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[Axle Labs]

So @Axle Labs will you be sending your gear for further testing then? If so when?

Metals testing? Which testing?

List out the testing you desire and we will do it as long as @janoshik does that testing.

 

[Axle Labs]

I think starting off with sterility testing would be a great start for you. I've mentioned, with your past of cross contaminated gear, it would be a good thing to see your improvements to your process cemented by testing.

@janoshik do you do “sterility” testing? If so, I’m down to add this in.

We’ve done the standard testing + Guaiacol testing so far.

 

[Axle Labs]

March 2024:

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Mar 7, 2024

@Axle Labs you appear to have recovered nicely on here. Persistence and determination pay off. Congrats.

Let me know when you get the data from Jano if you please.

Will be posted soon as we get it. Those metals tests take 3-4 weeks.

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In this rare case, skip the testing Axle. You've shown yourself over and over to be dishonorable. You are an habitual liar. Can't be trusted at all.

Yet again, cherry picking. Read the rest of the thread and how @janoshik lost the sample. This isn’t a stab at Jano btw. That is literally what happened.

 

[B Ware]

@janoshik do you do “sterility” testing? If so, I’m down to add this in.

We’ve done the standard testing + Guaiacol testing so far.

Bro, I think Jano gets that you want his attention. You can quit calling him. Hopefully this one doesn’t get lost in the mail or your dog doesn’t eat it.

 

[Axle Labs]

A old respected member. Him and a group of other guys got banned for vetting a source and taking it too far. Sucked as what they were doing was never against the rules until that moment but I understand they were warned and BBBG had actually caught a temp ban for it and then a perma ban later for continuing.

Anywho, times were different and this place was truly uncensored. You could run a source off pretty easily. Now if you consistently badger a source with the same message or name call you might catch a ban.

Except the point of contention right now is “Why aren’t you doing metals and sterility testing Axle?”

When we literally were told within this thread itself that people don’t want it. Scroll back in the thread.

The person requesting it was told by members to leave.

And I’ve said multiple times now we will do whatever testing if members want it and Jano can do the test.

We even did the testing for that single member and it was out of our control that Jano lost the sample we sent.

 

[readalot]

Yet again, cherry picking. Read the rest of the thread and how @janoshik lost the sample. This isn’t a stab at Jano btw. That is literally what happened.

I'm off ignore? Good luck explaining.

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Thursday at 6:56 PM

the memeber is readalot

He knows exactly what member and is caught in yet another lie. Look at the date he put me on ignore...


He knew I was here, knew I wasn't banned. And now pleads ignorance to all the testing that's been completed since he put me on ignore. Remember, this was Oct 2024. The metal testing sample that got misplaced was March 2024.

Unfortunately when you lie all the time it catches up to you. Hard to keep track of the lies and who you lied to. That's why it is a...

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[B Ware]

Except the point of contention right now is “Why aren’t you doing metals and sterility testing Axle?”

When we literally were told within this thread itself that people don’t want it. Scroll back in the thread.

The person requesting it was told by members to leave.

And I’ve said multiple times now we will do whatever testing if members want it and Jano can do the test.

We even did the testing for that single member and it was out of our control that Jano lost the sample we sent.

The issue is you said you would do it in the first place and failed to deliver and were aware he was temp banned. He has asked you numerous times since being back from his temp ban and you have repeatedly used the same excuse.

 

[readalot]

Yet again, cherry picking. Read the rest of the thread and how @janoshik lost the sample. This isn’t a stab at Jano btw. That is literally what happened

That's not the lie you have been caught in here today. No cherry picking.

 

[Axle Labs]

The issue is you said you would do it in the first place and failed to deliver and were aware he was temp banned. He has asked you numerous times since being back from his temp ban and you have repeatedly used the same excuse.

We didn’t re-send a sample because people didn’t want the testing. Then he was asked to do the testing himself and avoided the question. I muted him after that.

Thats why I’m again asking if people want the metals testing. Because the only person who wanted it before was that guy (who I still have muted).

