BioLogic Pharmaceuticals

So who are the lucky patient folks who recieved Norditropin for waiting a while and not saying anything? I'm curious how many people were taken care of.
Certainly not me, I'm still waiting...and being bitched at because I spoke up here.
I just wish I had got my shit before all this happened. It's not looking good, but I will eat my words if I ever do get my stuff. Hopefully I'll have to.
 
I think going public was part of a premeditated disappearing act. More $$$.

I think that is everyone's greatest fear right now. The excuses are piling and with Stretch AWOL for 11 days and Atilla the Hun unable to give any answers or a reasonble explanation, it certainly looks bad. Very bad.

Most scams follow similar patterns. Usually the source starts off with a big sale (or opens to the public), followed by excuses of shippers gone bad, family problems, etc, until finally the rep/frontman goes MIA. These are classic warning signs of a scam unfolding. Anybody that's been around long enough to have seen a few big scams will have alarm bells go off upon hearing these excuses. And as I said before, Stretch is well aware that this reaction will happen, so that makes his abscence even more disconcerting.

Some have mentioned the possibility of this being an LE issue. I've never believed that to be the case. It seems too coincidental for LE to pile on top of all the other issues. And Stretch is also reporting a big GH order wasn't received, so that's another problem. When you actually step back and look at the big picture, even Stretch's most ardent supporters will have to admit it doesn't look good.

Only time will tell what's going on but as mentioned earlier, Bio should be considered high risk right now.




Earlier, I said these problems started prior to Bio going public but it appears I was wrong. Bio went public on Nov 21.

We are open to the public!

From now until December 31st. anyone can place an order with us, NO REFERRAL NECESSARY,





It was on Dec 2 that Bio closed, supposedly due the theft of stock by a shipper.

Stretch said at that time, "we have contingencies in place to insulate ourselves from this very circumstance." Considering that people are still waiting for orders 5+ weeks later, it appears those "contingencies" were inadequate.

He also mentioned that he would be staying "away from the boards for the most part." Why? It seems like a poor time to disappear. His presence was even more crucial at that time.

Biologic will be completely closed for a few days/weeks.

A shipper has disappeared on us with a large amount of our stock. I've talked to some people who know him, and apparently he is living quite large since he stopped taking our emails.

Its unfortunate, but it was also expected. No one should be concerned that they won't receive their gear. Everyone who ordered/paid will get everything they paid for, we have contingencies in place to insulate ourselves from this very circumstance.

Our desire to take care of those who have already paid, and been subsequently delayed, is the reason for us closing for a few days/weeks.

We will not reopen again, until everyone who has paid has gear in hand.

This couldn't have come at a worse time. We are going to work hard to be open by the 14th for the $1,000 drawing..if not we will just reschedule.

Sorry in advance guys.

While we are closed I will, most likely, be staying away from the boards for the most part.





However, on Dec 4, Stretch said he was having family problems and that "it is a struggle for me to be on the boards."

Again, Stretch said this was "an expected hurdle that was planned for before it happened," and that "There is enough gear on hand to fill our current paid orders 3 times over. We were very well stocked for our month of being public; so in one way, this couldn't have happened at a better time." And again, it now seems obvious that Bio had NOT "planned" for anything "before it happened."

Stretch said Bio would not be reopening until Bio had filled all outstanding orders but that has proven to be false.

For some family reasons that couldn't have possibly come at a worse time, it is a struggle for me to be on the boards. I appreciate everyone who has defended us here. I will have someone here to represent Biologic, while I'm away, shortly. However, I got an email from a customer, asking if HE should defend us, so I figured I better say something. I understand a lot of people are, justifiably concerned, and that genuinely bothers me. I will try to allay your concerns as best as I can.



I knew this day would come.

So did I.

This is a growing pain, an expected hurdle that was planned for before it happened.

That being said, no amount of planning could have prepared me for the stress involved in the actual event.

There is enough gear on hand to fill our current paid orders 3 times over. We were very well stocked for our month of being public; so in one way, this couldn't have happened at a better time. On the other hand, it couldn't have happened at a worse time, since we were so busy.

