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Thanks for the input 4leaf! When you run higher test what do your bloods look like? Have a friend tell me his labs were 7500ish. Is he wasting his gear or is this beneficial? He is running around 750 test among other compounds. Im going to look at his labs today. Maybe I could grab them and post, get some input? I like the deal with orals, quick pct, half the ammount of time on. Gotta get moving,work calls. Hope you have a good day bro and thx for the info!

Depends on several factors if he is wasting the gear. At that range (750 mg), I would be aiming to hit every muscle group 2x a week, for a 6 day a week workout. When it's not the summer, I also add in 2-3 sessions of cardio per week. The second factor is how much is he eating, usually I feel like high dose ranges are better suited to bulking, and to bulk you need to eat. The third factor is how many cycles has he ran? If this is his first, he is undoubtedly wasting gear. You use multiple compound stacks to break plateaus or extreme doses. If he had done a round of test previously, hit a max, trained while off cycle and was still around that max, then I would say try stacking, I would say stack 1 oral, test, and another compound. Unless you're a pro, there is really no need for multiple oral cycles, test, test suspension, deca, EQ, mast, tren (they go through all of these in contest prep, and a few more I left out, like GH, synthol, etc). For amateur and intermediate users (I was a boxer, and I consider myself an intermediate user), 3 stacking is fine. Once you get comfortable with the compounds you like, you can run 2 orals per cycle, extend the cycle, up the dosage range, stack mildly and add in a few extra goodies (like proviron). This in my opinion is what going from beginning AAS to intermediate looks like.

People always want to rush it, at least from what I've seen on the internet. I used to compete (box, amateur) and my coach always told me, you have a lifetime to achieve your goals, don't do stupid shit. Training and diet is far more important than AAS, don't get me wrong AAS has helped me tremendously, but it was in the latter half of my career. When I started using, it was to recover from a very serious injury I suffered, that 3 years of therapy didn't completely fix.

I'm not saying don't use, cuz I love the juice. But you should think about your long term goals, not just AAS use, and plan accordingly (like I don't drink now, so I can use more oral cycles). It's all about the checks and balances. You want to live a long healthy life (hopefully, at least I do), and I don't want to shit in a bag when I'm 60 either.
 
Depends on several factors if he is wasting the gear. At that range (750 mg), I would be aiming to hit every muscle group 2x a week, for a 6 day a week workout. When it's not the summer, I also add in 2-3 sessions of cardio per week. The second factor is how much is he eating, usually I feel like high dose ranges are better suited to bulking, and to bulk you need to eat. The third factor is how many cycles has he ran? If this is his first, he is undoubtedly wasting gear. You use multiple compound stacks to break plateaus or extreme doses. If he had done a round of test previously, hit a max, trained while off cycle and was still around that max, then I would say try stacking, I would say stack 1 oral, test, and another compound. Unless you're a pro, there is really no need for multiple oral cycles, test, test suspension, deca, EQ, mast, tren (they go through all of these in contest prep, and a few more I left out, like GH, synthol, etc). For amateur and intermediate users (I was a boxer, and I consider myself an intermediate user), 3 stacking is fine. Once you get comfortable with the compounds you like, you can run 2 orals per cycle, extend the cycle, up the dosage range, stack mildly and add in a few extra goodies (like proviron). This in my opinion is what going from beginning AAS to intermediate looks like.

People always want to rush it, at least from what I've seen on the internet. I used to compete (box, amateur) and my coach always told me, you have a lifetime to achieve your goals, don't do stupid shit. Training and diet is far more important than AAS, don't get me wrong AAS has helped me tremendously, but it was in the latter half of my career. When I started using, it was to recover from a very serious injury I suffered, that 3 years of therapy didn't completely fix.

I'm not saying don't use, cuz I love the juice. But you should think about your long term goals, not just AAS use, and plan accordingly (like I don't drink now, so I can use more oral cycles). It's all about the checks and balances. You want to live a long healthy life (hopefully, at least I do), and I don't want to shit in a bag when I'm 60 either.

Very well put 4LC
 
Depends on several factors if he is wasting the gear. At that range (750 mg), I would be aiming to hit every muscle group 2x a week, for a 6 day a week workout. When it's not the summer, I also add in 2-3 sessions of cardio per week. The second factor is how much is he eating, usually I feel like high dose ranges are better suited to bulking, and to bulk you need to eat. The third factor is how many cycles has he ran? If this is his first, he is undoubtedly wasting gear. You use multiple compound stacks to break plateaus or extreme doses. If he had done a round of test previously, hit a max, trained while off cycle and was still around that max, then I would say try stacking, I would say stack 1 oral, test, and another compound. Unless you're a pro, there is really no need for multiple oral cycles, test, test suspension, deca, EQ, mast, tren (they go through all of these in contest prep, and a few more I left out, like GH, synthol, etc). For amateur and intermediate users (I was a boxer, and I consider myself an intermediate user), 3 stacking is fine. Once you get comfortable with the compounds you like, you can run 2 orals per cycle, extend the cycle, up the dosage range, stack mildly and add in a few extra goodies (like proviron). This in my opinion is what going from beginning AAS to intermediate looks like.

People always want to rush it, at least from what I've seen on the internet. I used to compete (box, amateur) and my coach always told me, you have a lifetime to achieve your goals, don't do stupid shit. Training and diet is far more important than AAS, don't get me wrong AAS has helped me tremendously, but it was in the latter half of my career. When I started using, it was to recover from a very serious injury I suffered, that 3 years of therapy didn't completely fix.

