Beware Sonoran quest

[ronin17]

so, I finally talked my buddy into getting blood work done. He got a total test, estrogen, and basic blood work.

He is on

100mg test c 1xwk Rx
200mg test prop 1xwk pog
600mg deca 1xwk pharmacom
300mg npp 1xwk pharmacom

His total test 7,500
His estrogen 689

Obviously the other compounds are scewing the results. I know for a fact those are the correct dosages. He wouldn't lie about it.

I thought this didn't happen? I'm going to have him do a test through labs md who contracts with Sonoran.

I feel terrible because now he has to explain to his doctor why his numbers are so high.

Any one else experience this??

 

[master.on]

so, I finally talked my buddy into getting blood work done. He got a total test, estrogen, and basic blood work.

He is on

100mg test c 1xwk Rx
200mg test prop 1xwk pog
600mg deca 1xwk pharmacom
300mg npp 1xwk pharmacom

His total test 7,500
His estrogen 689

Obviously the other compounds are scewing the results. I know for a fact those are the correct dosages. He wouldn't lie about it.

I thought this didn't happen? I'm going to have him do a test through labs md who contracts with Sonoran.

I feel terrible because now he has to explain to his doctor why his numbers are so high.

Any one else experience this??

Idk about sonoram
but these are perfectly possible T and E figures for T prop
Ain't sonoran a perfectly legal company?
But keep in mind that the tests aren't designed for such high, unnatural levels, so there will be a large error margin at high values
other than that, Why would they skew the results?

 

[Docd187123]

so, I finally talked my buddy into getting blood work done. He got a total test, estrogen, and basic blood work.

He is on

100mg test c 1xwk Rx
200mg test prop 1xwk pog
600mg deca 1xwk pharmacom
300mg npp 1xwk pharmacom

His total test 7,500
His estrogen 689

Obviously the other compounds are scewing the results. I know for a fact those are the correct dosages. He wouldn't lie about it.

I thought this didn't happen? I'm going to have him do a test through labs md who contracts with Sonoran.

I feel terrible because now he has to explain to his doctor why his numbers are so high.

Any one else experience this??

Either he is taking more test than he is telling you, his other gear is really test, or a fluke test but the latter is the least possible. Post the actual blood work.

 

[ronin17]

You don't believe nandrolone will screw results? What about the 800+estrogen? He would have sides like a mother fucker.
He gets sides at 60. And he has zero estrogen sides at .5mg Adex eod.

At 100mg test c and 200mg prop he should be 2000ng/dl max correct?

I'm not that familiar with prop. 7500 seems insanely high to me.

The only thing I can figure is the other gear is test or the prop isn't prop but e or c also. I know his dosages are correct.

He is switching to another prop and retesting next week. Very strange.

 

[Docd187123]

You don't believe nandrolone will screw results? What about the 800+estrogen? He would have sides like a mother fucker.
He gets sides at 60. And he has zero estrogen sides at .5mg Adex eod.

At 100mg test c and 200mg prop he should be 2000ng/dl max correct?

I'm not that familiar with prop. 7500 seems insanely high to me.

The only thing I can figure is the other gear is test or the prop isn't prop but e or c also. I know his dosages are correct.

He is switching to another prop and retesting next week. Very strange.

It might skew estrogen's but shouldn't for test, especially if LC/MS was done which was since he got a number over 1500. Even if the prop was e or c that's still an awfully high reading and likely not the cause

 

[ronin17]

It might skew estrogen's but shouldn't for test, especially if LC/MS was done which was since he got a number over 1500. Even if the prop was e or c that's still an awfully high reading and likely not the cause

I agree. He asked if it was lc\ms and they couldn't tell him. Gave him a number for thier head lab. I know labs md is.

Going to retest. Depending upon what that shows I will post the blood Work because it will be putting a or certain labs on blast. Ordering some kits as well. Fucking ugls.

 

[ronin17]

Speaking of which...which tests should he order? Labmax or roidtest?

 

[Docd187123]

Speaking of which...which tests should he order? Labmax or roidtest?

I don't believe in either so maybe someone else can answer.