We are working to figure out exactly when the shipper stopped working, and started stealing. I think a realistic estimate is that by the end of next week, we will have all of our backorders filled.

At any rate, we won't reopening, until everyone who has paid has received everything they paid for. Period.


I'm genuinely sorry for the stress this event has caused our customers, I doubt it's any comfort, but it has been equally(at least) taxing on me.

I won't be responding to PM's until my personal circumstances allow it
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I think that is everyone's greatest fear right now. The excuses are piling and with Stretch AWOL for 11 days and Atilla the Hun unable to give any answers or a reasonble explanation, it certainly looks bad. Very bad.

Most scams follow similar patterns. Usually the source starts off with a big sale (or opens to the public), followed by excuses of shippers gone bad, family problems, etc, until finally the rep/frontman goes MIA. These are classic warning signs of a scam unfolding. Anybody that's been around long enough to have seen a few big scams will have alarm bells go off upon hearing these excuses. And as I said before, Stretch is well aware that this reaction will happen, so that makes his abscence even more disconcerting.

Some have mentioned the possibility of this being an LE issue. I've never believed that to be the case. It seems too coincidental for LE to pile on top of all the other issues. And Stretch is also reporting a big GH order wasn't received, so that's another problem. When you actually step back and look at the big picture, even Stretch's most ardent supporters will have to admit it doesn't look good.

Only time will tell what's going on but as mentioned earlier, Bio should be considered high risk right now.




Earlier, I said these problems started prior to Bio going public but it appears I was wrong. Bio went public on Nov 21.







It was on Dec 2 that Bio closed, supposedly due the theft of stock by a shipper.

Stretch said at that time, "we have contingencies in place to insulate ourselves from this very circumstance." Considering that people are still waiting for orders 5+ weeks later, it appears those "contingencies" were inadequate.

He also mentioned that he would be staying "away from the boards for the most part." Why? It seems like a poor time to disappear. His presence was even more crucial at that time.







However, on Dec 4, Stretch said he was having family problems and that "it is a struggle for me to be on the boards."

Again, Stretch said this was "an expected hurdle that was planned for before it happened," and that "There is enough gear on hand to fill our current paid orders 3 times over. We were very well stocked for our month of being public; so in one way, this couldn't have happened at a better time." And again, it now seems obvious that Bio had NOT "planned" for anything "before it happened."

Stretch said Bio would not be reopening until Bio had filled all outstanding orders but that has proven to be false.

It doesn't look good thats for sure! I do have a dog in the hunt albeit a small dog so if it never shows back up I am ok with it. I just hate it for the people with big dogs in the hunt. I am still holding my breath that everyone is made whole.
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CBS, it is hard to argue with what is printed in black and white!
 
So where could stretch be that he is unable to get to the internet ? Even for ten mins ?

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Stretch is a known scam artist. He has been scamming boards since the early 2000's. He was behind Hercules Pharma. He was there with Bio to save the day. Now he's gone. I told you dumb fucks. Not one person listened. Where is your savior now? Stretch where are you? He's on here somewhere. Handy Manny? Bilogic1? Wake up people stretch won't be back as stretch. He will be back as someone else. He will repeat th same multi lab scam over and over and over.
 
So who are the lucky patient folks who recieved Norditropin for waiting a while and not saying anything? I'm curious how many people were taken care of.

Certainly not me, I'm still waiting...and being bitched at because I spoke up here.

I just wish I had got my shit before all this happened. It's not looking good, but I will eat my words if I ever do get my stuff. Hopefully I'll have to.


I'm the one that got the free nord pen. He offered it to me for being patient with my var tabs being delayed and then helping people on the forum reach him about order issues.
 
Ok, so 1 person, and Bio's bragging about it like we should all be so lucky.
I don't wanna piss this guy off, because I just want my shit. His attitude and remarks thru here and email make me doubt delivery because I have spoke up here and upset him, but either way I ain't sweatin' it. I don't think I've said anything out of line.
Wish Stretch (or his personality, anyway) was back! He'd make things all good.
 
