I must have been reading the wrong thread because I didn't see anyone "rooting against" Stretch. I saw many that were rooting for those with money on the line.
CBS
I was referring to dbolman. We're reading the same thread. You and I have had some pm's. I understand where you're coming from and I agree with you. If you recall, since I posted it in this thread that we're both reading and you can feel free to ask the man yourself, I contacted mugz and asked him to help out over here.
I like Stretch. I also know things aren't right. The tone you're taking with me comes off as if you're not pleased with me and perhaps feel as if I'm not doing enough? You seem to have a firm grasp on things. Is there something you need?
When shit like this happens and people have money on the line this is how they react no matter who the source is. It could be stretch or a no name rep that has much less interaction with members. Fear. It makes otherwise rational and intelligent folks act out of character.
Doc used the word "Pathetic". If fits. I've spoken on this topic here on meso and other boards and have used words like "selfish" to describe individuals that don't post about their unsatisfactory service in "fear" of repercussion's like not getting their shit. They hope against hope and in my eyes lose their self respect. Don't they have any pride. They look like weasels. I'm embarrassed for them, It's money. People react differently than they would under any other circumstances.
Now, someone also said(duck was it?) It's been 11 days. Hardly the end of the fucking world. Out of character for stretch? Fuck, yes.
Anyone that knows HK knows that his communication is the fucking absolute worst. Anyone that has access to private discussions with people that have serious dollars invested with HK and have orders in with him the last 2 or 3 months will tell you that the delivery time has been longer than usual and usual wasn't much quicker than a crawl to begin with.
Couple the extra long delays with HK's at times non existent communication and you have a lot of scary people that I call friends looking like and posting up like straight pussy. As usual, HK comes through and we start the same routine in another month with the same folks with anxiety issues putting themselves through another tortuous transaction.
I've said this before and it's worth repeating we find ourselves in another uncomfortable situation because of Stretchs' position here in the meso community. The waters are muddied because he was a member here first and transitioned to being a rep.
I remember the 3 of us...Stretch, mugzy, and myself discussing Stretch perhaps becoming a rep for SF. We cautioned him and I straight up said it wasn't going to be a good thing. That's one of the things I admire about Stretch. He's his own man. He makes his own decisions. He's got balls. He took the position. He crossed the line that a guy can't come back from. Once he did that and took the position his posts and everything he does in the community, in my opinion, doesn't mean as much. I think Stretch understood that? A grain of salt at the ready if you were going to listen and take into consideration what he had to say.
To me, the venue that he was setting up shop made his position much more "controversial". Meso is unique, IMO. It's a monster. A board like meso that commands the audience that it does can be a wonderful thing(as I believe it is) or it could be another slaughterhouse or place where you cross to the other side of the street when you see certain folks coming towards you or you keep your bankroll in your front pocket and your wallet in your back.
OLM, PM and others remind of what it was like when my ex and I would cruise and a port of call would be in Jamaica(ocho rios?) and when passengers disembark there is only one way to do so. Reminds me of cattle that are directed through a market place and on both sides merchants are giving u their best sales pitch. Aggressive doesn't begin to describe the animals.
I was angry that not only are customers of Royal Caribbean not warned of the sudden attack buy actually accomplices in the conspiracy. OLM, PM and the like do the same. The almighty dollar and who gets it.
I've gotta go and do some things. I;ve got much respect for you CBS and believe we are after the same things and are on the same side here. I wear my emotions on my sleeve perhaps more than I should and when it comes to this board take thigs personally. If I took your remarks the wrong way I apologize. I believe I have proven myself as far as where my allegiance and priorities lay. They are the board and it's members first and foremost. I take offense to you or anyone else challenging that.
Stretch is a unique situation. We can go back in my posts over the last couple of years and see where I straight insult, curse, threaten and call stretch out. As far as I'm concerned he has proven himself to deserve special treatment from me. Not from you or anyone else. I'm talking about me. I've ripped him to the point that at times I've considered if he way lying in wait to rip my fucking head off because of the way I came at him and disrespected him.
Folks grow weary of hearing prison stories and talk and I've softened and am better about bringing that stuff into my posts. However, with those of us that have been there and done serious time it's never that far away. It changes you. I'm not talking about 5 or 6 months in county. I'm talking about years where you have to put the outside world away someplace because day to day life is on your plate and if you want to survive you have to focus and become an inmate. Different rules. It's a horrible and miserable place. When you start to thrive there and become comfortable something is fucked up, However, one does learn things about himself. You can't hide from anyone including yourself. There's something about that place that reveals the real you. No lies no bullshit.
I told people I didn't believe stretch was scamming them. Anyone that has a pm from me concerning the situation and stretch feel free to share the pm out in the open. I believe stretch has earned the right to be given a "pass"(someone used the word). That is, as long as people get their shit. I have no doubt they will. The whole "piss on your kits" thing is nothing to be taken than words and stretch expressing his frustration. I've spoken to iron and he has nothing to worry about,
