Astro Labs US Dom and Intl SRC

[weekend]

^yee i am using test ace now, it works great! no acne like test e

havent used prop

also have suspension but fuck dealing with clogs.

 

[TheGuy85]

Might have to find some Test Ace.

 

[flenser]

All you have to do is provide what you want the lab to test. it doesn't mean that's what your using in your brewing because you are involved in the testing. If the source is providing the samples that are going to be tested it defeats the purpose because all the shady source has to do is then go back to selling the underdosed or test P for primo or whatever bullshit he's pulling.
The source cannot be any part of the testing if it's to hold weight. I don't believe you're having your stuff tested anyway. I don't. You talk about shady sources. You began your little thing here with stolen goods from your boss? Shady? You're it.
You couldn't provide a real primo sample if you wanted to, though. In a pm you told me that karls primo is not primo(which you sold and probably still do.) and your new "secret" source isn't primo either. His primo failed. I don't believe you ever bought any other primo anyway. You say there were other orders than the 2 you showed me? If so, the primo isn't so perhaps you should pull it.
Why do you think you're different than every other source and treated differently. You're not one of "us". You're one of "them". You don't need to tell us how to check you. We've got this.

He didn't even test the product he was defending with that HPLC line, or he would have known it was shit.

 

[biggerben69]

He didn't even test the product he was defending with that HPLC line, or he would have known it was shit.

I'm not sure what your referring to, but if it's astro, I've said I don't believe he had any of his own stuff tested. Even if he had it means nothing to anyone, Good for him if it makes him sleep better but if he did have something tested he provided the samples to test. Worthless, you would agree?

 

[flenser]

I'm not sure what your referring to, but if it's astro, I've said I don't believe he had any of his own stuff tested. Even if he had it means nothing to anyone, Good for him if it makes him sleep better but if he did have something tested he provided the samples to test. Worthless, you would agree?

He made the HPLC statement in an effort to discredit the test I ran on his var tabs, but he never had those tabs tested. I don't know about his other stuff. I have an assortment I will test soon, though.

Yes, I agree it's worthless. I wouldn't have when we had our last exchange, but I do now.

 

[Astro Labs]

Lets get something clear the Var tabs are NOT my brand!!! I Did NOT make them so don't say my Var tabs say Sciroxx var tabs. I test my raws and my raws only due to the pricing. I would take responsibility if they weren't what is labled.



I'll say this again since you guys like to continually post here about this. If the Sciroxx tabs weren't what they say that is NOT my fault!!! It is NOT of my doing!!! My products are Astro Labs NOT SCIROXX. So please spare me the part where someone try to discredit my hard work and honesty because someone else potentially sells junk. I don't make the HGH but I'd tested bunk I'd refund same goes for the tabs because I did not make them. I'm sending them to another member here for testing along with MY raws so it's completely unbiased. Yes I do run HPLC tests but I guess a few people like to asume they're fakes.

He made the HPLC statement in an effort to discredit the test I ran on his var tabs, but he never had those tabs tested. I don't know about his other stuff. I have an assortment I will test soon, though.

Yes, I agree it's worthless. I wouldn't have when we had our last exchange, but I do now.

 

[flenser]

Lets get something clear the Var tabs are NOT my brand!!! I Did NOT make them so don't say my Var tabs say Sciroxx var tabs. I test my raws and my raws only due to the pricing. I would take responsibility if they weren't what is labled.

Had you said that when this started I would still be your customer (I actually did say that in PM to few people in your defense). But you didn't. You bashed the test distributor's language skills, intelligence and honesty. Then when you found out I got sick by ODing on your fake var, you accused me of scamming you.

You did everything you could to discredit the test, the distributor and me. All along you kept saying you were 100% sure the tabs were legit, both publicly and in PM to me. So tell me, who do you think still believes you "stand behind your products 100%"? Fuck your weasel words, and fuck you.