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Earlier, I said these problems started prior to Bio going public but it appears I was wrong. Bio went public on Nov 21.
Not to say I told you so, but why would you argue with me without actually knowing when they went public.. Anyways good looking out CBS, I know you mean well, but you've gotta understand I was just stating a fact when I said problems that got out of hand, started after they went public. I wasn't in any way defending the company, just stating a fact. I think that is where you and Kubrick misunderstood me...

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Just a little update on Bio's MIC. He decided I needed shutting up so he sent a me and Dr Jim a threat through PM which I am going to post below.

I hope this serves as an example to everyone on Meso, and especially those who use sources, just how important it is to protect your identity from everyone, INCLUDING sources.

This is the kind of a source Biologic Pharmaeuticals really is.

biologicpharma said:
THere are things that you dont know. I do understand all of your frustrations. Im saying this beacause I am sure you were in on the HK buy. If not you are just another Dr. Jim stirring up shit. If you are let me know because we are going to have a little homecoming for Jim when Stretch gets back. I just dont know why Stretch is not read to voice on the board? The only thing I can think of is he feels bad because HK dicked him around for 3 weeks and is dreading all the questions on the boards. I have never even been on here and until recently and I see posts like yours. I really dont mind though. I think its cool because I know my world and I love it. But I do have a nice little surprise for you and Jim because of your posts. Give me a week. I made some contacts. Its going to be fun.
Keep talking shit and posting because if you stop it wont have the same effect..




CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Hello Stretch, hows the scam going.

You think you can scare me with your threats? You are a fucking JOKE.

biologicpharma said:
This is not Stretch bro... and they are not threats. Threats is if I just talk and do nothing.. That is a threat. Now go post what you just wrote to me on the board.. That is what I want you to do.. Talk on the board. k...I guess you are not a customer I take it.. ; ) We need guys like you though... I know you like an audience so post this on the boards ok... I will have some nice images for you... I do like the one on the beach for Stretch. Im sure he wishes he is there... You are funny, but I have something cool for you.. Not a threat.. Get over that.. Stop getting so aggressive..

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There you go Bio's MIC! What are you gonna do now tough gut? LMFAO!!!!!
 
This just absolutely sucks. Why would someone piss away an opportunity to make a ton of money, and piss away what they've already built, to just bow up and be an asshole? It just doesnt make any sense.
We can whip it out and see who has the biggest dicks, but why not just give people what they paid for?
Once again, I'm not trying to talk shit, Bio, but I just don't get whats going on here.
You told me you get alot more with being nice, well that goes for you too. But I shouldnt have to be nice to get my shit, even tho I'm a very nice guy anyway :rolleyes:
I'm going to bow out for a bit and see what happens so I don't vent any un-necessary frustration and piss this guy off enough to fuck me for sure. I'd be greatful for anything at this point.
 
Dr Jim forwarded me this PM from BIO and asked me to post it for him.

Again, this is a PM from Bio to Dr Jim.

biologicpharma said:
I just copied and pasted your post and sent to Stretch. We knew you could'nt keep quiet for too long. A long time ago a suggested a little special something for you on the boards, but he said you guys were cool. I let it go. I know you must think you are invincible huh? We have a nice little surprise for you. Keep talking and posting because it will make it even better... I want you to build it up. I wanted to do this long time ago but Stretch said you guys are totally cool and that he respected you. I think you will appreciate this one..
 
And with that my support for BIO is steadfast and unrelenting.

In fact I just sent them a PM to ensure I was FIRST in line for that next GH buy, LMFAO!!!
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Yeah Bio mic acts like a man with nothing to loose or gain. I will be chewing up some popcorn waiting for the big surprise and those pictures.

Yeah, maybe PC's dream will finally come true and he'll get to see me glistening in oil, wearing a 3 sizes too small speedo. [:o)]

And with that my support for BIO is steadfast and unrelenting.

In fact I just sent them a PM to ensure I was FIRST in line for that next GH buy, LMFAO!!!
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I hope you went for the pharm grade. MIC can give you a really good deal on it. He is a real big wheeler in the pharmaceuticals market, you know. [:o)]
 
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