Beware of UncleZ

[Kamala]

OK Kamala - with all due respect - let me be VERY clear to you and all the members here ... "setting aside your comment of me being a politician - and waisting bandwidth."

You see - Z (along with other large suppliers) - count on many people to "respectfully" - run different parts of the business ... and by doing so - EVERY supplier in this industry has dealt with an asshole - who has "not" done their part ... "defying what they are paid to do."

The difference - "is" - how each business corrects the wrong.

From my personal conversations (PM's) - Z has always - always - and ALWAYS given every effort to make sure every customer has the best products in hand ... "always."

There was a time "about" 1 1/2 years ago when one of his GH suppliers screwed him and his customers ... "this was very common with every source at the time - that sucked."

When that happened - Z resent orders to everyone who was effected - and then covered the cost of me having blood tests on his product lines - (for about 6 months) - to make sure his customers were receiving the highest quality - ... this ended when his partner (Shaggy) left with 1.2 million in orders and closed shop.

You can still try and bash Z - but I don't buy it - here's why...

Z knows from my first orders ... "I've always posted my actual results."

He ALSO knows - I WILL publish and post any flaws within a product ... as he expects and promotes this to make sure his products are bringing the best results to each customer - which also creates repeat business.

If the products are not the best in the marketplace ... "you loos business - all products must be the customers first choice - and deliver the best results ... if you want repeat business"

Here's the thing for members to really understand...

I've been exclusive to Z for several years - simply because I have got to know him and understand he will always take care of his customer ... from my experience - if there is a mistake with an order, he OVER compensates the mistake ... "every time."

Having said that - I've seen people like Kamala - go out of their way to bash a legit person ... "for whatever their personal agenda is - is strange?"

Herre's the question for every member ... "when is the last time you've went out of your way - to give a bad review - on an experience ... "you did NOT have?"

I'm always willing to back up my statements - and help any customers who might have concerns...

MESO-RX is supper awesome - but I haven't been here as long as I have been on several other forums - however I can factually tell you this...

I have thousands of posts on other respected forums - and every post is written to help all members ... and have never waisted "bandwidth by jumping into a thread and "arbitrarily" spouting accusations on a business I have not used (as Kamala has) - ... "that's nonsense."

If anyone has anything that needs to be corrected from Z - please let me know?

Repo

Sorry Kamala - I know Z's a good man and respect his integrity ... I just can't see how - and why you would go out of your way to write posts on speculations?

I haven't made one single speculation about anything in this thread, if I did feel free to point it out lol.

And as far as why someone would go out of their way to bash a sponsor, well its because I don't like what you and your organization of scammer's do to this community...... and are trying to continue...... And if you or anybody else feels there is an ulterior motive on my part, as in I am either repping or selling a rival brand, feel free to bring forth some evidence of that.
Unlike yourself, I represent NOBODY........ I am an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY BASHER........ THAT MEANS IF YOU COME HERE LYING FOR THE PURPOSE OF STEALING PEOPLE'S MONEY, I WILL CALL YOU ON IT. TRYING TO DISCREDIT ME BY CLAIMING I REP? LOL, GIVE ME A BREAK YOU'RE GRASPING AT STRAWS TO DEFLECT ALL OF THE TRUTH THAT I'VE THROWN IN YOUR FACE.

And as far as the whole "Outlaw" situation, it went FAR further than what you're telling people here....... And its shit like this, flat out LYING, that makes me think nothing has or will ever change.
Z had every opportunity to "make things right", and all he did was lie and then wonder why people were pissed that they bought FAKED HG..... AND NO REFUND WAS EVER GIVEN, TO ANYONE...... HE WAS BOOTED FROM OUTLAW, WHY WAS THAT? IF HIS CUSTOMER SERVICE IS SO GREAT, AND HE CARES SO MUCH, WHY WAS HE BOOTED?

You're a joke, sorry for all of the caps but maybe if the letters are bigger you'll realize that instead of dancing around you should probably try to actually answer the questions.

If I have lied about anything here, then get a respected vet on here and correct me..... Not just another one of Z's zombies like yourself, that trolls around the boards paying off mods and board owners to help Z steal people's money.
I know how this game works, where scumbags like YOU fit into it, and that things will never change as long as people that know better (vets) let you get away with it.

As a community, the time is long past due to get the word out, the TRUTH out about guys like this.

 

[Kamala]

Kamala asked about steroid replicas. You did not even touch this subject.
We asked if Unclez got busted and spent months in jail and you said that he got scammed by a partner.
We asked questions and you made up your own and answered them.
Your agenda is to promote your boss business no matter what.

Did you forget that Unclez closed his shop after 2 men got arrested in Warsaw last year ?

