Now that's convincing. There are so many fakes and generics of different color tops and many have been proven by tests to have little or no hgh in them. Look at the current GH Generic Assays from Dr. Jim. It doesn't appear they are all high quality or all similar. But I will take your word for it. LOL.

 

[Ed Plucker]

Am I reading your posts correctly?? So all three are "good"? That's sure a blanket statement. There obviously have been Hygetropin fakes. You have been on Angtropins since may and you can "tell" that "its real and its potent." Really? Where are your bloods to back up your assertion? Your proof from tests done by others?



"Who needs proof"? LOL. "simply using supposition, deductive reasoning, and inference" there must be a common source? Your reasoning is 'there are many generic brands so they must come from a common source'. How is that logical? Anyone can put starch or hcg or a peptide in a vial, label it, box it, open a website and sell it as "real" gh. Where there's money, there are scammers.

"I think its very high quality". Now that's convincing. There are so many fakes and generics of different color tops and many have been proven by tests to have little or no hgh in them. Look at the current GH Generic Assays from Dr. Jim. It doesn't appear they are all high quality or all similar. But I will take your word for it. LOL.

I am just trying to use some common sense about this bro. I know damn well that there are a lot of fake and counterfeit garbage out there but I trust my source and I also know what hGH does to me and there is absolutely no difference between the Angs Im now using and the Humatrope and Serostim I have used in the past. This is exactly why once I found a good brand that I like I have stuck with it. Bottom line if u trust ur source u should be good. I haven't heard anything but rave reviews for Angtropin. Eventually someone is going to start counterfeiting it and the good thing is that there is a lot of legit hGH out there. I know what hGH does to me so if I don't get those effects I won't use it. I don't need blood work to tell me the hGH Im using is legit. I am planning to have a full blood panel next month because Im going out to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale and I want them to test everything. I will post my results once I get them. I plan to shoot 8iu of Angtropin about 3 hours before pulling blood. That should give me a good read on serum GH and IGF-1 levels. If the levels aren't where they should be then its time for Norditropin or Ansemone or something that u can walk into a pharmacy and buy. UGL stuff has proven time and time again to be superior to pharma-grade AAS and hGH. A UGL lab that capitalizes the right equipment and has the right techs working for them should be able to produce recombinant-DNA hGH. Its really not rocket science. U use rDNA technology, a group of techniques that isolate genes (specific pieces of DNA), attach them to other pieces of DNA and transfer the newly combined genetic material to another species such as eColi bacteria.
Genes like the one for HGH contain coded instructions for protein production. Inside cells, this information is first re-coded from DNA, which provides long-term information storage, to a messenger RNA (mRNA) molecule, which provides specific instructions for HGH protein production. Scientists begin by taking pituitary gland tissue and isolating the mRNA encoded by the HGH gene. Next, they used the mRNA as a template to create complementary DNA (cDNA). This DNA contains the coded instructions for making the HGH protein.
After scientists create the cDNA, they add it to a plasmid, a small loop of DNA taken from a bacterial cell. Next, they insert the plasmid into bacteria. When the bacteria are grown in culture, the cells use the transferred HGH gene to produce and isolate HGH much more quickly and with less effort and expense than was possible with human pituitary gland tissue. And, because the protein is produced by bacteria, contamination by components of cadaver tissue is not possible. Once this technology was developed it doesn't take a brain surgeon to reverse engineer the process. This is what the Chinese are so good at. They can't innovate for shit but they can steal and copy other people's work like fiends.

 

[adam brown]

talking to a friend today he put me on To a company in China that he assures me is the best source for Chinese hgh. In fact I think it's where all the brands are coming from. They basically take custom orders and will make you hgh in your choice of vials stoppers and caps. think that's a great choice for domestic sources who want to make there own lines and not have to recap or relabel causing the vacuum to be lost from the vial and degradation to happen faster.

I will share this if it turns out to be all my friend sais it is. Usually if he sais it, that means it's true.

You never know how many factories there in China that produce these generic hgh, i've always been ordering angtropin hgh from a source who is located in China, and he is really an honesty man, he told me that there is no real hygetropin and jintropin in the market, and he also said many of his customers from USA UK just order the generic hgh in bulk and they will resell it in UK USA with different labels, boxes, this is so called pharm grade hgh, so guys, don't be so sure about pharm grade hgh, cause the price is much more higher but the quality is just the same with those Chinese generic hgh.

 

[Don_Juan]

UGL stuff has proven time and time again to be superior to pharma-grade AAS and hGH. A UGL lab that capitalizes the right equipment and has the right techs working for them should be able to produce recombinant-DNA hGH. Its really not rocket science.

Really? UGL is superior to pharm? Tests show how much fake or under-dosed gear is out there. Maybe not a rocket scientist but it takes millions for a lab to produce hgh. That's not really in reach for the majority of UGLs. So what do theses UGLs turn to for gh? Peptides, Glycine, etc.

 

[Don_Juan]

don't be so sure about pharm grade hgh, cause the price is much more higher but the quality is just the same with those Chinese generic hgh.

Pharm grade as in US manufactured? There are fakes of US hgh. US pharma is hard to get. But if you're saying a Chinese generic has the same quality as an actual US pharm, then no, not the same quality.

 

[Ed Plucker]

Pharm grade as in US manufactured? There are fakes of US hgh. US pharma is hard to get. But if you're saying a Chinese generic has the same quality as an actual US pharm, then no, not the same quality.