I'm not saying don't use, cuz I love the juice. But you should think about your long term goals, not just AAS use, and plan accordingly (like I don't drink now, so I can use more oral cycles). It's all about the checks and balances. You want to live a long healthy life (hopefully, at least I do), and I don't want to shit in a bag when I'm 60 either.
Thanks bro! Excellent info and execution was pretty badass as well. Thanks, ill pass this on to him. Very good stuff to think about. Again, thx for your time and life experience. It'll help me.
 
Depends on several factors if he is wasting the gear. At that range (750 mg), I would be aiming to hit every muscle group 2x a week, for a 6 day a week workout. When it's not the summer, I also add in 2-3 sessions of cardio per week. The second factor is how much is he eating, usually I feel like high dose ranges are better suited to bulking, and to bulk you need to eat. The third factor is how many cycles has he ran? If this is his first, he is undoubtedly wasting gear. You use multiple compound stacks to break plateaus or extreme doses. If he had done a round of test previously, hit a max, trained while off cycle and was still around that max, then I would say try stacking, I would say stack 1 oral, test, and another compound. Unless you're a pro, there is really no need for multiple oral cycles, test, test suspension, deca, EQ, mast, tren (they go through all of these in contest prep, and a few more I left out, like GH, synthol, etc). For amateur and intermediate users (I was a boxer, and I consider myself an intermediate user), 3 stacking is fine. Once you get comfortable with the compounds you like, you can run 2 orals per cycle, extend the cycle, up the dosage range, stack mildly and add in a few extra goodies (like proviron). This in my opinion is what going from beginning AAS to intermediate looks like.

People always want to rush it, at least from what I've seen on the internet. I used to compete (box, amateur) and my coach always told me, you have a lifetime to achieve your goals, don't do stupid shit. Training and diet is far more important than AAS, don't get me wrong AAS has helped me tremendously, but it was in the latter half of my career. When I started using, it was to recover from a very serious injury I suffered, that 3 years of therapy didn't completely fix.

I'm not saying don't use, cuz I love the juice. But you should think about your long term goals, not just AAS use, and plan accordingly (like I don't drink now, so I can use more oral cycles). It's all about the checks and balances. You want to live a long healthy life (hopefully, at least I do), and I don't want to shit in a bag when I'm 60 either.

This is some of the best advice I've read in awhile. I hope some of the guys that think aas are the answer to all their problems read this. Looking forward to more of your posts 4leaf.
 
Small update: <as I started a thread already>
2 weeks on astros bioniche test e and tren a. Noticing strength along with noticeable size. No sides yet. Happy guy here. Thanks astro.

Keep rockin

Glad to hear that brother. I tried to get in on the bioniche but no luck. Looking forward to see your progress on your log.
 
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Been running Astros prop and biotech tren a @ 75/75 ed. I'd have to say the test is legit but my Madison James aromasin is bunk as shit. I've been running 12.5 eod and it apparently has not done a fucking thing. My nips aren't sensitive but to say this high estradiol level is not freaking me out a little I'd be lying.


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I've been running some pharma caber every third day as well. I feel like a million bucks man. Horny, hungry, killing it in the gym. If anything I've been a complete asshole since I've been on the tren (first timer), but other than the attitude and some night sweats I've had no negative sides.


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Been running Astros prop and biotech tren a @ 75/75 ed. I'd have to say the test is legit but my Madison James aromasin is bunk as shit. I've been running 12.5 eod and it apparently has not done a fucking thing. My nips aren't sensitive but to say this high estradiol level is not freaking me out a little I'd be lying.


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Wow... Almost 8000 on 525mg/week??

I get insane E2 values running tren, even with an AI. I'm told the sensitive essay doesn't have the same issue, but I never bothered to add it in.

This is true.. I get ridiculous e2 readings on tren sometimes with Labcorp.. Freaked me out the first time.. If you don't have high e2 symptoms I wouldn't worry about it. There was a recent thread on this where @Burrr posted a lot of good info.
 
I'm sensitive to test, I can't explain why. My TRT dose of 100 mg of Cyp puts me over 1200. Regardless I'm gonna need about 20 vials of this prop as soon as my man gets the shop up and running. This is hands down the most fun I've had on a cycle since I popped my cherry a few years back.


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Been running Astros prop and biotech tren a @ 75/75 ed. I'd have to say the test is legit but my Madison James aromasin is bunk as shit. I've been running 12.5 eod and it apparently has not done a fucking thing. My nips aren't sensitive but to say this high estradiol level is not freaking me out a little I'd be lying.


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You have to use quest diagnostics to get an accurate estrogen reading when running tren.
 
Hey volt, I'm in Canada so the test is free. On the downside the last one took around 9 business days. As soon as I get the numbers I'll post it up here. I'd expect results between end of this week to middle of next.
Free but its Canada gotcha:)
 
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Been running Astros prop and biotech tren a @ 75/75 ed. I'd have to say the test is legit but my Madison James aromasin is bunk as shit. I've been running 12.5 eod and it apparently has not done a fucking thing. My nips aren't sensitive but to say this high estradiol level is not freaking me out a little I'd be lying.


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I'm kind of sad youre doing 525 prop a week and I'm on 850 test e and you tested twice as high as me.
 
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