MESO-Rx

Anabolic Steroids

BioLogic Pharmaceuticals

I was gonna order from em but then they went public so I just figured id wait till they went private again. Lucky me I guess.
 
I hit mugz up a few days ago. I wanted help finding out if Stretch had been cracked by LE. Guys have been hitting me up asking my take on the situation and my thoughts on what is going on with Stretch.
I've been telling all you guys the same thing...first, pure speculation is what you would call my thoughts. I don't have any info. If I did have information you guys would have it. The board and it's members are my first priorities.
I don't have any far fetched conspiracy theories. I also believe that the answer and the truth doesn't have any glamorous backdrop and doesn't involve legit business folks or any offshore bank accounts or organized crime syndicates.
My first thought and for some reason it continues to be what I believe to be what happened is that Stretch was busted and it is either connected to my second thought or it isn't but the other scenario is that a substance abuse issue warmed up.
I base my beliefs on how I've seen others fall over the years. If he was busted it is very possible that nobody would know for some time. If his boy BioMic(whatever?) didn't have any idea and didn't hear from him a Federal arrest could be kept very quiet for some time. If this was the case he more than likely would not be granted bail or bond and he also wouldn't have the means to post a bond as the feds would have frozen any and all assets and seized anything that he could liquidate.
His attorney could request a hearing to dispute the no bond requested by the gov't. If the judge decided he wasn't a flight risk there would have to be folks willing to and that had the means to put property up to secure his pre trial release.
If it was a local bust. For instance, Stretch was pulled over and some cocaine or a vial or 2 of steroids were discovered the search doesn't end with the vehicle. Especially when the person being detained and questioned has a past and a police record like Stretch or myself. He's got some serious paperwork. I've seen it and read through it. He's done the same with mine.
Your name is punched into the computer and your not so distant past comes up. The evening and the attention of the cops that pulled him over has just been reserved for him. If he was arrested while driving or while out on the town he will be processed and while he is cooling off in a cell his residence will be the subject of a search warrant obtained after his being arrested based on probable cause. They will have looked through his cell phone as well. Upon entering his dwelling who in the fuck knows what they will come across? Maybe a decent head stash of a few hundred tabs and 15 or 20 vials? Maybe some packaging materials?
FACT. A source that is busted more than likely goes down after his remailer is busted. A likely scenario is that the remailer was selling some of what he stole or some of what he was compensated with. The cops search his home and find the inventory. Remailer rolls on source.
Mugzy is a heavy hitter in the community. More than that, his reputation precedes him. Everyone that is plugged in knows of mugzy. I can only make the following statement about maybe 2 or 3 people that I have had the privilege of meeting in my years wandering the planet. Mugzy is beyond reproach. He owns several boards and is on the side opposite of OLM and ology. I'm lucky that he makes time to answer my pm's and proud to be a member in good standing and with status on the boards he owns. He's the type of leader that could order me to walk into a battle where certain death seems the only outcome and would do so eagerly knowing, but not understanding, that it was the right thing to do.
 
I have to work away for a while, don't get online much, and come back to see this.

Sad thing is, shit like this isn't uncommon.

I hope it works out for all involved.
 
biggerben69 said:
My first thought and for some reason it continues to be what I believe to be what happened is that Stretch was busted and it is either connected to my second thought or it isn't but the other scenario is that a substance abuse issue warmed up.
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The idea that Stretch was busted and in is jail was a very plausible explanation until we heard from Bios MIC, who said he has been in contact with Stretch as recently as last night. The drug use scenario is still a possibility, though.



An interesting bit of information concerning the GH group buy is this post from Stretch on Dec 4. Stretch stated the GH would be landing (from HK) with a "highly active, veteran member of this forum."

Stretch said:
It is a valid question.

The GH is being shipped to a different person, for exactly this reason.

The group buy's were always different from Biologic. I always wanted the two to be viewed separately.

The GH is on the way, it will land with a highly active, veteran member of this forum, and then he will forward it directly to one of the owners of Biologic, NOT a shipper. That owner will handle the forwarding of the GH to those who paid. I would be just as worried as you guys are if I were in the same situation. But I sure as hell appreciate the support from those that gave it.
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As we now know, that shipment was supposedly sent to the wrong receiver. Stretch posted that himself on Dec 11 (that post is below).

