Sworder
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I hope you think you are funny, to me you are an annoying side-show that can't contribute any complex ideas beside "Hurr Durr 'Merica the free, hate Muslim terrorists."
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Are you ok with Muslim refugees moving in next to you in the US?
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xy5jn0
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You are putting words in my mouth. I reposted your words on nuking countries that bomb us. Please repost where I mention anything about the KKK or someone yelling Allah.
xy5jn0
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I take great pride that I annoyed you. It was my goal. Thank you.
xy5jn0
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Again you are narrowing what you said. You never said ISIS. You specifically stated "countries." Now if you want to admit your statement is not a tenable solution maybe we can continue. Otherwise it's you that sounds foolish.
No single males, unless they are gay...
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/dont-reject-lone-male-refugees-ndp-cautions
Gay men will be among the Syrian refugees the government is willing to bring to Canada under a plan that will otherwise welcome primarily women, children and families.
Security concerns over extremists potentially slipping in to Canada mean the Liberal government will likely exclude unaccompanied males from its planned resettlement of thousands of refugees.
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/dont-reject-lone-male-refugees-ndp-cautions
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/dont-reject-lone-male-refugees-ndp-cautions
Gay men will be among the Syrian refugees the government is willing to bring to Canada under a plan that will otherwise welcome primarily women, children and families.
Security concerns over extremists potentially slipping in to Canada mean the Liberal government will likely exclude unaccompanied males from its planned resettlement of thousands of refugees.
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/dont-reject-lone-male-refugees-ndp-cautions
U.S. Officials Can’t Ask Syrian Refugees Key Questions
The Obama administration appears to have taken yet another terrorism-fighting tool away from U.S. law enforcement trying to screen Syrian refugees.
NOVEMBER 23, 2015 By Kyle Shideler
U.S. law enforcement officials involved in screening Syrian refugees are forbidden from asking key questions about individuals’ religious affiliations or beliefs based on policy guidance created by the Obama administration, according to a recent report published at The Daily Caller.
The piece notes that both Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) policies have increasingly restricted the ability of law enforcement to query individuals about their religious behaviors or associations.
“These gradual but severe restrictions were coupled with a simultaneous reduction in accurate, fact-based training to address the nature of the threat we face, leaving us inadequately prepared for the challenges we face today,” The Daily Caller cites a “government source familiar with national security” as saying.
That means DHS officers screening for Syrian refugees are likely prohibited from asking questions like, “Are you a member or supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood or Tablighi Jamaat?”
These Are Dangerous Buddies to Have
The Muslim Brotherhood is the oldest global Islamist group in the world. Muslim Brotherhood thinkers formed the core ideology of al-Qaeda, and former FBI Director Robert Mueller testified in 2011 that “elements of the Muslim Brotherhood both here and overseas have supported terrorism.” Tablighi Jamaat is an Islamic proselyting group that al-Qaeda has used as a cover to facilitate moving across borders, and which U.S. intelligence has described as “willingly supporting terrorists.”
A 2005 report on the Pakistan-based group:
Tablighi Jamaat has also facilitated other terrorists’ missions. The group has provided logistical support and helped procure travel documents. Many take advantage of Tablighi Jamaat’s benign reputation. Moroccan authorities say that leaflets circulated by the terrorist group Al-Salafiyah al-Jihadiyah urged their members to join Islamic organizations that operate openly, such as Tablighi Jamaat, in order ‘to hide their identity on the one hand and influence these groups and their policies on the other.’
It would also prohibit law enforcement from asking key questions about how an individual views jihadist ideologues, such as Anwar Awlaki, Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi, or Yusuf al Qaradawi. That’s vital when such jihadi scholars have played roles in influencing terror attacks.
For example, support and admiration for Awlaki was key to terror cases including the Christmas Day underwear bomber, the Fort Hood shooter, the Charlie Hebdo killers, and the more recent Chattanooga Recruiting Center shooter.
Yet during an investigation into Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hassan before his attack, the FBI described email correspondence from Hassan to Awlaki as “not pertinent” to the investigation.