 

[biggerben69]

Lets get something clear the Var tabs are NOT my brand!!! I Did NOT make them so don't say my Var tabs say Sciroxx var tabs. I test my raws and my raws only due to the pricing. I would take responsibility if they weren't what is labled.



I'll say this again since you guys like to continually post here about this. If the Sciroxx tabs weren't what they say that is NOT my fault!!! It is NOT of my doing!!! My products are Astro Labs NOT SCIROXX. So please spare me the part where someone try to discredit my hard work and honesty because someone else potentially sells junk. I don't make the HGH but I'd tested bunk I'd refund same goes for the tabs because I did not make them. I'm sending them to another member here for testing along with MY raws so it's completely unbiased. Yes I do run HPLC tests but I guess a few people like to asume they're fakes.

The scirroxx tabs are not your fault. All you did was steal them. You make no claims to potency. If you had known you would've left room in your getaway car for a flatscreen?
Wouldn't want to discredit your "hard work and HONESTY."? Do you believe the crazy things that come out of your mouth sometimes little man?
Hey stupid. You sending the sample to be tested makes the test COMPLETELY BIASED and useless. Why don't u understand that? Everyone else does.
It's way out there to read you insulting the victim of your theft. You should behave a bit better. This is more than likely the only venue you can operate on. Even if you were to pay. Karl has juice. I'd be very interested in seeing if karl would work next to the arrogant piece of shit that was his employee that decided one day to simply take his property and divert his money to himself and upon hearing there may be issues with the stolen gear call it junk. The world of make believe you live in must be a cool place.
Doesn't seem like you have any plans on showing you have any interest in self preservation. You actually plan on turning up production. Fuck it. You are aware what would happen to you if you ripped of the drug dealer you worked for and then brazenly sell it right around the corner from him?
This guy operates from the relative safety of a country far away from the usa. If you continue to flaunt and disrespect everyone has a limit to what they'll take. I wonder how much shit you can keep shoving in karls mouth? He's a proud man. You're a scum bag. Pride isn't something you're familiar with. How can u be proud of something u stole.
Your new shit is nothing special. The special need kid down the street can hook up with your powder source. You don't test shit from him. You wouldn't let something as trivial as the truth slow you down.
You really believe the public lame source u use has legit var and primo? You didn't even order any?
Your move is going to be that it's not your fault that he sold youn powder that wasn't as advertised. You clearly aren't big on accepting responsibility. The var you stole and sold isn't your fault? Too much.little guy. Over the top.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I'll say this again since you guys like to continually post here about this. If the Sciroxx tabs weren't what they say that is NOT my fault!!! It is NOT of my doing!!! My products are Astro Labs NOT SCIROXX.

Wow... Just, wow...

ANYTHING you sell is entirely your responsibility.. You're the guy taking the money Astro.

If I bought a bag of coke back in the day and it was garbage I'm cracking the guy's head who sold it to me NOT the guy he got it from..

 

[MassTurk]

@ BB69
I completely agree with all you have to say about Astro , he does not have the skills to deal with problems that's going to happen, but he still offered to all to replace their sciroxx var with his caps, right? So that's what we expect from a source when the product is questionable at best . His caps can be tested with no dye problems by the same people who tested the tabs. Hopefully for him his caps are var. but calling Karl a stand up guy when his products are mislabeled? Sx products shown to be under dosed , shorted and miss labeled . In my book Karl is a shitty business man also. I will probably dump all sx tabs I have. Can't be sure what I'm taking anymore. We will see how astro handles this , and redeem himself or be another ugl going bust

 

[Astro Labs]

Just do me a favor and stop acting like you know what happend. I stole nothing. I was a partener that parted ways because I felt it was in my best interest. Since you know it all why didn't karl himself come here and adress anyone? Why because you believed that bullshit that was being spewed. Sciroxx is not me so if his tabs weren't what they claimed that's his problem. My problem would be to take care of it like I always will. Because yes I can afford to do so. So in reality a problem arrises I take care of it with no hesitation sooooooo that would make me a st and up source wbk handles any problems. You kep saying I'm this piece of shit this and that but anytime I problem arises I take care of it.