Now we are getting somewhere!

Is there a "highly active, veteran member of this forum" that can confirm he was to receive that order from HK?

At this point, this supposed "veteran member" has nothing to lose and I see no possible reason why he would not come forward and confirm Stretch's story.

It seems to me, that unless this "veteran member" comes forward to corroborate Stretch's story, we'll have our answer.



Stretch said:
We took a hit today guys.

In the interests of openness I am just copy/pasting my conversation from today with HK. The format is; my original message on the bottom, with Homer's reply in the middle, and my most recent reply at the top.



Homer. I am very sorry. Jeff already sent the package back.

Jeff is an idiot. He is a very scared guy.

On the last order, he was very frightened. He took 7 days just to send me the products after they arrived to him. He is a bitch.

After he was so frightened last time, I told him, I would never send
another package to him. He is very angry now that another package arrived
at his home, he will not accept it. I'm very sorry. I wish I could do
something.




hi bro,

oh shit my mistake. i cut and paste the wrong addy to my shipper

Jeff ******
***** ******
******, **.,*****


is there anyway you can ask jeff to receive the pack. i can pay extra for any
inconvenience.

let me know what we can do to salvage this pack

this will be a big loss if this pack is sent back to *****

let me know

thank you
best regards
homer kahn





>HOMER!!
>
>Big problem!
>
>I believe you shipped to the wrong address. Package was refused.
>
>On my old order....
>
>My previous order of 4000iu. I gave you an address for Jeff ******** in
>Florida.
>
>For THIS order I gave you **** ****, who is also in Florida.
>
>Well, Jeff ******** just called me and he is very angry. He told me that
>a package just arrived at his home, he sent the package back. I told Jeff
>that no package should be coming to him, and I have no idea what is going on. He is very angry at me.
>
>Can you tell me what happened?
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The post below is another interesting post Stretch made on Dec 11. I thought it very odd at the time and actually commented on it. When the GH didn't arrive on time, Stretch was very concerned that people were going to think he was stealing from them, so he offered to let a member who was "trusted by the community" log into his email account to confirm he was telling the truth.

I thought it was such a reckless thing to do, I never really believed Stretch was serious about it in the first place, but I posted anyway, advising against it.

Looking back, Stretch was HIGHLY trusted at that time and he knew it. Why was he so concerned about being accused of stealing?




Stretch said:
We enjoy working with HK because if/when mistakes like this happen, he fixes them.

If anyone thinks I am playing games with them, I wouldn't be opposed to allowing someone who is trusted by the community to log into my email account themselves, and look at the emails between myself and Homer.

Obviously we all know that if I was stealing, and this was an attempt to buy more time, I could just fabricate a conversation and pretend to copy/paste onto MesoRx. That's not what's happening. I think allowing someone, who knows HK's address, to view the emails would put any of those fears to rest. I'm open to the idea if someone requires it.
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I'm not at liberty to name drop, but I can confirm that a member of the forum recently received 25 kits from the HK buy and was waiting for a second shipment.
 
