Sworder
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I don't have a problem with it being reported, I just don't see how it is relevant to the crime. Do you feel Christianity has something to do with the KKK's crimes? If Christianity didn't exist would there be no KKK?
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xy5jn0
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What do you suggest they report? Should it read "Unfortunately 14 people died in San Bernadino" and that's it?
Sworder
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Well, is there anything else to it? You tell me, what does it matter? And you seem to deviate in your thoughts about religion and crime. If a person is Christian, I think we could agree Christianity isn't to blame.
They killed some of the man's co-workers. He was a psychopath, that's the classification I would use. Him being born in America or his brother being in the Navy, to me, seems irrelevant to the murders same his religion. He and his wife left a baby and went on a shooting spree. They were mentally disturbed.
Motive? None, at the moment? Even if it was to kill "infidels," is that correlated directly to the traditional sense of the Islamic religion? Was he merely "practicing" his Islamic faith?
Does the 1.3 Billion Islamic followers practice their religion by killing "infidels?"
Is it honorable among the Islam religion to kill "infidels?"
Are they "jihadist" considered of a higher statue because they kill "infidels?"
And not all Muslims are the same, there are 1.3 billion in different countries which have different values. I feel like you have a lack of understanding of Muslims, get more information or have some Muslim friends and if your opinion later is the same stick by it. I have a lot and have had a lot of Muslim friends and none talked about Jihad. Not saying that is representative of all Muslims neither, every PERSON is different and a person can be a psycho or friendly. Maybe all your encounters of Muslims have been them pointing a gun at you and that's why you have formed that opinion, and maybe the Muslims I have known have been against shooting infidels and that's why I have the opinion I have. But I am open to other opinions as well. In this case, I don't see how everybody thinking it is representative of all or most Muslims(I believe that is being implied by the media) that they are terrorists and jihadist. I don't agree with that. I think you can find extremists and killers from all religious backgrounds and that the religion isn't the problem. It's the psychopathic person...
And also, why is Obama's potential Muslim religion a problem? I am assuming it is CBS notion of "their religion is to kill infidels" but, if we as a society truly believe that. Why in the hell is there even ONE Muslim in this country? If America has this understanding that Muslims are bad. Let's vote to kick them all out! They are terrorists right? No, that won't happen. Because it is extremely idiotic and somewhere in the back of thinking Americans' brain they know it is too outlandish to implement. So instead we have this "grudge" against Muslims and want to point the finger at the minority when somebody from that religion commits a crime. But when a Muslim does something good, then it isn't brought forth that they are Muslim. Positive angles of Muslims is frowned upon. IMO!
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xy5jn0
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I can't argue with you. You simply can't grasp basic facts (unless it has to do with white Christians).
Sworder
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Basic facts about?
There are some Muslims that kill people? Yes, I agree. Muslims don't approve of that, generally speaking.
There are some Christians that kill people. Yes, I agree. Christians don't approve of that, generally speaking.
Yes, there are passages in the Quaran that can be interpreted as violent.
Yes, there are passages in the Bible that can be interpreted as violent.
Yes, there has been violence used to spread Islam.
Yes, there has been violence used to spread Christianity.
So... What's the difference?
Do you think the Christian faith approves of the violence used in the past or present?
Do you think the Islamic faith approves of the violence used in the past or present?
You are not congruent with how you place blame on religion.
Again, there are 1.3 Billion Muslims, do you not think that the "war" on "infidels" would be more abundant in the news if there actually was a war against infidels?
It's not always about what you do read and see in the news, it's also about what you don't see and read.
Amazing serious of photos taken in Afghanistan and Iran in the 60s and 70s, giving a glimpse of what life was like before those nations fell under the rule of retrograde Islamic lunatics:
Lost in Time: Groovy Afghanistan
http://m.atchuup.com/iran-in-the-1960s-and-1970s/ (Rare Look At Iran in the 1960s and 1970s (35 Pics) - Atchuup! - Cool Stuff, Pass It On)
Lost in Time: Groovy Afghanistan
http://m.atchuup.com/iran-in-the-1960s-and-1970s/ (Rare Look At Iran in the 1960s and 1970s (35 Pics) - Atchuup! - Cool Stuff, Pass It On)
Inquiry Into Paris Terror Attacks Widens to Eastern Europe
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/w...ns-to-eastern-europe.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
At a news conference on Thursday in Budapest, the chief of staff of Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary said that Mr. Abdeslam had recruited a team of Paris attackers from unregistered migrants traveling through Hungary. He did not identify them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/w...ns-to-eastern-europe.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
At a news conference on Thursday in Budapest, the chief of staff of Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary said that Mr. Abdeslam had recruited a team of Paris attackers from unregistered migrants traveling through Hungary. He did not identify them.
Sworder
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So Afghanistan and Iran's streets are full of jihadists now?.... Running around with AK 47s and rocket launchers? Cbs you really are fucking stupid man...