Not for nothing who are you? Your not a source you don't know who's who and what's what. You claim to know everyything but that's your problem your a know it's all but in reality you know very little. You must feel like your the man on this forum but when you go home with your sorry ass job and no life and you se me and hate me because you could never do what I do. Deep down you wish you could do what I do. Not one other customer has complianed except this dude who's running an oral only cycle and wonders why his liver is fucked.

Ben I could care less about you but you can't leave me alone your infatuated. And I laugh at your "little man comment" your physique isn't quarter of what mine is, it is quite laughable to be honest.

The scirroxx tabs are not your fault. All you did was steal them. You make no claims to potency. If you had known you would've left room in your getaway car for a flatscreen?
Wouldn't want to discredit your "hard work and HONESTY."? Do you believe the crazy things that come out of your mouth sometimes little man?
Hey stupid. You sending the sample to be tested makes the test COMPLETELY BIASED and useless. Why don't u understand that? Everyone else does.
It's way out there to read you insulting the victim of your theft. You should behave a bit better. This is more than likely the only venue you can operate on. Even if you were to pay. Karl has juice. I'd be very interested in seeing if karl would work next to the arrogant piece of shit that was his employee that decided one day to simply take his property and divert his money to himself and upon hearing there may be issues with the stolen gear call it junk. The world of make believe you live in must be a cool place.
Doesn't seem like you have any plans on showing you have any interest in self preservation. You actually plan on turning up production. Fuck it. You are aware what would happen to you if you ripped of the drug dealer you worked for and then brazenly sell it right around the corner from him?
This guy operates from the relative safety of a country far away from the usa. If you continue to flaunt and disrespect everyone has a limit to what they'll take. I wonder how much shit you can keep shoving in karls mouth? He's a proud man. You're a scum bag. Pride isn't something you're familiar with. How can u be proud of something u stole.
Your new shit is nothing special. The special need kid down the street can hook up with your powder source. You don't test shit from him. You wouldn't let something as trivial as the truth slow you down.
You really believe the public lame source u use has legit var and primo? You didn't even order any?
Your move is going to be that it's not your fault that he sold youn powder that wasn't as advertised. You clearly aren't big on accepting responsibility. The var you stole and sold isn't your fault? Too much.little guy. Over the top.

 

[biggerben69]

If you've read my posts regarding karl and his company you'll see I don't speak highly of either. He is popular at many other boards and his gear is spoken highly of. We have seen the fall from where it he was at a time.
That in no way gives this fucking guy the greenlight to stesl his shit and sell for his own profit, imo.
Stretch handled it the way a man does in either a legal business or one dealing in illicit substances. Stretch didn't fill his pockets on the way out. I have said if the guy that ripped off stretch was trying to sell his stolen shit here it wouldn'y fly.
Astro is gonna find a similar response if he goes elsewhere at a place where karl is looked upon as a guy that;s been around and who has a level of respect, Stretch won't make it.

@ BB69
I completely agree with all you have to say about Astro , he does not have the skills to deal with problems that's going to happen, but he still offered to all to replace their sciroxx var with his caps, right? So that's what we expect from a source when the product is questionable at best . His caps can be tested with no dye problems by the same people who tested the tabs. Hopefully for him his caps are var. but calling Karl a stand up guy when his products are mislabeled? Sx products shown to be under dosed , shorted and miss labeled . In my book Karl is a shitty business man also. I will probably dump all sx tabs I have. Can't be sure what I'm taking anymore. We will see how astro handles this , and redeem himself or be another ugl going bust

 

[Astro Labs]

I just want to show members of this board that I am indeed highly educated in this business and that I do take this very seriously. What I'm about to show you will prove this. This is just an example and not the true process but you'll get the idea. Ask your source to show you where your products are made see what he says. When you deal with me just know make a superior product compared to these other UGLs. 100% sterile products every time and 100% dosed correctly.

