Thank you, that's an answer that I would have liked to hear. I honestly didn't expect a doctor to come in and talk, but I wanted to talk to humans who can understand my questions and not go off track and roid rage at me after reading the first sentence.
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tileguy123
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does the screen name correlate with your HS graduation date ? would seem so
No. It has no meaning whatsoever, I used "gainz" from hodgetwins and 2014 just for the year.
tileguy123
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so your just a babbling dick or are you having some tresomnia.. the excuse all the douche bags use on steroid forums
Neither. if you wanna call me a douchebag for asking a valid question and disrespecting people equally for disrespect I got from them, go ahead. I asked a simple question and answering with
"Shove it up your ass"
"Because prop is only dosed at 100mg/mL for it to be stable"
"do you not even know the half life of test enan"
clearly shows lack of intelligence, sense of logic and comprehension abilities. If you can't understand the simple comparison between enan and prop, and the question I'm asking regarding the difference, you really should get your brain checked or try to read the fucking comment before you answer with "shove it up your ass."
Steroidplot has 100mg/day of prop peaking at 120mg and trough at 67mg. 100mg/day of enth peaks at 75.5mg and troughs at 68.1mg. So you will certainly NOT get the same results from running enth like you would prop. Not even close really.
If the question would of had some specifics for exactly what you were asking then maybe you would have gotten a better answer. The second part of my answer gave you what you needed. Prop breaks down and works faster in the body then eth. The effects are quicker which allows for shorter cycles with quality gains. But again it wasn't the answer you wanted to your very vague question. If you want specific answers ask the questions accordingly!
Yeah I looked at it. I'm just wondering where the source of this is from. Anyone who has been in this game has heard of
"Test is test. Enan or prop, the ester weight difference is minimal and so dont overcomplicate things."
That's why I'm wondering. I'm not a doctor or anything but from my understanding, test enan and test prop has barely any difference in effectiveness, and thus same dosages should have minimal difference in their effects, correct? The only thing different should be the time for the enan and prop to kick in , but once they both kick in, there 'should' be no difference.
Can anyone tell me why this is? Or lead me to a study? I mean if there is a study with concrete data, or a scientific explanation behind the difference in effectiveness of these compounds(according to steroidplot), that'd be aweosme. Because from my point of view,
1/2 price+less pip(for most)+less pinning+roughly same effectiveness+requires frontloading
is much more attractive than
double price+more pip+more pinning+slightly better effectiveness+no frotnlaoding
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Stop going full retard again. I specifically told you that test enan is half the price of prop, and that there is theoretically VERY MINIMAL(5~10%) difference between effectiveness due to ester weights. I also mentioned that one can frontload to expect the same "kick in" time as prop. Your "answer" is totally useless in the sense that the basis of my question was that you can frontload the enan. Now, if you didn't read the question correctly(which you clearly didn't, looking at the "there is nothing about frontloading in your first post" comment), stop being rude and giving dumbfuk, useless answers that are completely out of context and the conditions I gave in the damn questions.
whodatnation
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Remember also that the weight of the ester that the compound is in makes a huge difference in the actual amount of test or anything else for that matter is in a ml.
testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
Testoseterone Cypionate : 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg
testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
Testoseterone Cypionate : 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg
Yep. took that in to account already. It's 10mg difference(a little bit more than 10% that I mentioned above), but the price difference is 100%. That's why I'm wondering! If the test is double in prop than enan, totally understandable!
1/2 price+less pip(for most)+less pinning+roughly same effectiveness(10% less effective)+requires frontloading
is much more attractive(to me) than
double price+more pip+more pinning+slightly better effectiveness(10% more effective)+no frotnlaoding
TruBodybuilder1989
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I'd try two of these! Let me know when u get back and we can work a deal. I'd happily post bloods
chewiebaca
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Okay you've proven yourself worthy.. You wanna know why it costs about twice as much? Probably the price of Raws are more expensive. Probably just blew your fucken mind.
In reality I don't think anyone knows nor do they really care.
In reality I don't think anyone knows nor do they really care.
I mean obviously if all labs are selling prop for more, obvs raw is more expensive. That's not my main question.. Im asking why people would use prop over enan, and the differences between them that attract people who do use prop.
It didn't "blow my fucken mind" because demand for prop and enan couldn't be too different, so the only reason prop is more expensive is cost.
whodatnation
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I will give you two reasons why I use pro instead of the long esters a lot. One is water retention. Second is ability to start pct sooner and keep my levels in check. Pro is always less then the other test where I buy from. I also like with pro that if I get tren dick I can go pump another cc in and get ole cyclops back to operating correctly
I see. That is an understandable reason, + if prop is less than enan, then there are really no "better" test between the two. It's just simple preference issue--some people prefer less pip/less pinning of enan, some people prefer fast-reacting/short halflife prop. Im just asking because the price difference is pretty big and I wanted to ask why people pay double for prop.
chewiebaca
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People choose prop over enanth for many reasons. Sooner pct, it is out of your system faster for testing, if you can't deal with the sides then there's that. Just all preference.
Astro Labs
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Astro Labs
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You mean for Enan? It's 250mg ml vs 100mg ml
whodatnation
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I can only guess that he is comparing price by deducting the Test e mg per ml by the test pro and figures he is paying double for the test pro???
Everywhere I get pro I pay significantly less per vial so I am lost on this one.
Everywhere I get pro I pay significantly less per vial so I am lost on this one.
