I'll probably stick to 200 and fuck it. 20% BB should suffice I guess to hold it at 200 hopefully ahaha
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Spaceman Spiff
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Yes but as you told me pip comes from concentration of the substance and the guy reported a mild pip at 250. So fuck it I want pipless gear I'll just go 20% MCT and pin a little bit more oil
narta
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High concentration matters when you pin volume so test, EQ, deca, mast. No one in their right mind should pin grams of tren, trest, dhb or injectible orals. In the rare cases that is needed, aka open category competitors, oil volume shouldn't be a problem.
Only exception is primo, but it's a shit anabolic with a steep price so no one should pin grams of it either....
Only exception is primo, but it's a shit anabolic with a steep price so no one should pin grams of it either....
I agree with you completely but I like to pin the least amount of oil possible in general so I'm trying to see if I can do that optimizing concentration on any compounds.
Deca is not really needed past 300mg I believe. 600mg week deca is more then enough for a nice bulk.
Mast as well at 400mg weekly works well, max 600mg. So a concentration of 300mg is enough.
I wouldn't call primo a shit anabolic lol, many ppl raves by it. 600-800 primo bring very nice gains. Wish one could do primo 300 pipless but I don't think is doable. 250 in castor oil is possible
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Oakley6575
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I brew my primo E at 300mg/mL with no issues.
What's the recipe? Is it pipless? If you wanna share it I'll add it to the list
Oakley6575
Well-known Member
Yes, pipless. Been using it for about 8 months I think at this point and have never had a bad injection with it. The recipe is nothing special. I also brew my test cyp at 300mg/mL.
Primo E @ 300mg/mL
MCT
20% BB
2% BA
Test Cyp @ 300mg/mL
MCT
22% BB
2% BA
Dirthand
Well-known Member
I brewed and used a couple vials a peice with no pip 3ml a shot.. 1ml each compound:
MastE 350 2ba24bb
Tren E 250 2ba22bb
Test C 300 2ba26bb
All have been hold since 7/21/24
Lol really? Just 20% BB? Same as Primo 200???
I'm srsly surprised... Like a lot.
Is it easy to get it to dissolve or takes a bit of time? Did you try a smaller increase or BB or just stayed at 20% and that's it?
Test C by different ppl I have seen it brewed 300mg 21-22% BB so if you want you can try to lower it a bit.
Thanks for the other recipes!
Spaceman Spiff
Well-known Member
I have found on meso here many ppl reporting that recipe holding ok and being pipless. Some report crashing below 14-15 degrees, do you live in a cold place?
Spaceman Spiff
Well-known Member
not at all.
here is a published study of reporting with 2/20 made oils
Structural Insights and Intermolecular Energy for Some Medium and Long-Chain Testosterone Esters - PMC
Testosterone (17β-Hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one) is the primary male anabolic-androgenic steroid. The crystal structures of two medium and two long esterified forms of testosterone, including enanthate, cypionate, decanoate and undecanoate, were ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Test C, Test D, and Test U
Dirthand
Well-known Member
I have heard the same but my thought is why chance it when 4% more bb is harmless and you don't have to worry about it crashing at all.. I have actually brew a lot of stuff since I started that people say will work but hasn't.
McLovin.
New Member
any idea what the reason is to why testD holds at such high mg/ml compared to both a shorter and longer ester?
Fucking hell if I send you the recipe list I'm gathering will you go over all of them and compare it with your experience or list so you can tell me which would work and which doesn't?
Oakley6575
Well-known Member
I used to brew it at 20% BB but in the winter, it would be crashed in the morning when I woke up. Put it on a bit of heat and it would come back right away. 22% seems solid so far. I keep my house at 70* at night and 75* in the day.
All that being said, I just brew for personal use and have not sent my test or primo brews in for testing. It very well could be under dosed and that is why it is holding well for me. But I wouldn't imagine it is 50+mg/mL under dosed like that chart shows.
narta
Member
I dunno. There are a bunch of people that report that it holds but does it really? Crashed and being VISIBLY crashed may look different but it has the same outcome most of the time and that's pip.
On the other hand pip intensity differs wildly in each person. I personally tolerate high pip very well due to less nerve endings/high pain tolerance