Why the hell did you bring up some Shaggy fellow ? He run away with 1.2 million in cash ? Do you think that anyone will believe in this story ? It looks like UncleZ is the biggest steroid supplier ever. UncleZ was selling for 14 million a year. You guys must be completely crazy to keep posting this story on the open board.

Any Feds around ? Did you boss tell you to post it or this is your own agenda ? Does he know that you just brought some heave shit on him ?

Hey UncleZ you better fire this idiot Repo.

One can only hope that anybody that sees this thread will take the time to read it thoroughly and realize this.

I don't know and can't prove if Z himself was actually busted, or is on the run whatever........ But I will say that whoever is thinking about contacting these guys at all need to know the history behind Z, and what he was saying when his business went down a year ago....... This time last year he flat out said he was on the run, his warehouse with all of his stock was raided ( DEA was involved ), and if you had a pending order too bad because it was gone.

I've seen shit like this play out more than once, sometimes it was innocent but more often than not there's an ulterior motive..... IMHO there is something up here, don't know what yet but something isn't right.

 

[CleanSweep]

So UncleZ was the very first source I ordered from online (not enough research on my part obviously now, but not at the time). Low and behold, I didn't get my order, which I had already understood to be a risk I was taking and my purchase was relatively small. I've since found lots of good sources (Sciroxx being a go-to now) and don't need the order I lost.

But this whole thing really caught my interest, so I've emailed Z today. We'll see if I get what I ordered about a year ago, or get someone giving my door a knock. I'll let everyone know which it is (unless I disappear I guess) and I'll provide lab results on whatever it is I do get (if I can get computer savvy enough to post them as pdfs). No matter what happens it should be interesting for this debate...

 

[SkankHunt]

I'm in the same boat as you cleansweep. I ordere sustanon and never got it. Not even going to bother sending an email because its more of a risk and not really worth it.

 

[biggerben69]

I may have missed it, but what did Z say happened and why did he go dark if he wasn't busted? He's supposedly doing this resend campaign because people didn't get their orders for some reason?

 

[Kamala]

I may have missed it, but what did Z say happened and why did he go dark if he wasn't busted? He's supposedly doing this resend campaign because people didn't get their orders for some reason?

Apparently from what I've read he didn't go dark because he was busted, its because some mysterious guy named "shaggy" ripped him off for 1.2 million..... I guess the bust in Poland, and Z telling everybody it was his warehouse is all coincidence...... Its all because this "shaggy" dude ripped him off.

I wonder if "shaggy" at least bought scooby some snacks with all that loot?

 

[Repo]

Kamala asked about steroid replicas. You did not even touch this subject.
We asked if Unclez got busted and spent months in jail and you said that he got scammed by a partner.
We asked questions and you made up your own and answered them.
Your agenda is to promote your boss business no matter what.

Did you forget that Unclez closed his shop after 2 men got arrested in Warsaw last year ?

Why the hell did you bring up some Shaggy fellow ? He run away with 1.2 million in cash ? Do you think that anyone will believe in this story ? It looks like UncleZ is the biggest steroid supplier ever. UncleZ was selling for 14 million a year. You guys must be completely crazy to keep posting this story on the open board.

Any Feds around ? Did you boss tell you to post it or this is your own agenda ? Does he know that you just brought some heave shit on him ?

Hey UncleZ you better fire this idiot Repo.

OK Steroids 4 - I have been - or at least tried to be respectful to you and Kamala ... "Set Kamala aside - right now I'm talking to YOU!"

As far as replicas - I did not see that in this thread - so please forgive me for "skimming" - through the conversations - if replicas were a topic?

From my experience - I did hear some concerns with Z selling replicas...

I have also questioned this and wondered why he would offer a section on his site that offered replicas?

When I first got to know Z - I did ask him ... "why do you have a section on the site - that offered replicas?" ... it seems to be an issue with some members?

His response was that many other sources - "also" - offered replicas - and that the products have been proven to be just as good as the "original" product lines ... and it simply gives the customer - "with less funds" - a chance to make the best cycle possible."

This was very OPEN on Z's site for those who - "choose" - to order replicas...

Steroids4 ... "YOU are an absolute idiot!"

It's very rare - that I see a member on the forum with so little brains - but YOU are a rare exception .... "congratulations."

Yes - the feds are sniffing up all of our asses (you jack ass) - and my ONLY agenda is to try and analyze why ... "YOU - are so FUCKED UP!"

Repo ... "Have a Great Day Buddy!"

 

[Repo]

One can only hope that anybody that sees this thread will take the time to read it thoroughly and realize this.

I don't know and can't prove if Z himself was actually busted, or is on the run whatever........ But I will say that whoever is thinking about contacting these guys at all need to know the history behind Z, and what he was saying when his business went down a year ago....... This time last year he flat out said he was on the run, his warehouse with all of his stock was raided ( DEA was involved ), and if you had a pending order too bad because it was gone.