And yet again, Sworder COMPLETELY misses the point!
Sworder, you never fail to disappoint.
Sworder
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Please do tell the point you fucking retard. The point is that Islam turned the countries into a war-zone is it not? You don't say what your point is as you imply your inbred white-trash stupidity. Fuck, are you not embarrassed?
Nope, I'm not here to educate mental defectives like you, Sworder. Keep making a fool out of yourself, though. Everyone is having a real good laugh at your expense. LMFAO
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Sworder
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Islam has been the main religion in Iran and Afghanistan since the 7th century. So what is your point?
Amazing serious of photos taken in Afghanistan and Iran in the 60s and 70s, giving a glimpse of what life was like before those nations fell under the rule of retrograde Islamic lunatics:
Lost in Time: Groovy Afghanistan
http://m.atchuup.com/iran-in-the-1960s-and-1970s/ (Rare Look At Iran in the 1960s and 1970s (35 Pics) - Atchuup! - Cool Stuff, Pass It On)
Nice try my parents lived there in that time...The reason for the fall of Afghanistan was the communist invasion...Not Retrograde Muslims lol. There were many old school Muslims at that time and yes some women did walk around without scarves (they do that now too??? People minded their own business), anyway i dont see how half naked women means it was better lmao. What point are you tryna get across? That it would be better if they have all their women dress half naked or not wear hijabs? Anyway, the reason women cover up so damn much now (completely head to toe) is because of rape and sexual harrassment. You think cops and govt are the good guys in afghanistan hahah. Whos gonna protect women from being abused? Its probably one of the most corrupt countries in the world right now. Remember what the Army told its soldiers a few months ago? To not intervene in rape caused by ALLIED afghans? So what are the women suppose to do? You want them to showoff their bodies to these sick people? The fall of Afghanistan was because of the corrupt, overpowered govt that abuses their citizens rights. My dad said the president of Afghanistan back in the day could walk around the city/markets without bodyguards and be fine. No enemies or anything. And isnt Iran the exact samething now as it was back in the day?
No, the reason Afgastanistan is a shithole is because Islamic wackjobs have been calling the shots for a long time.
Idiot.
IOW, it's because Muslim males behave like savages.
Not people like you, that's for sure. Forcing women to wear a body bag IS abuse.
No shit. Wherever Islamic rule spreads, backwardness and savagery follow.
Get real.
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You didnt point out one logical explanation. "Muslim males behave like savages" Wheres your study that proves 100% of muslim males behave like savages? Oh thats right you DONT HAVE ONE. Im a muslim male i dont behave like a savage. And people like me force them to wear body bags? You want me to screen shot a text to my wife right now tellin her to take off her hijab? It was once 110° here n i told her not to wear her black robe and she said no. Why you wanna check out girls so badly??? Youre a savage who probably looks at females like they are sex objects and refers to them as bitches. Also, my parents lived there you moron!!!! Primary sources....you have none. Im afghan, i had a friend who went to afghanistan recently to stay there for a bit and he says the guys arent even muslim anymore lol. Just because you are born a Muslim doesnt mean you act Muslim... I know plenty of Muslims that have premarital sex, dont pray, eat pork, drink alcohol and do many other things. Would you call them muslim? They are only muslim by name. If anything, Islam has declined even more in Afghanistan now.
Did I say "100% of Muslim males?"
They're forced and so is your wife. She was raised in a culture that made her feel shame for not being covered. Whether they hide behind a bed sheet because they're physically threatened by men or it's from psychological abuse or Stockholm Syndrome or whatever - it's all coercion; it's about controlling women because they're seen as chattel.
There's that backwards attitude. You simply cannot conceive of any other reason that would explain why I detest the act of forcing and shaming women to cover themselves, than I just want to check them out and refer to them as bitches.
Your statement speaks volumes.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
I'd call them apostates and so would you.
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Wtf. The women arent forced idiot. And most guys Muslim or Non-Muslim want a women thats covered up!!!! Cry all you want, any guy who really loves his women doesnt want her to show off her body to every other guy so those other men can check them out as sex objects. If you dont believe me ask guys on this forum who have wives that arent muslim. Ive heard it so many times from non muslims at school or at the gym. No real man wants his wife to be everyones eye candy. What does a women gain from showong off her tits and ass to everyone else?? Besides guys whispering to each other "check out that bitches ass" or the most famous one i always hear "damn that bitch is bad." My friend recently broke up with his girlfriend because she refused to cover up herself. Come on guys let me hear your opinions on here, would you rather have a women that shows off her body to everyone? Or would you rather have a girl that covers up and shows herself only to you? Islam teaches a woman to be modest, nothing wrong with that.
So only your ideology is right and anyone else with other views is wrong? Why are all high class women and women in power covered up? The Queen? The first lady? Look at all the pictures of the Virgin Mary? Because they dont want to be seen as sex objects...
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