 

[Docd187123]

I agree. He asked if it was lc\ms and they couldn't tell him. Gave him a number for thier head lab. I know labs md is.

Going to retest. Depending upon what that shows I will post the blood Work because it will be putting a or certain labs on blast. Ordering some kits as well. Fucking ugls.

It should be LC/MS bc the result wasn't >1500

 

[ronin17]

Gotcha. Didn't know that. Does lc\ms also mean it's estrogen sensitive? That 800+ Estrogen number can't be right. He would be bloated as fuck with titties or at least sensitive nips and a limp dick.

Zero high estrogen sides.

It's has to be mislabeled gear then. The new lab test was just ordered. We will see in about a week. I'm leaning towards the prop being something else.

 

[Docd187123]

Gotcha. Didn't know that. Does lc\ms also mean it's estrogen sensitive? That 800+ Estrogen number can't be right. He would be bloated as fuck with titties or at least sensitive nips and a limp dick.

Zero high estrogen sides.

It's has to be mislabeled gear then. The new lab test was just ordered. We will see in about a week. I'm leaning towards the prop being something else.

No, the estrogen panel could still be rosche-ECLIA. Was it total estrogens or estradiol?

 

[Bender83]

I know that TREN will cause elevated #'s on some E2 tests. Pretty sure that it always happens with a privatemd labs standard e2 test. I have heard mixed answers on weather or not it happens with the standard e2 test from labs md. Labsmd (and privatemd labs for that matter) does offer a sensitive lc/ms/ms e2 test for like $72.

I know your buddy isn't on tren, but I brought it up because maybe the skewed e2 readings has to do with being a 19 nor which deca and npp are.

Also that seems like a stupid high result for a total of 300mg of testosterone per week.

 

[master.on]

Gotcha. Didn't know that. Does lc\ms also mean it's estrogen sensitive? That 800+ Estrogen number can't be right. He would be bloated as fuck with titties or at least sensitive nips and a limp dick.

Zero high estrogen sides.

It's has to be mislabeled gear then. The new lab test was just ordered. We will see in about a week. I'm leaning towards the prop being something else.

Estrogen side effects can take a few weeks to become obvious
there are studies where supplemental estrogen INCREASES libido at first

High both Test AND Estro, too much to be coincidence
either your friend is using much more, taking prop just once a week thus a spike
or results are SOMEWHAT inaccurate at high values
supposing real values are half that: Test 3750 and Estro 400
your friend should keep estro in check

 

[mercury]

Speaking of which...which tests should he order? Labmax or roidtest?

roid test is some guy reselling something from his apartment for more money, he is only reseller

see roidtest color chart, drop test enan and plain oil it is the same color code, it does not show hormne inside

labmax is company which first brought it to the market and designed a couple of good tests like anavar purity test and has better price

 

[master.on]

roid test is some guy reselling something from his apartment for more money, he is only reseller

see roidtest color chart, drop test enan and plain oil it is the same color code, it does not show hormne inside

labmax is company which first brought it to the market and designed a couple of good tests like anavar purity test and has better price

@mercury is some guy shilling for labmax
search his posts
he mentions labmax every other post

 

[Docd187123]

@mercury is some guy shilling for labmax
search his posts
he mentions labmax every other post

This might be the first, and unfortunately only/last, intelligent post you've made on here. Congratulations.

 

[ronin17]

No, the estrogen panel could still be rosche-ECLIA. Was it total estrogens or estradiol?

Sorry for late response. It was total estrogen. 879.3 pg/ml.

 

[ronin17]

He stopped the prop but is doing 100mg a week of test c and still doing deca.
He will retest in two weeks.

I'm sure the prop was actually test c or e. That or the deca is test. What is weird is the high estrogen. At 50 his ankles swell and nipples get itchy.

He hasn't had any estrogen sides at 800+

 

[Marcus]

My first guess is that all compounds here are some form of test, maybe with tren considering those crazy estrogen numbers. Either your friend is lying or the lab is selling misadvertised products of all kinds.

Also, the most dangerous sides relates to high estrogen are those that are unseen... like issues with the heart and brain.