Big Bear Labs U.S. Domestic

[BigBearLabs]

I use geometric dilution for the orals, here’s the process I follow


Capping Anabolic Steroid or Supplement Powders

Next brew I’ll be making deca this coming week I’ll document the process for you.

I use sucralose for my mixer currently found it easier to work with. I use beet powder initially so it’s easier to see hot spots.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I use geometric dilution for the orals, here’s the process I follow


Capping Anabolic Steroid or Supplement Powders

Next brew I’ll be making deca this coming week I’ll document the process for you.

I use sucralose for my mixer currently found it easier to work with. I use beet powder initially so it’s easier to see hot spots.

Well shit, anyone can use the google. I want you to explain it so we all know that you know what you’re doing. Sparta Labs pulled this same shit and then their aromasin tested 0.64 mg. They obviously didn’t do it correctly.

If you master something you should be able to teach it. In your own words.

Walk it thru with measurements you use for a specific compound.

 

[BigBearLabs]

Take 5g aromasin you want 25mg caps.
You fill 12 caps and divide how much they weigh let’s say 357mg
You fill 12 caps with filler and divide how much they weigh say 667mg
You want 25mg pills so (25*667)/357=47mg
667mg-47mg= 620mg of filler per cap
5g aromasin divides by 25mg is 200 caps
200*620mg=124000mg of filler
Take your large mortar and pestle 5g aromasin 5g beet powder. Mix well. This part allows you to see hot spots and make a true homogeneous mix. Then add 10g filler mix. 20g filler and mix. So on and so on until completely mixed with all filler and any red spots are hot spots so keep on pestling away haha then cap

 

[Villain]

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Damn dude... it’s bad enough you dose your Tren A at only 75, you can’t even get that right! And yes, I know pharma allows for +/- 10%, but I would’ve been happier seeing it at 80 mg than 70.

 

[Villain]

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Geez man... 239 on what was supposed to be 250? Yeah yeah, +/- 10%. Test your damn raws before brewing or learn how to overdose. And if you say you overdosed, then your raws blow.

 

[BigBearLabs]

I’m overdosing now by 10% before I wasn’t. 10mg off is less than 5% off.

 

[Villain]

I’m overdosing now by 10% before I wasn’t. 10mg off is less than 5% off.

Have you ever tested your raws? I presume you didn’t test your raws before brewing and coming here. With all the conveniences we now have at our disposal such as cheap testing, why would you choose to trust your raws supplier’s purity reports? Are you aware that @SymBiotics ordered Levitra from his supplier and the fucker sent him Viagra that was only 48% pure? Imagine if he didn’t send that off for testing. There is literally no excuse to not test raws and it shows that a source really doesn’t give a damn about anyone or anything but their wallet.

 

[BigBearLabs]

When you buy from a source do you send out for testing or trust that they tested? Are you just worried about your wallet? You choose who you choose based on trust and sometimes a little leap of faith. With the test results it shows the raws are good to go but through the brewing process it’s off a little so using exact numbers isn’t going to work so now I overdose 10%. I’d rather deliver more than less. I could’ve not posted these results and overdosed then sent in the next batch. I choose to post and show that it was a little off and that I would and am now overdosing on my brews. I am sending in oral raws for testing and posting results when they come in. There has to be a trust between you and who you work with in any transaction. I reply quickly and answer all questions asked. Anyone who has done business with me can attest to my promptness and thorough answers.

 

[Zebedee]

Take 5g aromasin you want 25mg caps.
You fill 12 caps and divide how much they weigh let’s say 357mg
You fill 12 caps with filler and divide how much they weigh say 667mg
You want 25mg pills so (25*667)/357=47mg
667mg-47mg= 620mg of filler per cap
5g aromasin divides by 25mg is 200 caps
200*620mg=124000mg of filler
Take your large mortar and pestle 5g aromasin 5g beet powder. Mix well. This part allows you to see hot spots and make a true homogeneous mix. Then add 10g filler mix. 20g filler and mix. So on and so on until completely mixed with all filler and any red spots are hot spots so keep on pestling away haha then cap

Based on your hypothetical figures, your maths is correct for both the aromasin & the sucralose.

The problem though is that you have 3 compounds in there, not just 2 & consequently your figures are fucked.

Major schoolboy error there. I could list other issues with the process you've described, but I can't be arsed because I shouldn't be having to tell you how to do it properly & the not taking into account the volume of the colouring speaks volumes in itself.

 

[BigBearLabs]

The volume is taken out of the filler...I didn’t state that because I thought that would obvious.

 

[Villain]

How are they fucked? Can’t be arsed but can put a message up? That makes sense.

What the hell are you using garbage like sucralose for anyway?

 

[Zebedee]

Damn dude... it’s bad enough you dose your Tren A at only 75, you can’t even get that right! And yes, I know pharma allows for +/- 10%, but I would’ve been happier seeing it at 80 mg than 70.

IIRC the US FDA permitted margin of error is just 1% for industrial manufacturered products & 5% for anything knocked up by a compounding pharmacist.

 

[Villain]

IIRC the US FDA permitted margin of error is just 1% for industrial manufacturered products & 5% for anything knocked up by a compounding pharmacist.

Wow, only 1%?

 

[Zebedee]

The volume is taken out of the filler...I didn’t state that because I thought that would obvious.

If so then you're assuming there that the density for the beet powder & sucralose are the same.

As Villian just said also, there are better choices for a filler / diluent. Might want to do some reading on powder flow properties mate.

 

[BigBearLabs]

Sucralose mixes very well and bakers sugar isn’t good in case someone wants to do fasted training in the morning with their pills

 

[Zebedee]

Sugar as a filler / diluent?

Mate, you need to do some research that doesn't involve a not particularly well written & extremely simplistic guide to capping orals that was posted on an Internet forum a decade or so ago.

 

[BigBearLabs]

Volumetric dilution is the same ten years ago as it is now. I use the beet powder because it allows for a visual cue for how well you’re actually diluting and insuring you aren’t leaving hot spots.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Anyone who has done business with me can attest to my promptness and thorough answers.

[emoji57] Except for that one guy that had to remind you about his order...

 

[Zebedee]

Wow, only 1%?

Afaik, yes & that was info coming from a compounding pharmacist. Haven't researched it myself to be fair, but I have no reason to doubt them.

I've seen the 10% margin of error claim made hundreds of times of forums over the years & never questioned it myself for a long time. Daft really with hindsight as I've never seen anyone post anything to support that claim. It's also daft to assume that different countries have the same standards also really, in retrospect. Eg EU food regs on acceptable variances, foreign bodies etc are different to US.

 

[Zebedee]

Volumetric dilution is the same ten years ago as it is now. I use the beet powder because it allows for a visual cue for how well you’re actually diluting and insuring you aren’t leaving hot spots.

Yes mate, but my point was that it wasn't a particularly good guide in the first place. Quite a few things wrong with it. Was ok at the time, but things have moved on, better info is now available & to be fair to it, it was only ever intended as an introductory article for ad hoc homebrewers knocking up a small batch for themselves easily, cheaply & with ready at hand ingredients & kit, not wannabe lab owners mass producing.

Brownie points for using colouring, but it doesn't really compensate for poor practice elsewhere in the process. Like I said before, at best you've simply assumed that the beet powder was the same density as the sucralose, or at worse never even considered that it might throw your dosing out.