Be Careful

[brutus79]

I have been doing a great deal of thinking lately- usually leads to my downfall in some way or another although I strive to ultimately be constructive in my musings for brief periods of time. Point? I am taking a moment to spell out what should be obvious.

This board is a wonderful place to meet like minded people with experience and knowledge that can augment and compliment our own. It is also the fucking internet. Compound this by factoring in that the discussion in this particular part of the board concerns the illegal AND revolves the ultimate corrupting evil (MONEY MUTHAFUCKA) and you have chum in these waters that attracts multiple undesirables including but not limited to police (LE) and bottom feeding scammers and scumbags.

The best thing to do is what I did- treat your low T legally under the care of a physician. Am I a holier than thou teabagger? Nope- years of treating my body like an amusement park limits what I can do to my body without terrible side effects- and I realized I trained to feel good... and that wasn't happening. That being said my personal health and goals are irrelevant in this public service announcement.

Absent those goals and cautions I urge you to abandon this "cops have better things to do" attitude and be fucking careful. Use tor. Use secured email. Protect your personal info like you protect your family. Don't buy gear here or online and think you are safe? Think again. You run your mouth to the wrong source, he loses thousands of dollars because you were slamming him AND you are easy to find? Guess what- these are drugs you are talking about and people die over way smaller sums of money than that every day.

These public sources have "born to lose" tattooed on their heads- they are like a crack dealer on a street corner with a neon sign that says "drug dealer" 20 feet high that keeps a ledger for when he gets busted. Think cops aren't interested in his big customers? We are talking about interstate drug trafficking here. Be smart. Nobody is your fucking friend when a snitching on a screen name is the only thing between him and five or ten years in federal prison.

I know, I know. You are too crazy, too bad ass to have anyone hunt you down and you don't give a fuck about prison because you are so hardcore. Cool story bro. Lots of guys I know have families and just want swole pecs at the beach- that ain't worth a broken home and five years to me, but to each his own.

Use the aforementioned tools at your disposal. Use different info and screen names to correspond with sources. Whatever floats your boat.

Lastly and what caused me to post this is the recent events with a certain golden boy who has fallen from grace... think before you give any identifying information to anyone for any reason. This is your life and you have no idea what kind of sick fucks lurk among us. Taking one of these superficial friendships "to the next level" can be very dangerous. Trust nobody completely on the internet folks- this is basic shit.

Carry on.

 

[GearGodess]

Amen. I think there were many valuable lessons learned...

Ps. You ARE pretty bad ass I must admit... always enjoy reading your posts

 

[Mr.B66]

I only wish the younger members would read this and take it serious. Look around in the underground and you will see these guys posting shocking info for everyone to see.

 

[biggerben69]

I just made a post in pharmacist's info collecting thread that spoke to the realities of online buying and selling of illegal products.
Brutus and I have been catching up and talking off the board since my return a few days ago. I've missed him and many other members.
Rest assured, there are REAL friends to be made here. The relationships carry out off line and into the real world once you've put your time in.
Brutus is right when he puts a conservative 80% of guys rolling on each other. I've seen sons that have put their father's away to save cut a couple of yrs off their sentence. Threats of 15 or 20yrs make people reevaluate their moral codes like you wouldn't believe.
The guys that cooperate still get time. It amazes me and infuriates me that a grown man, having been caught red handed doing what he knew was illegal, would ruin and forever alter another man's existence, and that man's family to take 18 months off a sentence he will have to ultimately serve whether he cooperates or not. The yards are full of rats.
I'm off track because I'm fresh out and still getting acclimated.
Putting layers between yourself and your source, if you're going to buy online, is the best thing you can do. Giving out your personal info to every source that comes along is not the smart thing to do.
Brutus mentioned TOR. It's a layer and our best bet when buying online. I was just reading a short time ago, that the feds have new software and brainiacs working to defeat the illegal use of the Onion.
It's ironic because it's our own government that funded and created and continues to fund TOR. It is a tool that is instrumental in getting real time on the ground reports of human rights violations by oppressive government's around the globe. Most recently, the events in Syria. The citizens in these countries if they are discovered exposing atrocities are quickly rounded up and imprisoned or silenced forever. TOR saves lives.
It costs a whole lot less for feds working cyber crimes to put together cases sitting at their desks than it does infiltrating groups on the ground. That's a fact. Computer crime is an ever expanding focus of the feds.
Please excuse my ramblings and obvious lack of focus. I'm rusty. Just getting back.
Brutus, eloquent as always. I still remember when you first logged on. You sat back some posting at times feeling things out. Extremely bright. Street and real world smarts. You were a quick study and you have an innate sense of right and wrong. Your moral compass is admirable. We've fought some good fights here along with the help of some other good brothers and chased some shitbags out of here. The Community is a better place when you're around. Hope you keep coming around. Thank you.

 

[Gramps]

Apparently I've been left out of the loop of current events. Where might I find more info of said golden boy? PM is fine if needed.

 

[A-a-Ron]

Well said, @brutus79 and @biggerben69. I would just add that when a crime takes place and it is linked to a computer, there are no misdemeanors. Also, there will always be a whole list of charges tacked on to the initial crime that you would never even consider.

 

[bickel29]

Well this is odd - not too many recent threads that Ben, Brut and myself all hung out in.

For the guys that have been around here for a while, you don't need to be told this - but for the newer members, I will offer the following advice when reading the above posts. The two gentlemen that made the two longest posts above me and said the most KNOW WHAT THEY SPEAK OF, they are both worth listening to. They know from experience.

