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Astro Labs Genotropin - GH Serum/IGF-1 2015-05

bigboichoi said:
Are you still using the cartridges? What are your igf1 levels now?

The reason I'm asking is that I've used his pens for 2 months about 6 months back and I haven't felt the same since. About 5 weeks in I started having severe joint pain and lethargy/brain fog. My dose was 7iu a day. I stopped using it and felt a bit better but like I said before I'm still not the same although I am continuing to get better. What's bothering me the most is the brain fog and I have an mri coming up to see what's going on.

Now earlier someone said that his gh came from syntholan, and was confirmed to be bunk. So I did some research on syntholan and he manufactures his products from Belgium. If these cartridges are confirmed to be fake, god knows what he put in them. Apparently, in some countries outside of the us the gh is still being taken from pituitary cadavers and using this gh carries the risk of getting Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease and one of the early symptoms of this disease is brain fog. It's how Lyle Alzado died. This really scares me.
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I don't think the GH is the issue. I've not had any issues. Testing igf here shortly.
 
Colt44 said:
I know this is a little late but I have been meaning to run these tests on these Genos for a while. Just got around to it. Not sure when they were purchased but a buddy sent them to me and I said I would test them. So here it is. Obviously, I know GH serum testing isn't the best way to test legitimacy of the product but the results were going to dictate whether I run them at all and retest IGF-1 levels. With the results, I feel comfortable spending the time and money testing again. Will follow up in a couple months.

This should benefit those that might be holding the product in the "Limbo" pile I know we all have :) If not, we can always use more testing data!


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Blood was drawn 3 hours 8 mins post injection of 10iu in left delt.
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What's your HGH protocols? Curious
 
Alright guys, as promised. I was running "6iu" to account for a 50% concentration, as Jim had reported to me. So using those figures, I was pinning 3iu a day and tested on the 28th day around 4:20 pm.

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Friday was the last day I pinned, as my hands, wrists, elbows, ok just every joint in my body was hurting. Going to start back up mid-week on maybe 1/2 to 1iu. I wasn't planning for those numbers post spinal surgery.
 
How long did you run it before the joint pain started? I think the gh was what caused my joint pain but in my case it is still there even though I've stopped for 9 months.
 
A super high responder? I'm not sure what that is exactly but there is NO DOUBT people produce IGF at different rates in response to GH supplementation.

To that end, in order to KNOW at what rate an individual patient produces IGF in response to GH, REQUIRES periodic IGF assays over a period of MONTHS.

Well at least that's how it's done in the medical field but in "bro
science" conjecture works just as well, IME.

Nonetheless when patients develop arthralgias to Pharm GH the recommendation is to DECREASE the dose.

Of course there are those who believe 3IU of PHARM GH will not cause such symptoms, but they are WRONG! (

(Heck I developed similar symptoms at ONE IU of Humatrope)
 
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Dr JIM said:
A super high responder? I'm not sure what that is exactly but there is NO DOUBT people produce IGF at different rates in response to GH supplementation.

Nonetheless when patients develop arthralgias to Pharm GH the recommendation is to DECREASE the dose.

Of course there are those who believe 3IU of PHARM GH will not cause such symptoms, but they are WRONG!
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Not sure what it is either Jim, as I was being a smartass to the "low repsonder" comments that usually follow unfavorable test results.

Obviously the course of action when those symptoms are exhibited is to lower the administered dose. Hence the reason I discontinued altogether. I ran the dose that high for that duration for testing purposes.

I am going to run Seros under the same protocol and test under the exact conditions to see the variance. That is unless I develop the same symptoms. In that case I will discontinue. Any sort of info the testing will provide is not worth a risk to my overall health.
 
Heck some folk can not tolerate GH at all (and I'm one of them) but perhaps you need to follow the Sero package insert dosing recommendations mate in which ONE IU is reached after roughly ONE MONTH of use.

The problem, few BB are that patient and use some UGL recommendations (or start off with their "goal dose") and wonder why such symptoms occur.
 
Colt44 said:
Friday was the last day I pinned, as my hands, wrists, elbows, ok just every joint in my body was hurting. Going to start back up mid-week on maybe 1/2 to 1iu. I wasn't planning for those numbers post spinal surgery.
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Dr JIM said:
Heck some folk can not tolerate GH at all (and I'm one of them) but perhaps you need to follow the Sero package insert dosing recommendations mate in which ONE IU is reached after roughly ONE MONTH of use.

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