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[johnnyBALLZ]

Why wouldn't you be implying that? The doc said it was low a few posts up.

I'm guessing because he's new he's trying not to ruffle any feathers..

 

[Michael Scally MD]

TRT on pharm test c had my levels between 500 and 1200. My dosing was 400mg EOW, so pretty much two weeks apart. The higher levels obviously came 2 days after shot. Lowest level, the day before my next shot. I have since dropped this doc as the dosing was ridiculous, but this is a reference on how I react to pharm test. 500mg/week of the first batch of Astro's Test E had me ~3200.

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There is no way that a dose of 400 mg will provide 1,200 ng/dL 2 days after the shot.

And, working backwards gives some strange math for a half-life.

Why every two weeks? And, who administered the shot?

 

[fyron]

Why wouldn't you be implying that? The doc said it was low a few posts up.

It's not because I'm afraid to call someone out, but I would want to make sure all variables were accounted for before I did(in this case the length of my cycle up to the bloods). I feel like getting them done again at the 8 week mark may be beneficial.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

This is for TE 250 mg.

 

[TruBodybuilder1989]

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At 3 days post pin, the level will be close to peak. At 500 mg per week, this will place the serum testosterone over 4,000 ng/dL easily and in many at 5,000 ng/dL. That the level is half this at peak speaks directly that the AAS is not what it is advertised. One can expect a level of 2,000-2,500 ng/dL just prior to the pin.

What does the time of day have anything to do with the test?

Bring It On!!!

Time of day has nothing, just noted that I have my own appt tomorrow at 830am so I can compare my bloods. Of course I'm only doing 250mg EW, I'm hoping to be greater then 1,500 ng per dl on my tests back.

 

[TruBodybuilder1989]

You're an idiot all around aren't you "brah".. When you're not shilling for labs and sending scammers over you spread false info, eh?

500mg/week should put you at roughly 5000ng/dl

Shilling for labs - did a friend a favor and scammers; if Titan is a scammer then that would be news to me. Scammers - if the products test bad, people don't get packs then we can talk. Until then I came over here to spread a good word for a good friend who did me right in the past. Let the results and or TA or customer service speak. I'll happily eat crow if it comes up bad. Below I posted some threads I found with conflicted results. I was always under the assumption that 500mg per week would put you at 2k-2.5k, however it looks more to be around that 5k-7k range according to the third link. It appears I was wrong, and for that I eat some crow I'll choose to have it hot n fresh.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/test-levels-w-500mg-per-week-injections.11366/

http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/week_7_of_test_cyp_only_some_labs

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/31291-500mg-test-pw-but-blood-levels-low

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/604920-test-lvl-500mg-test-e.html
(Third post down says about 2.8k after about a week.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/153723-300mg-vs-600mg-testosterone.html

(Really great read here I thought)

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Actually my response was pretty spot on, seems to me alot of people agree with my thoughts. Shilling for labs - did a friend a favor and scammers; if Titan is a scammer then that would be news to me. Scammers - if the products test bad, people don't get packs then we can talk. Until then I came over here to spread a good word for a good friend who did me right in the past. Let the results and or TA or customer service speak. I'll happily eat crow if it comes up bad.

Your blood work already came up bad according to your previous post in this thread..

Thanks for telling the source to come here with his underdosed gear!!

 

[TruBodybuilder1989]

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Another thought! Let's for argument sake say you are correct. So, 200 mg per week places you at 1,500 ng/dL. 500 mg per week will be at 3,750 ng/dL, which shows the level of ~2,000 ng/dL is BS.

Go Ahead! Make My Day! It is a dose dependent linear relationship.

But, that is not the actual observation, but still we can see that claim is even bogus by your assumption.

I never said I was correct, I honestly thought every 500 was about 2500ng per dl. Maybe that was meaning a week post pin? I've been trying to find my links but I guess I didn't book mark them. My apologies.

 

[TruBodybuilder1989]

Your blood work already came up bad according to your previous post in this thread..

Corrected my response please re-read. Only value I've personally see with my own eyes was from my buddy's private MD lab panel. He did a shot on Thursday morning and got a test Monday morning. His blood was great then 1,500 ng/dl, exact number I do not know honestly as the test was the sensitive one that you can buy else where. This blood work was done around 10 weeks into his cruise.

 

[TruBodybuilder1989]

Question, a guy recently posted 8 weeks into a test cyle at 500mg a week his bloods where at 3,000 mark.

Are you saying his test levels won't raise higher then 2,00 the entire cylce? or are you saying at this point his test levels are good for four weeks in?