And please don't underestimate what I can and cant handle as I'm always prepared. Sciroxx tabs will be pulled until testing confirms. I'm more than capable and equipped to handle these kind of issues. I don't believe I ever gave any indication I couldn't handle a issue that arises. My products I MAKE are of quality this has been confirmed many times over.

 

[Astro Labs]

With the above process not one bit of contamination takes place. This is about the best UGL set up possible because acquiring equipment like this is a major issue if not done properly. What I'm trying to show you is I am not some guy brewing in his kitchen with dust particles all in your oils even the ones you don't see but they're there believe that.

I'm not trying to bash any other source but if they don't have this setup then why would you buy from them? They shouldn't even be fucking with your guys health. I cant stress enough how important everyone health is when I brew, I strongly take it into consideration because I do in fact care, because if I didn't I wouldn't spend thousands of dollars to constantly up grade my equipment. A lot of the money I make gets reinvested in equipment and raws to guarantee I'm on top of my game.

It's your decision as members to decide if you purchase from me or whomever, I will never beg anyone to buy and I never have and I never will. I keep it brutally honest and I believe I've shown you guys the up most respect even when I wasn't shown the same. Purchase from whom you like but make an educated decision because you never know where your products come from. But with me you do.

 

[Astro Labs]

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[Astro Labs]

Show me where I said wouldn't accept responsibility? What I said was I'm not responsible for the tabs that I didn't make. I'm not going to play the twist my words game either read correctly or don't respond with something I never said. I believe by me remaining on this board its a good indication that I accept any responsibility.

Wow... Just, wow...

ANYTHING you sell is entirely your responsibility.. You're the guy taking the money Astro.

If I bought a bag of coke back in the day and it was garbage I'm cracking the guy's head who sold it to me NOT the guy he got it from..

 

[biggerben69]

oooohhhhh, there's some real drama going on here.

SxREP1 = Sciroxx customer service Rep#1.

(For those of you who don't know Astro used to brew gear/ship gear for Sciroxx. He posted pics of a ton of sciroxx labels and other packaging material as proof of this. I always wondered why Astro STILL had a ton of Sciroxx labels available to him to take pictures of, AFTER he started his own lab. It seems like if Karl knew Astro was going to quit, he would have taken back the labels and equipment. Perhaps Astro and Karl were pissed at each other when Astro left?)


If I read between the lines, it's pretty clear that, in the opinion of Karl, Astro either stole from, or otherwise fucked over Sciroxx. And therefore, Sciroxx is fucking with Astro's accounts.

What's the deal Astro?

Of course you will claim innocence, that's a given, and I have no reason to doubt you. But certainly there is some backstory here. What does Karl think you did to him?

My guess is, Karl owed you money or otherwise tried to fuck you because he is a smart businessman, and also a cheap bastard. What'd you do, take off with some of his powder and supplies and start your own lab out of spite? Starting to make sense why you had an autoclave before you had a sale now...

Either way, I'm subscribed to this shit!....opcorn:

Stretch set u up nicely said you were an employee of Karls that was upset and karl has caught up to you finally after you put up pics of scirroxx labels and told us that you worked for him.
Stretch then gave u what you what you saw as an out by saying that karl was cheap. Stretch asked if you opened up with k's property out of spite.

ALlot of shit happend and hell yeah he cheated me like a sun of a bitch. He underpaid me for months while he made a killing. I paid for the entire set up so everything was mine. I BOUGHT every fucking piece of machinery before I even made a dollar. So before I even brewed I paid for the equipment out of pocket. So it was my buisness I just brewed for him and he ripped me off in the process

And this is where you come clean.

Pm me asap.

Firstly I told everyone I brewed for Karl and shipped for him. He paid me pennies and I did all the work. I received the packages. I shipped the packages, I brewed everything. Hell I even bought all the equipment that I have before I even brewed for him.

