OldmemberNewcuenta
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Whats going on everyone. quick question. Would something like this work in the place of an autoclave for steilizing vials etc?
I ask because I can get one for free
I ask because I can get one for free
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Baby bottle washers to sterilize?
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narta
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No
Enzo1a
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Enzo1a
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What about to clean beakers and glass stirring sticks etc, cos doesn’t fully need to be sterile before filtering right?
OldmemberNewcuenta
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Why? Im curious as I often get products for testing and if I can repurpose something I like to do so.
This item claims to sterilize, high water pressure, 212 degree f steam, 140 degree f drying. would the drying heat need to be hotter to properly sterilize?
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narta
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There is a difference between sterilizing something that goes through gut acids and something that goes directly in muscle tissue.
If you can't comprehend simple differences like that it would be better to abstain from home brewing anything injectable
If you can't comprehend simple differences like that it would be better to abstain from home brewing anything injectable
OldmemberNewcuenta
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My question was, would it work, and why not? The shot at the end isn't needed. "if you can't comprehend" hence the reason I asked the question, so I can get some comprehension. are you interested in actually providing an answer for the question, or just wagging your finger at us idiots?
narta
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The latter, when the people at the end of my finger don't do enough research to understand what is the fundamental difference between an autoclave with 15psi pressure and a baby bottle sterilizer.
Cereal masturbator
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Charles Darwin is turning in his grave. I regularly see you interfering with natural selection, enough is enough
narta
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Yeah, I am a firm believer of "Remove warning labels from anything and let nature take its course" moto, but sometimes the human in me gets aways and starts typing on the keyboard.
OldmemberNewcuenta
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Yes because insinuating you’d rather see someone get hurt or die is such a great thing for a message board looking to cause harm prevention. You’re clearly one of the cool kids. Some of y’all kill me. Unfortunately, for you, not in the way you wish
A person can search all day but it depends on their understanding of what they get from that search. My understanding lead me to believe it would be the heat, the fact that you stated 15psi leads me to believe it’s the pressure. I appreciate that. That said, it was indeed a simple question because I had action at one in the moment. There are many differences between the two machines, how would I know which was the determining factor of why one wouldn’t work over the other. Clearly they don’t have to be identical in every aspect, otherwise we wouldn’t have folks recommending pressure cookers. So it’s nice to know WHY one wouldn’t work, so I’d know for the future.
Now, if you didn’t want to provide more than the simple no as you originally stated, you could have simply kept it at no. Definitely no need for your buddy to insinuate he’d actually want someone to be dead or hurt based on not knowing the pressure being a more determining factor in the sterilization.
Some people build computers but can’t build an app. Some can build an app but not a computer, but there was a time that my grandmother couldn’t even find the power button. Should I have told her to piss off because she chose not to get on the internet and do the research on a computer she couldn’t even power on to find out how to work it? That’s rhetorical. If you cut a cat nail too deep Although it may still look like just more of the nail, it’s like cutting their bone. Many don’t even know this and do it mistakenly because they don’t realize that there is a proper way to do it. They wouldn’t even know to search for that specific info as it seems simple enough to cut their nails like we would ours.
There are many who are more knowable than me on many subjects, and I more knowledgeable in other subjects than those same individuals. I know this. And I know we often times learn, and understand things differently. I can help, or not, but I wouldn’t ridicule or let them know I’d rather see them die or be hurt because of their lack of understanding of something that I do have understanding of.
Simplicity
Sorry for the rant, you can feel free to ignore any question I may have in the future if it’s too foolish of a question for such a knowledgeable individual to waste their time giving understanding on. Blessings
nullandvoid
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I don't understand the need to play gatekeeper with information. So if someone searches in the future, they'll just find this needless flexing. Grok was more forthcoming:
"A baby bottle washer isn’t designed to match the precision and intensity of an autoclave, which uses high-pressure steam at temperatures around 121°C (250°F) to sterilize equipment like vials. Baby bottle washers typically rely on hot water, detergent, and sometimes mild heat cycles—think 70°C (158°F) max for most models—aimed at cleaning rather than achieving the medical-grade sterilization needed for vials, especially if they’re for lab or pharmaceutical use.
That said, if you’re in a pinch and the vials are for something non-critical (like a home experiment, not injecting anything), a baby bottle washer could reduce microbial load somewhat. Studies on household sterilization—like those looking at bottle sanitizers—show they can kill common bacteria (e.g., E. coli, Staphylococcus) with heat and cleaning agents, but they don’t guarantee the log-6 reduction (99.9999% kill rate) of an autoclave. Autoclaves hit that mark by combining pressure, steam, and time (usually 15-30 minutes), while bottle washers lack the pressure component and often run shorter cycles.