Why the fuck not? Its made until stricp GMP guidelines, Chinese GMP is like US FDA. So when u buy Ansemone, or Hygetropin, or Jintropin, or Angtropin ur getting real 191AA GH that is identical to the somatropin that ur body produces. How can it possibly be inferior?

 

[Don_Juan]

Why the fuck not? Its made until stricp GMP guidelines, Chinese GMP is like US FDA. So when u buy Ansemone, or Hygetropin, or Jintropin, or Angtropin ur getting real 191AA GH that is identical to the somatropin that ur body produces. How can it possibly be inferior?

The problems is KNOWING what you're actually buying. Ok. Let's clarify: in China pharma hgh would be GMP certified. Generic could be defined as non-GMP certified. Counterfeit or fake would be unknown. Do you know which hgh is actually manufactured at GMP certified labs? If so, give me a list. How do you know what you bought is that actual product? By a security code you enter on their website? LOL. If it's non-GMP certified, then how do you know what you're really getting? How do you actually know how it was manufactured. Like you said, the Chinese are very good at copying ... it' not hard to print out counterfeit labels and boxes, especially when profit is involved. I understand the GMP standard for hgh is for only 8 iu vials. If Angtropin comes in 10 iu vials, doesn't that mean it doesn't meet GMP standards?

 

[Ed Plucker]

The problems is KNOWING what you're actually buying. Ok. Let's clarify: in China pharma hgh would be GMP certified. Generic could be defined as non-GMP certified. Counterfeit or fake would be unknown. Do you know which hgh is actually manufactured at GMP certified labs? If so, give me a list. How do you know what you bought is that actual product? By a security code you enter on their website? LOL. If it's non-GMP certified, then how do you know what you're really getting? How do you actually know how it was manufactured. Like you said, the Chinese are very good at copying ... it' not hard to print out counterfeit labels and boxes, especially when profit is involved. I understand the GMP standard for hgh is for only 8 iu vials. If Angtropin comes in 10 iu vials, doesn't that mean it doesn't meet GMP standards?

Because of the effects that I am personally getting and so have so many other bros who think Angtropin is the shit. U can't fool everyone all the time. They clearly have the capability to produce GH using clandestine labs but who gives a shit whether it GMP or not if they r producing real 191-AA somatropin that is identical to what ur body makes?
Besides I have also ordered and used several kits of Ansomone direct from Anke Bio and those r GMP-certified and they are about as strong as Angtropin maybe a bit less because they r overdosed.

 

[Blkhrt]

Angtropin has always been good quality. Ansemone is very good, Hygetropin is good. U can get all of these from official distributors. Ive been on Angtropin since May and I can tell without a doubt that its real and its potent. Its just as good as Humatrope or Norditropin. I used to only use Serostim and was paying around $600-800 for 126iu. U can buy 100iu of Angtropin for less than $300.

I don't think angetropin is a legitimate pharmaceutical brand anywhere in the world (if I'm wrong plz send me a link to their pharma company webpage so for you to claim it is legit and on par with a fda approved seronono product without any sort of testing or proof other than you saying so is suspect....

 

[Blkhrt]

talking to a friend today he put me on To a company in China that he assures me is the best source for Chinese hgh. In fact I think it's where all the brands are coming from. They basically take custom orders and will make you hgh in your choice of vials stoppers and caps. think that's a great choice for domestic sources who want to make there own lines and not have to recap or relabel causing the vacuum to be lost from the vial and degradation to happen faster.

I will share this if it turns out to be all my friend sais it is. Usually if he sais it, that means it's true.

Oh your friend*assures* you that his Chinese gh source is the best? Well he must be right, he's your friend after all. Friends are never wrong.

The reality is unless you got a pharma hookup or get lab analysis done on every batch you get you're pissin in the wind. I'm not saying don't use Chinese GH but Im saying it's stupid saying things like "oh my buddy ASSures me it's legit". Come on, don't be dumb. Everyone here should know better than to blindly accept reccomendations without any shred of evidence of any kind.

 

[Ed Plucker]

I don't think angetropin is a legitimate pharmaceutical brand anywhere in the world (if I'm wrong plz send me a link to their pharma company webpage so for you to claim it is legit and on par with a fda approved seronono product without any sort of testing or proof other than you saying so is suspect....

I know that is not a regisered brand of hGH. But they do have a website:

Verify Your Angtropin -

This doesn't really tell me much other than I bought a kit of GH that matches the numbers which of course doesn't prove anything. The fact is that since were not dealing with OTC shit here we have to be able to trust our sources. I trust mine completely because he has never sold me anything suspect in over 5 years. All I can say is that I have used Serostim, i have used Humatrope, and I have used Nutropin AQ and the Angtropin is as good or better than any of them.

 

[Rick Kane]

All I can say is that I have used Serostim, i have used Humatrope, and I have used Nutropin AQ and the Angtropin is as good or better than any of them.

ChAngs better than pharma, lol.
What you meant to say was, "I got tired of getting burned on bunk pharma gh and decided to settle for chAngtropin ".

 

[Ed Plucker]

ChAngs better than pharma, lol.
What you meant to say was, "I got tired of getting burned on bunk pharma gh and decided to settle for chAngtropin ".

Ok whatever u say bro. I have used all kinds of GH and real GH has predictable effects and sides all of which I am getting.