Karl just collected the money and sent me orders and paid me SHIT. I FUCKING CLOSED SHOP FOR A FEW MONTHS AND STARTED MY OWN BUISNESS. YOUR MOTHER FUCKING RIGHT I DID. I WOULD TELL HEM SEND ME MORE MONEY AND IT WOULD TAKE 3 WEEKS TO RECEIVE.

And again you admit to stealing from him.

Fair enough, K will verify I am legit....also, how would I know the info that Astro ripped K off if I wasn't a very close partner with K? It's easy to prove I am legit..

BB I sent you a email.

Karl ripped me off by paying me like a pesant. Who bought all the equipment? Who brewed? Who shipped? YOUR MOTHER FUCKING RIGHT IT WAS MY BUISNESS I did everything how was it not mine? Maybe I'll stroll over to eroids and post some quality info for Karl. He knows I did everything.

My user name was linked to that email that's how my password here was hacked. What a bunch of dirtbags

I've been paid like shit at a lot of my jobs. Doesn't mean they stole from me. I agreed to work for that amount.

You are sounding more and more like a disgruntled employee rather than a victimized one.

There's many I wasn't the only one.

 

[Stretch]

Just do me a favor and stop acting like you know what happend. I stole nothing. I was a partener that parted ways because I felt it was in my best interest. Since you know it all why didn't karl himself come here and adress anyone?

You were a partner??? Or a brewer?? I can't keep up.

You parted because it was "in your best interest"? Or because Karl stole from you?

ALlot of shit happend and hell yeah he cheated me like a sun of a bitch. He underpaid me for months while he made a killing. I paid for the entire set up so everything was mine. I BOUGHT every fucking piece of machinery before I even made a dollar. So before I even brewed I paid for the equipment out of pocket. So it was my buisness I just brewed for him and he ripped me off in the process

A few weeks ago when people with no forum experience would ask me for a reliable source, I would tell them that I ordered from you with success, and I felt like they could do the same.

That's done now.

How many different double-speak moments do you think you can come back from? From "beastin" to the whole Karl debacle....geeeeezus....it just never ends.

BTW--in your first post above you say: "Since you know it all, why didn't Karl come here and address anyone?"

Well, Karl didn't come here in the open. He sent his head rep here to post about you. Karl also provided some of the Veteran members here with your home address, your real name, facebook page...etc... He was LIVID and said you stole from him.

I don't profess to know the truth, because I don't trust Karl anymore than I trust you.

I think, as usual, the truth lies in the middle. You're both thieves.

 

[Stretch]

Show me where I said wouldn't accept responsibility?

umm...

I think it was right here.

I'll say this again since you guys like to continually post here about this. If the Sciroxx tabs weren't what they say that is NOT my fault!!! It is NOT of my doing!!! My products are Astro Labs NOT SCIROXX.

That's like...

You buy a TV from BestBuy and when they deliver it, it won't turn on.

So, you take it back, and BestBuy says; "Not my fault. We just sell the TV's. Call Samsung"

 

[biggerben69]

Just do me a favor and stop acting like you know what happend. I stole nothing. I was a partener that parted ways because I felt it was in my best interest. Since you know it all why didn't karl himself come here and adress anyone? Why because you believed that bullshit that was being spewed. Sciroxx is not me so if his tabs weren't what they claimed that's his problem. My problem would be to take care of it like I always will. Because yes I can afford to do so. So in reality a problem arrises I take care of it with no hesitation sooooooo that would make me a st and up source wbk handles any problems. You kep saying I'm this piece of shit this and that but anytime I problem arises I take care of it.

Not for nothing who are you? Your not a source you don't know who's who and what's what. You claim to know everyything but that's your problem your a know it's all but in reality you know very little. You must feel like your the man on this forum but when you go home with your sorry ass job and no life and you se me and hate me because you could never do what I do. Deep down you wish you could do what I do. Not one other customer has complianed except this dude who's running an oral only cycle and wonders why his liver is fucked.