You’d also need to check the washer’s temp and cycle details. If it can sustain 100°C (boiling point) for 10+ minutes, you’re closer to basic sterilization—but still not autoclave-level, especially for spores or heat-resistant pathogens. Vials would need to be heat-safe too, since some plastics warp above 80°C.
For anything serious, it’s a no-go. For casual use? Maybe, if you tweak it and accept the risks. What’s your setup and goal with the vials? That’ll narrow it down."
"A baby bottle washer isn’t designed to match the precision and intensity of an autoclave, which uses high-pressure steam at temperatures around 121°C (250°F) to sterilize equipment like vials. Baby bottle washers typically rely on hot water, detergent, and sometimes mild heat cycles—think 70°C (158°F) max for most models—aimed at cleaning rather than achieving the medical-grade sterilization needed for vials, especially if they’re for lab or pharmaceutical use.
That said, if you’re in a pinch and the vials are for something non-critical (like a home experiment, not injecting anything), a baby bottle washer could reduce microbial load somewhat. Studies on household sterilization—like those looking at bottle sanitizers—show they can kill common bacteria (e.g., E. coli, Staphylococcus) with heat and cleaning agents, but they don’t guarantee the log-6 reduction (99.9999% kill rate) of an autoclave. Autoclaves hit that mark by combining pressure, steam, and time (usually 15-30 minutes), while bottle washers lack the pressure component and often run shorter cycles.
You’d also need to check the washer’s temp and cycle details. If it can sustain 100°C (boiling point) for 10+ minutes, you’re closer to basic sterilization—but still not autoclave-level, especially for spores or heat-resistant pathogens. Vials would need to be heat-safe too, since some plastics warp above 80°C.
For anything serious, it’s a no-go. For casual use? Maybe, if you tweak it and accept the risks. What’s your setup and goal with the vials? That’ll narrow it down."
narta
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It's not gatekeeping per se, it's the lack of basic effort that gets me with these questions.
Injecting something in your body is dangerous a priori. If you want to homebrew it you need to do proper research, not 10' Google search, days and weeks of reading and comprehending what you are about to start. Understanding the basics BY YOURSELF adds a layer of proper precautions by itself and lessens the points that may need clarification in the future.
Give a man a fish, he will be fed for a day. Teach him how to fish, he will never starve.
Knowledge is not given for free, it requires effort and time. So one needs to dedicate the time needed to learn how to properly homebrew. If he simply relies on others to do the legwork for him he should either compensate them for their time or be ready to face the consequences of wrong answers
Injecting something in your body is dangerous a priori. If you want to homebrew it you need to do proper research, not 10' Google search, days and weeks of reading and comprehending what you are about to start. Understanding the basics BY YOURSELF adds a layer of proper precautions by itself and lessens the points that may need clarification in the future.
Give a man a fish, he will be fed for a day. Teach him how to fish, he will never starve.
Knowledge is not given for free, it requires effort and time. So one needs to dedicate the time needed to learn how to properly homebrew. If he simply relies on others to do the legwork for him he should either compensate them for their time or be ready to face the consequences of wrong answers
OldmemberNewcuenta
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Broke it allllllll the way down. much appreciated on the information. Who knows how many others will find this thread in the future. hopefully they make it to this comment
Cereal masturbator
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Give it a rest whoppie Goldberg it was a fucking joke. Nobody’s gatekeeping answers, you got lightly teased, plenty of suppliers on here sell aromasin, have a look because with that level of feminine sensitivity I’m assuming you have tits by now
Ghoul
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This is a harm reduction board you malevolent asshole.
@Spaceman Spiff has repeatedly said anyone who doesn't test their raws before brewing, like you, is an idiot. I'm sure he still feels that way, right Spiff? Narta brews without testing raws, a genuinely high risk behavior I'm sure you don't condone.
And while you bleat on about sterility of injectables requiring a higher standard, which is true, you stand by guys like Spiff and Alex who claim the high rate of failed sterility tests for peptides doesn't matter, sterile filtering those is "bubble boy nonsense", because there aren't reports of hospitalization, a great way to measure safety.
OldmemberNewcuenta
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I appreciate your input
OldmemberNewcuenta
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All of this useless typing you keep doing, you could have provided an answer to the question. i see now, you just rather troll. Probably about the only thing you have going for yourself. I'll leave you to it.
Ghoul
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The problem is you don't know if that machine is working up to spec, or what contaminants are present that could be redeposited onto whatever you're trying make sterile, like microscopic bits of food.
If you're only brewing for yourself get one of the cheap (and they are very cheap) autoclaves on Amazon and fill presterilized ready to use vials.