biggerben69 said:
I hit mugz up a few days ago. I wanted help finding out if Stretch had been cracked by LE. Guys have been hitting me up asking my take on the situation and my thoughts on what is going on with Stretch.
I've been telling all you guys the same thing...first, pure speculation is what you would call my thoughts. I don't have any info. If I did have information you guys would have it. The board and it's members are my first priorities.
I don't have any far fetched conspiracy theories. I also believe that the answer and the truth doesn't have any glamorous backdrop and doesn't involve legit business folks or any offshore bank accounts or organized crime syndicates.
My first thought and for some reason it continues to be what I believe to be what happened is that Stretch was busted and it is either connected to my second thought or it isn't but the other scenario is that a substance abuse issue warmed up.
I base my beliefs on how I've seen others fall over the years. If he was busted it is very possible that nobody would know for some time. If his boy BioMic(whatever?) didn't have any idea and didn't hear from him a Federal arrest could be kept very quiet for some time. If this was the case he more than likely would not be granted bail or bond and he also wouldn't have the means to post a bond as the feds would have frozen any and all assets and seized anything that he could liquidate.
His attorney could request a hearing to dispute the no bond requested by the gov't. If the judge decided he wasn't a flight risk there would have to be folks willing to and that had the means to put property up to secure his pre trial release.
If it was a local bust. For instance, Stretch was pulled over and some cocaine or a vial or 2 of steroids were discovered the search doesn't end with the vehicle. Especially when the person being detained and questioned has a past and a police record like Stretch or myself. He's got some serious paperwork. I've seen it and read through it. He's done the same with mine.
Your name is punched into the computer and your not so distant past comes up. The evening and the attention of the cops that pulled him over has just been reserved for him. If he was arrested while driving or while out on the town he will be processed and while he is cooling off in a cell his residence will be the subject of a search warrant obtained after his being arrested based on probable cause. They will have looked through his cell phone as well. Upon entering his dwelling who in the fuck knows what they will come across? Maybe a decent head stash of a few hundred tabs and 15 or 20 vials? Maybe some packaging materials?
FACT. A source that is busted more than likely goes down after his remailer is busted. A likely scenario is that the remailer was selling some of what he stole or some of what he was compensated with. The cops search his home and find the inventory. Remailer rolls on source.
Mugzy is a heavy hitter in the community. More than that, his reputation precedes him. Everyone that is plugged in knows of mugzy. I can only make the following statement about maybe 2 or 3 people that I have had the privilege of meeting in my years wandering the planet. Mugzy is beyond reproach. He owns several boards and is on the side opposite of OLM and ology. I'm lucky that he makes time to answer my pm's and proud to be a member in good standing and with status on the boards he owns. He's the type of leader that could order me to walk into a battle where certain death seems the only outcome and would do so eagerly knowing, but not understanding, that it was the right thing to do.
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I would think they would let him out on bond and watch his every move. Build a case against him and try and find who his supplier is. Unless he got raided and they found a bunch of shit ASS or w/e and think he's just it. I've known in the past with friends and family when they got busted. They usually let them go that day or that week and just watch them. Find out who's his runners are and who and were they get their stuff from.
 
I guess getting busted would be viewed as the MOST moral reason for disappearing.

But I wasn't busted.

I sound like a broken record, and I feel like the actual truth has the appearance of a created story.

I have disappeared in the past, citing "personal issues" as my reason.

Now these LabMax Tests, come out....people have poor bloodwork...I have A WHOLE $1500 of members money for Riptropin....

Under ^these^ circumstances, disappearing looks completely different. It looks like I am running from issues.

And NO personal issue that I could cite would change the opinions of those who have wanted to see me fail. And there are more than a few. (Dbolman)

I don't recommend anyone order from Biologic. Not because I think he will steal but because I want to remove my name from any/every source.

I enjoyed doing what I did for a time, and I'm done now. I was successful as I wanted to be, and Dbolman (though he tried) failed to even dent my endeavor.

Some will say I owe a bunch of you guys my left testicle, because I "profited from the community"......well, I respectfully disagree.

I will do everything I can to live up to every promise or assurance I extended to you guys while I was working as a source. But some kind of mystical, fairy-tale, responsiblity that I have to you??...ummm no. I'm a drug dealer. You are a drug purchaser. Period.

I've never worked harder for money in my life, than I have for the source money

I've made over the last year. I put my LIFE into this thing.

I consider many of you guys my friends, a few of you have my real phone number, and knew the reasons for my sudden disappearance. I appreciate those of you that have offered your support as my Family and I work through our time of loss, sorry I haven't been as consistent as I would have liked to be.
 
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dbolman said:
Good guys don't disappear with other people's money. He is posting under multiple handles. He is still here.
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I NEVER have.


PLEASE someone get Regular in here....tell him to work his magic.

I use ONE handle.

Period.

It's funny that Dbolman (who is a veteran member here, who uses multiple handles and ONLY uses DBOLMAN to bash me) would be the one to talk shit about me using multiple screen names.
 
It's good to have you back buddy. I'm sorry you're having a tough time. Bio is done! So am I! Goodbye! My work here is done.
 
All i can say about stretch is he went above and beyond to help resolve any questions or other issues that came up. Stretch i wish you well in whatever you do
 
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