There are not a whole lot of guys here I can vouch for, as most of the guys here these days are screen names to me. That was by choice. I got a little too comfortable around here, too lax with too many members via IM and email, etc, and had to dial it back some and tighten my presence here up.

But Brut and Ben are two guys I can vouch for as they are friends of mine away from Meso. My point? When they speak (okay, type) it's best to take them seriously.

Not to say that you have to take every word they say as gospel, but listen to what they are saying and weigh it accordingly when making up your own mind.

Stay safe and try to properly prioritize the risks you take. None of this is worth getting sloppy and careless and regretting it when it's too late.

 

[wedorecover]

Man I need a crash course on staying safe on the Internet for real thank you guys I guess I have some research to do

 

[wedorecover]

I only wish the younger members would read this and take it serious. Look around in the underground and you will see these guys posting shocking info for everyone to see.

Iv seen Excepted delivery date and all that

 

[GearGodess]

Apparently I've been left out of the loop of current events. Where might I find more info of said golden boy? PM is fine if needed.

I believe it starts on pg 262... that should get you up to speed...
Who is our biggest, most shredded member at Meso?

 

[pharmacist]

Words of wisdom!
I felt and will feel better knowing the 3 Awesome Members posting above. I personally had a lot to learn from them and it seems I still am.

Best Regards. Its a joy to see you all in the same thread

 

[brutus79]

I sure didn't mean to imply that real friendships can't be made here- some of my best friends in real life are right off this very site... @Millard Baker created a wonderful place for us and continues to let us make with it what we choose. With great freedom comes great responsibility- in the words of inspeckta dek- protect ya neck.

@biggerben69 , @bickel29 , @CensoredBoardsSuck , @Dr JIM , @mands , @Docd187123 , @greenddog1 , @ironwill1951 , @insertnamehere , @Masters Power , @johnnyBALLZ , @FuriousWO , @pmac928 are some of the most solid guys I know. I missed a few- but other than that I might see you in the street, but you don't know me.

 

[A-a-Ron]

Great all around advice. A friend and I were talking about the Internet the other day as it pertains to online dating. The Internet can be great in that you can really speed things up (likes, dislikes, typical first date stuff), so it can create a comfort level quickly. However, nobody is ever going to throw out there that they are crazy as shit. I'm sure that applies here somehow, as well.

 

[brutus79]

Great all around advice. A friend and I were talking about the Internet the other day as it pertains to online dating. The Internet can be great in that you can really speed things up (likes, dislikes, typical first date stuff), so it can create a comfort level quickly. However, nobody is ever going to throw out there that they are crazy as shit. I'm sure that applies here somehow, as well.

Sure it applies. You can get fucked here just as easy as tinder my friend. Maybe easier lol.

 

[A-a-Ron]

Sure it applies. You can get fucked here just as easy as tinder my friend. Maybe easier lol.

I'm going to have to borrow that one if you don't mind. Have a great one, Brutus!

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Seems when I showed up here all of this was unspoken and understood, see a new guy slippin pull him aside and show him the ropes. When guys gave me advice I listened, and was thankful. Members were way more wary to discuss things openly, even security measures and SOPs weren't openly posted for all to see as to not tip off how someone may get things done.

PI22 regularly posted tech advice/articles, even offered contract consulting and tools. Some members just cant comprehend that their actions can have implications on others. Dont be a liability to the community...we have enough dead weight round here.

 

[bickel29]

Sure it applies. You can get fucked here just as easy as tinder my friend. Maybe easier lol.

I'm going to have to borrow that one if you don't mind. Have a great one, Brutus!

Biggest difference being the worst case scenario between the two:

*A hook up on Tinder gone wrong might land you in the clinic

*A hook up on Meso gone wrong might land you in the clink

Slightly different variation on the spelling - world of difference in the meaning.

 

[Omegaflare]

Sure it applies. You can get fucked here just as easy as tinder my friend. Maybe easier lol.

As someone who is relatively new here I've had to learn some of these things I have to say thanks to your post I took some measures to better protect myself I have to much to lose to get busted for stupid shit.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

*A hook up on Meso gone wrong might land you in the clink

or worse...
There are far more unsavory creatures than LE one could encounter in the forest.

 

[bickel29]

Seems when I showed up here all of this was unspoken and understood, see a new guy slippin pull him aside and show him the ropes. When guys gave me advice I listened, and was thankful. Members were way more wary to discuss things openly, even security measures and SOPs weren't openly posted for all to see as to not tip off how someone may get things done.

PI22 regularly posted tech advice/articles, even offered contract consulting and tools. Some members just cant comprehend that their actions can have implications on others. Dont be a liability to the community...we have enough dead weight round here.

Well, to add to what you are saying, that 'Meso's Biggest Member' thread has concerned the hell outta me for some time now. WAY TOO MANY members posting WAY TOO REVEALING of pics of themselves.

Fortunately or unfortunately for me, my standing in my community, my gym and my job prevent me from advertising that I use illegal drugs. Simply putting a smiley emoji over my face would hardly keep people from the aforementioned areas of my life from identifying me on thinksteroids.com .

I just can't risk that - and that's not to mention the LE risks. Local LE can get pretty creative when they see you on thinksteroids.com rubbing your illegal drug use in their face.

I would like to think that our egos would get enough strokes from the attention we get from the girl behind the counter at Dairy Queen IRL, that we wouldn't also need to potentially risk ourselves chasing compliments from could-be Drag Queens online.