 

[readalot]

who I still have muted

Then how did you see this and respond just now?

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Thursday at 8:36 PM

March 2024:


In this rare case, skip the testing Axle. You've shown yourself over and over to be dishonorable. You are an habitual liar. Can't be trusted at all.

Yet again, cherry picking. Read the rest of the thread and how @janoshik lost the sample. This isn’t a stab at Jano btw. That is literally what happened.

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[SwolieGuacamole]

Scope:

1. Hplc Purity
2. GCMS
3. Expanded metals list
4. Endotoxins
5. Residual solvents
6. Sterility

@Axle Labs

 

[readalot]

Next, rip van winkle here will tell you all he wasn't aware if these threads...

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Thread 'Readalots Enhanced Testing'

Oct 7, 2024

Hey guys, Its Dirthand... I am starting this Thread for @readalot . This man has been going around this forum preaching this that an the other about his concerns and mission of heavy metals and crap in the gear that we use. I never really read much of the stuff he wrote but what i always noticed is that he always catch a lot of hell for. He always seem to take the criticism without resorting to low class retaliation of personal insults and so i kind of respected that. Anywho after his sabbatical (or whatever) he came back to the forum and seen that i had been making some gear and...

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Thread 'Enhanced Testing Database'

Nov 14, 2024

Thread to track all of the great vendor / member activities in the enhanced testing arena. The other thread covers only Projects 1 - 3 (demonstration); vendor/member activity can be found.

Slowly a surveillance database for raw AAS and GH quality/impurities can be built for additional testing (additional to API purity, HPLC, etc ). If nothing is found then that's a great result to track as well. The data will be available for those interested.

Scope:

1. Hplc Purity
2. GCMS
3. Expanded metals list
4. Endotoxins
5. Residual solvents
6. Sterility

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[accidentaljedi173]

@janoshik do you do “sterility” testing? If so, I’m down to add this in.

We’ve done the standard testing + Guaiacol testing so far.

He does sterility testing. Other sources are already doing it. It's become the new standard at this point. I think you should log in more and look around at what's happening.

 

[Axle Labs]

I think starting off with sterility testing would be a great start for you. I've mentioned, with your past of cross contaminated gear, it would be a good thing to see your improvements to your process cemented by testing.

How would sterility testing address different compounds being intermixed? The improvement for that was brought by removing peristaltic pumps and having individual bottle top vacuum pumps for each compound. And we documented that in the thread and tested the compounds to show it.

I am fine with doing sterility testing if that’s something Jano does. I haven’t seen this from any other source so I wonder if that’s a thing.

 

[Axle Labs]

He does sterility testing. Other sources are already doing it. It's become the new standard at this point. I think you should log in more and look around at what's happening.

I didn’t know that. Thanks. We’ll do it then. I’ll shoot him an email.

 

[readalot]

I haven’t seen this from any other source so I wonder if that’s a thing

 

[accidentaljedi173]

How would sterility testing address different compounds being intermixed? The improvement for that was brought by removing peristaltic pumps and having individual bottle top vacuum pumps for each compound. And we documented that in the thread and tested the compounds to show it.

I am fine with doing sterility testing if that’s something Jano does. I haven’t seen this from any other source so I wonder if that’s a thing.

My point is that if your cross contaminating compounds. Then what other corners are being cut? You addressed the issue but it doesn't prove that your doing it in a sanitary way. I don't think your a dumb guy, so why do I have to spell this out?

 

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[Axle Labs]

My point is that if your cross contaminating compounds. Then what other corners are being cut? You addressed the issue but it doesn't prove that your doing it in a sanitary way. I don't think your a dumb guy, so why do I have to spell this out?

Sure, that’s fair.

I didn’t know other sources were doing additional sterility testing also. I’ll look around.

We’ll get that going also.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Sure, that’s fair.

I didn’t know other sources were doing additional sterility testing also. I’ll look around.

We’ll get that going also.

@SwolieGuacamole, @readalot

Both of these members shared a list of additional tests that sources have been following.

When should we expect you to initiate this?