I've seen shit like this play out more than once, sometimes it was innocent but more often than not there's an ulterior motive..... IMHO there is something up here, don't know what yet but something isn't right.

Kamala - what you are saying is very cool...

There has been so much speculation about Z once he closed shop - it's been very sad...

Shit this INCLUDED ME - I've gotten to know Z and also wondered what happen once everything came to a stand still.

FOCK - I don't go out and back up Z on the forums like I do - so I can get my ass thrown in jail - if I thought he was a risk....

Gosh damn - I'm a 48 year old business man with a great career - who is happily married - and just trying to keep my body in the best shape possible.

Everyone here can take my posts as a way to trust Z - or a way to not trust him ... it's really that simple.

I will say this ... "from the heart."

I've been very fortunate to get to know Z over the last few years - and will tell you he is a very sincere person - who has always expressed and corrected his concerns - whenever a customer was not 100% happy with their order.

 

[Kamala]

OK Steroids 4 - I have been - or at least tried to be respectful to you and Kamala ... "Set Kamala aside - right now I'm talking to YOU!"

As far as replicas - I did not see that in this thread - so please forgive me for "skimming" - through the conversations - if replicas were a topic?

From my experience - I did hear some concerns with Z selling replicas...

I have also questioned this and wondered why he would offer a section on his site that offered replicas?

When I first got to know Z - I did ask him ... "why do you have a section on the site - that offered replicas?" ... it seems to be an issue with some members?

His response was that many other sources - "also" - offered replicas - and that the products have been proven to be just as good as the "original" product lines ... and it simply gives the customer - "with less funds" - a chance to make the best cycle possible."

This was very OPEN on Z's site for those who - "choose" - to order replicas...

Steroids4 ... "YOU are an absolute idiot!"

It's very rare - that I see a member on the forum with so little brains - but YOU are a rare exception .... "congratulations."

Yes - the feds are sniffing up all of our asses (you jack ass) - and my ONLY agenda is to try and analyze why ... "YOU - are so FUCKED UP!"

Repo ... "Have a Great Day Buddy!"

This is a bunch of bullshit regarding the "replicas".

Uncle Z only developed a section called "working replicas" after he was caught selling FAKED human grade product..... prior to this there was no such section.

It is also very important to note that prior to him being caught selling fakes, he was selling the faked HG at a much higher price than his UG lines...... So this whole business of Z offering a lower priced option is complete bullshit. In fact, Z could not understand why people were upset about the fakes...... MAYBE BECAUSE THEY PAID A PREMIUM FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A HG PRODUCT? As far as I know that could be the final fuck up that got him booted from OM.

Z had no "replica" section, until he was caught and booted from OM.

FACT.

 

[Kamala]

Kamala - what you are saying is very cool...

There has been so much speculation about Z once he closed shop - it's been very sad...

Shit this INCLUDED ME - I've gotten to know Z and also wondered what happen once everything came to a stand still.

FOCK - I don't go out and back up Z on the forums like I do - so I can get my ass thrown in jail - if I thought he was a risk....

Gosh damn - I'm a 48 year old business man with a great career - who is happily married - and just trying to keep my body in the best shape possible.

Everyone here can take my posts as a way to trust Z - or a way to not trust him ... it's really that simple.

I will say this ... "from the heart."

I've been very fortunate to get to know Z over the last few years - and will tell you he is a very sincere person - who has always expressed and corrected his concerns - whenever a customer was not 100% happy with their order.

That's all great, if you want respect stop lying and answer the questions that have been asked of you...... don't just make up questions and answer them yourself.

You need to stop lying.... get it? 1st and foremost, stop fucking lying.

 

[Stretch]

This is a bunch of bullshit regarding the "replicas".

Uncle Z only developed a section called "working replicas" after he was caught selling FAKED human grade product..... prior to this there was no such section.

It is also very important to note that prior to him being caught selling fakes, he was selling the faked HG at a much higher price than his UG lines...... So this whole business of Z offering a lower priced option is complete bullshit. In fact, Z could not understand why people were upset about the fakes...... MAYBE BECAUSE THEY PAID A PREMIUM FOHING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A HG PRODUCT? As far as I know that could be the final fuck up that got him booted from OM.

Z had no "replica" section, until he was caught and booted from OM.

FACT.

It sounds to me like Repo has only seen this positive side of Z. Like Z has always expressed concern over customer satisfaction, and a willingness to make customers happy. Hence, Repo and Z have a little internet friendship.

Understandable.


But Repo, won't you acknowledge the fact that it is possible Z has only shown you half of the story?