Well I'm no expert has my original thought was off. But from looking at the other replies, 500mg test should peak within 3 days someone said or atleast close to it. That should be around 4-5k range in ng / dl. His blood was 2,009 ng per dl, I don't know how many does post shot he tested but if at 500 then he should be close to that 4k range. Testing it further down range in terms of week on would probably give him a better eduacated idea of his range.

 

[Colt44]

Well I'm no expert has my original thought was off. But from looking at the other replies, 500mg test should peak within 3 days someone said or atleast close to it. That should be around 4-5k range in ng / dl. His blood was 2,009 ng per dl, I don't know how many does post shot he tested but if at 500 then he should be close to that 4k range. Testing it further down range in terms of week on would probably give him a better eduacated idea of his range.

You're an expert bullshitter. That's for sure. Why state something as if it is fact and then recant 2 posts later. You see now why your opinion means shit here? You vouching for a lab is a joke.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

IF you are using UG AAS (TC/TE/TP) and wish to test, albeit indirectly, the accuracy of the advertised strength, the best time to test is within 2-3 days post pin at least two weeks into the cycle. You want to test for the peak, NOT the nadir. The nadir will NOT provide good information. That is unless they made it much stronger!

 

[boxcar]

Jesus, I love how Scally is throwing down the hammer and everyone knows his shit is legit info.

I'm VERY excited to see how astro handles this....I was just about to pull the trigger with astro as well =)

 

[TruBodybuilder1989]

Your blood work already came up bad according to your previous post in this thread..

Thanks for telling the source to come here with his underdosed gear!!

I was a member here long before the source came here. I didn't tell him to come here at all.


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[TruBodybuilder1989]

You're an expert bullshitter. That's for sure. Why state something as if it is fact and then recant 2 posts later. You see now why your opinion means shit here? You vouching for a lab is a joke.

Because I THOUGHT it was fact, maybe it was every 250mg = 2-2.5k, that could very well be the case. I recanted and ate crow, what else do you want me to do? If you want me to leave then that's cool. I'll depart and quickly as I arrived. I know what products do and results needed I do know that. Now the math side of things no I don't.


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[johnnyBALLZ]

I was a member here long before the source came here. I didn't tell him to come here at all.


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Just stop... You're post history shows you pushing him as a source here and you only had a whopping 15 posts in the 6 months you were here before he came..

I'll be back later, I'm trying to catch a fish with my son before it gets dark so please stop making my phone go off by quoting my posts, thanks..

 

[TruBodybuilder1989]

Ya know I came here on a request. Request was to provide my personal opinion of products and services. That is it, nothing more nothing less. I wouldn't of came back in the manner I did if I would've known I would of been grilled and put down and just all around disrespected. You are no better then me, none of us are better then anyone else here. We all piss and shit the same, some people here have high horses. I'm a very humble man, when I'm wrong I stand up to what I did and admit it. Most wouldn't do that, most would keep running on and on. I get the vibe that some of you here think your better then me, or whoever else you guys interact with. I'd be happy to be a respected member here but I think I won't even be close to given the chance. You guys already have a set demnor / opinion about me that this is probably all for nothing. But no hard feelings, I wish you guys well here and I hope the forum gets a good source. For those of you who have PM'd me, you all have my alternative email. Feel free to reach me there.


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[Astro Labs]

I wanted to drop in to share with you all the bloods I got done recently. I placed a large order with astro and he did everything right on his end as far as I am concerned. These bloods were
Taken exactly 4 weeks into my cycle of 500 test/1g bold cyp(front loaded with 2x dose). I feel as if the t levels are a little low, but the bloods were taken 3 days after my last pin

I'm giving you $100 store credit plus something else for the blood work. If your truly unsatisfied PM me or matter fact email me and we'll talk there.

 

[Colt44]

I got these done with the female hormone panel from privatemdlabs. I upped it to 750mg test so i may get more done in a few weeks to see how my test and Estro is. But regardless astro's gear is gtg from what I can tell.

When did you purchase this test? It would be good to know for those with the same gear.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

^I personally think those estimates are a little high...if you look at guys who are able to get watson test cyp prescribed at 200mg/wk they usually turn back bloods of about 1500. Those levels are definitely low but I dont know if Ive ever seen 500mg/wk turn out 5,000 test levels even from rx test.

Just my experience from the old guys I know on TRT

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The men received injections of 600 mg of testosterone enanthate or placebo weekly for 10 weeks. The level of testosterone in the study a 1 week after the last injection was around 3,000 ng/dL [2,800 - 3,200]. Do the math! One week prior, the level was ~6,000 ng/dL. And, for some, much higher.

Bhasin S, Storer TW, Berman N, et al. The Effects of Supraphysiologic Doses of Testosterone on Muscle Size and Strength in Normal Men. N Engl J Med 1996;335(1):1-7. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101