So you were comfortable getting it mailed but not comfortable sending it back so he can test it and get to the bottom of it? Sorry but im confused on why you would be uncomfortable putting a "friends" name on the return address and dropping it in a box, their is no "threat" to your "comfort" in that. Ive never returned something to the store with just a receipt and not the product youre trying to get replaced, just saying.
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So you were comfortable getting it mailed but not comfortable sending it back so he can test it and get to the bottom of it? Sorry but im confused on why you would be uncomfortable putting a "friends" name on the return address and dropping it in a box, their is no "threat" to your "comfort" in that. Ive never returned something to the store with just a receipt and not the product youre trying to get replaced, just saying.
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Dogmeat- sorry I can't quote from my phone. Anyways I read somewhere that taking HCG a day or so prior to bloodwork effected the results. Something about it was picking up the HCG instead of free test. I will find the article when I get a minute to do a search.
Dogmeat
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Probably not the best analogy I've ever heard, but it doesn't really matter. I said I'd send it back if the consensus leaned in that direction, whether I was comfortable with it or not.
Dogmeat
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That's interesting and I'd appreciate the info. What would be the protocol for getting lab work done if HCG has the possibility of negatively affecting the results?
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Trying to dig it up. I run HCG on cycle and it didn't effect my results in the past so it might be hit or miss. Also if you estrogen levels are high it can effect test levels. Being it's cyp might be best to test again at the 10 week point if you are that concerned.
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I certainly do understand Astro wanting to test it, and I think it is cool that he wants to get to the bottom of it (I would want to as well if I were Astro).
But there definitely IS some risk on Dogmeat's part if we are expecting him to drive around with schedule 3 drugs in his car (felony) even if it is only 3 blocks away where he is dropping them off at.
That is an unnecessary risk that we are just expecting him to take. Would most of us do it? Probably. But Dogmeat is uncomfortable with it, so he shouldn't.
Rick Collins, esq, famous 'steroid attorney' has written some very interesting articles on this topic. He has stated that many of his clients were busted during routine traffic stops, or accident investigations, where AAS were found in the vehicle. His advice? NEVER have AAS in your possession when driving anywhere.
For anyone interested in reading more about this:
Steroidlaw.com | Bridging the gap between the muscle world and the justice community
Oh, and any analogy that attempts to draw comparisons between retailers and drug dealers is the ultimate 'apples to oranges'. I have been guilty of it before, too, but comparing returning a leaf rake at Lowe's to committing multiple felonies by mailing drugs to someone (possession, using the USPS for drug transactions, etc) is a tough comparison to make, my friend.
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I've actually heard the same thing and it was just brought to my attention. I'm not saying it cant happen but my supplier has been consistent since day one. I'm going to contact the guys that previously ran mass specs for me and I'm going to test some more products.
Run some more blood work without the hcg before the test so we can get results that aren't possibly effected by the hcg.
Also any Respected member who would run bloods on the same exact batch PM me. I'll send enough vials to run a cycle and pay for the blood work.
Run some more blood work without the hcg before the test so we can get results that aren't possibly effected by the hcg.
Also any Respected member who would run bloods on the same exact batch PM me. I'll send enough vials to run a cycle and pay for the blood work.
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I am currently running Astros test cyp too @ 500mg a week and I am on day 25.
What batch is that? I ordered during the 50% off sale?
Dogmeat
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I'd like some more clarification on protocols for HCG and blood testing from members who are knowledgeable on the subject with no vested interest in the outcome, before people start jumping on the bandwagon that the bloods I posted are garbage because I was blasting HCG minutes before my blood draw (which I absolutely was not). I'm 100% willing to get bloods again in six weeks, but I don't want to waste my time with a mediocre cycle and then two blood tests, only to be dismissed because I didn't cover every angle.
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Dogmeat
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I'm starting to really wonder about this place...
Astro has just stated that he doesn't use batch numbers. How could anyone be even remotely sure the cyp was from the same batch?
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I wouldn't do that, that's not how I operate. I'm just trying to get a 2nd party to test to confirm if it is in fact the test cyp that's all. If it were to test bad again then I'd have conformation.
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Lets be realistic here Dogmeat. Most UGL's print thousands of labels once with the same exp and batch # and label multiple batches with the same labels. Most do not print new labels for each batch they make with a new batch #. Not saying this is a good thing but unfortunately this is how it is. Astro not having batch numbers is no worse than the 99% of UGLs that have fake batch numbers.
PM works... Waiting to hear back from him to get an order in.
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I ordered my test cyp from you about 30 days ago and have been on for two weeks. If this is the same batch, I plan on getting labs in a few weeks. If you think you can tell after two weeks I may be persuaded to get them done sooner. Taking 500mg Astro test c and 400mg Astro bold cyp right now.
Dogmeat
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Let's get even more real, then. I posted legit blood work and had a real issue that I came forward about. It seems that for my issue to be taken seriously and addressed I have to: 1) Avoid using LC-MS testing because it requires proper calibration from a lab to be accurate, 2) Stop using HCG because it "may" interfere with lab results, 3) Get blood work again using different methodology in a few weeks, 4) Take the "no big deal" risk of shipping my questionable test cyp back to Astro.
Astro, on the other hand, has to: 1) Give test cyp to another member with the reassurance that when it comes to shady BS he, "wouldn't do that, that's not how I operate."
For the record, I'm not saying Astro has actually scammed me or done anything shady. I'm just tired, sick of posting in my defense, and not having a very productive cycle. Peace, guys.
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You should not feel on the defense as we are all just trying to brain storm here and rule out all viable reasons for the test results. Astro did ask you to send your gear to another member for testing and if need be he would send you new gear. I see your point in regards to not wanting to ship something illegal to someone else so that option is gone.
You just have to see it from a seller stand point (I am not speaking for Astro). When you buy a product such as an ipad, tv, etc and something goes wrong you can't just call or send a pic and say "hey it doesn't work can I have a new one" you need to bring or mail the old one back. That's probably why he wanted you to send the gear so he could test and confirm it is the culprit and replace it for you. If members just had to show a low total test blood work and say the were on his test for xxx amount of weeks and they would get replacement gear for free he would attract a boat load of scammers looking for free gear.
I suggest someone send you a free labmax test kit to at least confirm you have Test C. This wouldn't involve you sending anything in the mail. Just posting some photos of the gear and the test results or even a 2 minute video emailed directly to Astro showing you perform the test with his gear.