You admit your relationship with him started after the "replica" line was already in place. Other than what Z told you, do you have any idea WHY he started the "replica" line? Or do you just accept his word for it, because he has always seemed honest to you?

 

[biggerben69]

What Kamala says about the replica line is truth. It's called "Damage Control" on Z's part. He didn't call his customers names like Big D does, but it's just a way to try and smooth over the fact he was caught bullshitting.
I'm not sure how this member claims to have "Gotten to know" Z over the yrs? You're a businessman that gets personal orders? He's cordial to you and you've received your orders. I don't understand what you're trying to say here? You had a good experience. Are you saying the facts over the years that have come out and the vets that discuss it are full of shit?
I have no agenda nor does Kamala or lots of others I personally know. You're not making sense.

 

[studog]

Please, don't make me ask
the question again...

This is my first post on this forum but, I don't care who ya are that's funny.

 

[MythotiK]

I think he (Z) should send me some research products free of charge and I will finish this conversation once and for all..............

 

[Kamala]

It sounds to me like Repo has only seen this positive side of Z. Like Z has always expressed concern over customer satisfaction, and a willingness to make customers happy. Hence, Repo and Z have a little internet friendship.

Understandable.


But Repo, won't you acknowledge the fact that it is possible Z has only shown you half of the story?

You admit your relationship with him started after the "replica" line was already in place. Other than what Z told you, do you have any idea WHY he started the "replica" line? Or do you just accept his word for it, because he has always seemed honest to you?

I'm not being as nice about it because it is what it is..... repo's job is to go around the internet and get business flowing again no matter what...... just like Chino, just like LK.

 

[CleanSweep]

So I had pretty good back and forth with Z's folks, they didn't have what I ordered before, so they offered equal value in some other items. That part was pretty smooth. However, the final email from Z that I got the final line was:
"but before send it , please confirm shipping address"

And unfortunately I have a very healthy paranoia, so it might be a little bit before I decide to send that nugget, so me being able to confirm or deny how good this resend policy is might be delayed.

 

[Kamala]

So I had pretty good back and forth with Z's folks, they didn't have what I ordered before, so they offered equal value in some other items. That part was pretty smooth. However, the final email from Z that I got the final line was:
"but before send it , please confirm shipping address"

And unfortunately I have a very healthy paranoia, so it might be a little bit before I decide to send that nugget, so me being able to confirm or deny how good this resend policy is might be delayed.

I'd say if Z still doesn't have your shipping information that's probably a good thing..... However, if he doesn't still have it what is preventing people from trying to get free stuff? Anybody at all could send him an e-mail, tell him their order never showed up and get free stuff.

How is Z verifying the outstanding orders, did he keep the shipping information?

 

[biggerben69]

I'd say if Z still doesn't have your shipping information that's probably a good thing..... However, if he doesn't still have it what is preventing people from trying to get free stuff? Anybody at all could send him an e-mail, tell him their order never showed up and get free stuff.

How is Z verifying the outstanding orders, did he keep the shipping information?

All sketchy. In an SF thread I just posted the web sites that were in the Fed indictment of the scirroxx distributers. Don't know if Z sold there, but the feds have been monitoring those sites since the bust in 2011.
Kamala....are you getting my PM's?

 

[CleanSweep]

I'd say if Z still doesn't have your shipping information that's probably a good thing..... However, if he doesn't still have it what is preventing people from trying to get free stuff? Anybody at all could send him an e-mail, tell him their order never showed up and get free stuff.

How is Z verifying the outstanding orders, did he keep the shipping information?

I referenced my order number, it seemed like that gave whoever I talked to all the information they needed to know (with regards to what I ordered last time). Which is why it confused me with the shipping address, it wouldn't make sense if it wasn't already associated with that order. Which in turn made me feel like I would be "further implicating" myself giving it again...

 

[Kamala]

I referenced my order number, it seemed like that gave whoever I talked to all the information they needed to know (with regards to what I ordered last time). Which is why it confused me with the shipping address, it wouldn't make sense if it wasn't already associated with that order. Which in turn made me feel like I would be "further implicating" myself giving it again...

Z has been offline for almost a year now, if he still has any information pertaining to your order how do you know that LE hasn't already looked at it? Look at the whole sciroxx situation, what went into that investigation..... The DEA was involved in Z's bust, do you think this was minor? They know that he was conducting his business online, do you think they would be trying to crack his computers?
For all we know, the DEA is still investigating this and we don't know it..... Officially at least

I hope you read this thread, look at Z's past behavior and ask yourself if this is typical of him..... Its quite the opposite..... Z was pulling in millions a month, and now he's going to potentially re-send that much to make up for lost orders?

There is something very, very odd going on here. If I were you I'd write it off, that's better than the alternative.