Islamist Sympathizers Place Pressure
In 2011, the Civil Rights Civil Liberties division of DHS launched an investigation into multiple Customs and Border Protection agents, because of complaints by groups like Hamas-linked Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) that agents were asking individuals questions about their affiliation with Islamic organizations (including those linked to the Muslim Brotherhood), or attendance at conferences where pro-jihadist ideologues are known to have spoken.
According to DHS authorities, one officer was being investigated because he had asked for an individual’s view of Anwar al-Awlaki. In another, FBI agents referenced the underwear bombing plot. Even that much was considered offensive.
The CRCL investigation was motivated by pressure from the American Civil Liberties Union, CAIR, and Muslim Advocates, a group closely linked with U.S. Muslim Brotherhood groups and with a long history of opposing U.S. counterterrorism efforts.
In response to lawsuits related to the issue of questioning by CBP officers, the DHS established a “hands-off” list of known individuals with terror ties, which included Muslim Brotherhood leader Jamal Badawi, an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas finance trial. These individuals were given a green light to enter the country, and were not to be referred to secondary questioning. Sen. Chuck Grassley investigated the matter in 2014, calling it “disturbing.”
If U.S. law enforcement agents are no longer able to question individuals who are already known to have terror affiliations about their ideological views or the organizations with which they associate, how much more pressure will there be to avoid pertinent questions to Syrian refugees, a hot-button issue upon which the Obama administration has taken a strong public position?
Sworder
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Lol they are aware that "religion" and terror don't go hand and hand
bull_dozer
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This thread is religion and politics all in one. No good.
Lol they are aware that "religion" and terror don't go hand and hand
who is aware?
but yeah, just ask them if there "terrorists".
although, they might get offended because not all muslims are "terrorists".
then again, not all "terrorists" see themselves that way.
Sworder
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US government, I was quoting cbs post.
xy5jn0
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At the moment all terrorists identify as muslims. So it's reasonable to look where muslims are.
The KKK and JDL identify as Muslim?
xy5jn0
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Very good. Let me rephrase that. Almost every terrorist blowing themselves up, burning people alive, drowning people in cages, beheading people, tying people up and slowly roasting them over a fire, etc, etc, identify as muslims. Therefore to find them you should look where muslims are.
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Sworder
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-mu...0-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619
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Terrorism Is a Real Threat … But the Threat to the U.S. from Muslim Terrorists Has Been Exaggerated
An FBI report shows that only a small percentage of terrorist attacks carried out on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 were perpetrated by Muslims."
Older article from 2013.
I guess it doesn't account for this huge influx of imaginary Muslim terrorism?! Has it become a new trend or something like that?
"
Terrorism Is a Real Threat … But the Threat to the U.S. from Muslim Terrorists Has Been Exaggerated
An FBI report shows that only a small percentage of terrorist attacks carried out on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 were perpetrated by Muslims."
Older article from 2013.
I guess it doesn't account for this huge influx of imaginary Muslim terrorism?! Has it become a new trend or something like that?
Sworder
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Are they better identified as psychopathic extremists or Muslims? I would say the former.
xy5jn0
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Not relevant. Especially in today's liberal world where it doesn't matter what you are, only what you "identify" as.
Sworder
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It's not relevant because?
You are implying that Islam has something to do with these psychopaths.. As if that is the root cause..
xy5jn0
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I'd say it's not relevant because you said it, but that would be to easy. And I didn't imply that. I merely pointed out a fact. You're worthless to argue with. You're not able to coherently debate.
xy5jn0
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The article might be from 2013. But the data is from 1980-2005. Again, no relevance to the current situation.
Sworder
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"Since 9/11, [Charles Kurzman, Professor of Sociology at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, writing for the Triangle Center on Terrorism and National Security] and his team tallies, 33 Americans have died as a result of terrorism launched by their Muslim neighbors. During that period, 180,000 Americans were murdered for reasons unrelated to terrorism. In just the past year, the mass shootings that have captivated America’s attention killed 66 Americans, “twice as many fatalities as from Muslim-American terrorism in all 11 years since 9/11,” notes Kurzman’s team."
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