Ben I could care less about you but you can't leave me alone your infatuated. And I laugh at your "little man comment" your physique isn't quarter of what mine is, it is quite laughable to be honest.

Well I posted where you admitted to stealing your start up. I know many long time ugl's. You're brand new on an open board....our board. New guys are coming and going from here. It's taking longer for you to burn out because you started with free gear and free powders. You're nothing special. The only thing folks know about you is that you are the thieving little fuck that stole from karl. Reshippers are always big problems for sources. They steal gear and sell locally. This brings the heat. Like any other drug when someone is caught selling gear once arrested LE obtains a search warrant with probable cause and search the residence of the person arrested as it's reasonable to assume that there would be evidence of drug dealing and perhaps more drugs.
This is why when a source goes down its often at the hands of their reshipper who couldn't give up their boss fast enough.
Karl lives overseas. He knows the risks of employing people he doesn't personally. Settling with you for whatever the agreement was and then writing you off was a calculated move. Karl is a business man. His other option was to go after you personally and risk further exposure as you're making plenty of noise here and he'd like to distance himself from you. He;s a bit embarrassed, also, that his employee has as little respect for him as you did. You got him. Don't act as if you and he are equals and he's cool with you. You are not gonna open for business anyplace else. That's a fact.
As for me? Plenty of people know me. Not just the vip member bb69. There are about 8 or 10 people here that know the real me. The best known is Stretch. My life has been very interesting up to this point. Playing by the rules and against. Stretch and I have shared documentation about our successes and also the tough times that sometimes hit people living the lifestyles we do.
I've already posted the things that members really don't care about. For close to 15yrs I owned 3 successful restaurants as well as running a very successful illegal enterprise that I paid dearly for but wouldn't trade as the things I've done and seen and places I;ve been occurred because of the life I was living.
Nobody knows you? Not in the community. Not in real life. I'm well known respected and liked by board owners staff and members of boards you wouldn't be allowed to join never mind be given status and all the perks the go along with that.
There are members that even now trust me with sums of cash it takes you a month in sales to see. My name is golden on line and in real life, lame.
You can tell. You know I speak the truth. Educated...sure to a degree. My sister and mother are both PHD's and my father a graduate from a prestigious east coast school with a degree in physics. I was a bit bored with school and by the age of 22 owned my first restaurant and was doing things men 10ys my senior hadn't taking a shot at.
As far as my physique, I don't put much stock in loud mouth bottom feeding lames that don't have a pic posted anywhere. I've never competed and never aspire to. I'm more of an athlete excelling on both sides of the football as well as baseball basketball and any other physical endeavor. My body is utilitarian in design and upkeep. I don't claim to be a killer but you should have confidence and know what you're doing if you ever decide to do more than run that dick garage of yours. Have proof of this as well. I'd go to great lengths to put one of these size 13 boots up your backside. I'm very confident about the type of person I'm dealing with when I address you. I'm pretty sharp. You've already lost in your mind if meeting me was something you couldn't avoid. And you and I both know, this false bravado is just that. If it was about cash you'd have a plan to stay safe and you wouldn't be wide open and fancy free without a care in the world. But you don't. You can't stop. You love reading about the guy you pretend to be and the man members allow you to be as long as they are getting what they want from you.
You fold and get cracked it's all over and it's only you. Just as it's always been. Lonely and a nothing life, You can't give it a rest even knowing it will last longer, You are a weak man. That hasn't changed and you've insured that your little success goes no farther than right here. You were a grunt and the only way you escaped that was to steal it. Once this gig is up it's back to obscurity. You may as well do yourself. Kill yourself. You're not enjoying this ride now. You don't have time and you don't trust anyone and u don't have anyone anyway. No pussy either. That's a given. You know damn well I;ve got more than I can use. You are a lowlife bottom feeder that hates men like myself who have that thing that makes them successful at whatever I do. I'm the topic of conversation in a pretty big and successful crowd. You live in the shadows. Fuck yourself lame.