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fit2beking
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This shit is so fucking lame! Fucking haters are going to hate!!! Why in the hell are we even responding to this asswipe?!
:bullshit:
+2 hoping for private myself.
Good, be thing you could do to stay around long term.
scott weiland
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+4
What the hell week am I on?? lol I'm feeling good and ready for arms today. Damn left elbow is still killing me. Skip bi's again this week and wait until next week. Tri's, calves, and abs today.
mands
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Pericles
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Post up a shot of your legs (no homo).
Tendinitis fuckin blows, I haven't had a good tri workout in 3 weeks, no dips no skullcrushers.
DieYoungStrong
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I know the feels that you feel. I get tendonitis in my elbow and patellar tendonitis in my knee. I'm good at the moment, but when it flares up, it sucks bad...
I swear it just moves from one body part to another. The elbow will feel better then the bicep will ache. Sorry for venting my frustration lol
I will get some of the wheels for you.
Jack is does blow seriously. I banned skull crushers for good I think. The worst for tendonitis in my opinion
Ugh hate it!
I will vent right with you.
mands
johnnyBALLZ
Well-known Member
Ha. I just did skull crushers today for the first time in over 6 weeks. My left elbow was really screwed up, the 3 middle fingers on my left hand were constantly numb. I didn't go crazy just 125lbs 3x10 but it felt great. I swear that is the best exercise for thick tris but they come with a price if you over do it.
Are there any braces or sleeves that help? I've never worn one but I'm considering it now.
DieYoungStrong
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I wear neoprene knee sleeves when I'm doing legs. I forget the brand, but they are pretty good. I think I got them off pendlays site
Elbows are a no go. I've tried everything. When they flare up, I'm screwed.
Elbows are a no go. I've tried everything. When they flare up, I'm screwed.
Try skull crushers on the decline for a few workouts and keep your humerus BELOW 90 degrees. You can also maybe try dumbbells or switch your grip on the bar you're using. Little changes in angle or width can make a big difference sometimes.
I had elbow tendonitis for about a year that just didn't seem to go away no matter what. After switching to decline, adding more forearm, hand and bicep exercises for better overall muscular balance in the elbow region it is much more manageable.
This is a really helpful exercise for people with elbow tendonitis problems.
I had elbow tendonitis for about a year that just didn't seem to go away no matter what. After switching to decline, adding more forearm, hand and bicep exercises for better overall muscular balance in the elbow region it is much more manageable.
This is a really helpful exercise for people with elbow tendonitis problems.
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anabolicaddicted
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Not sure, it wasn't aimed to be offensive it was a question. More than likely theres more than 1 lab with the same name.
DieYoungStrong
New Member
God child, for whatever reason, my elbows cannot take skullcrushers with db's. elbows just want to cry.
I had a nasty case of lateral epicondylitis (tennis elbow) for years. I tried stretching exercises, physiotherapy, massage, etc. It got so bad, I could barely hold a cup of coffee without dropping it and I was seriously considering surgery.
I decided to give exercises one more shot but rather than use the exercises from the physiotherapist, I used exercises that caused the most pain - reverse wrist curls and another exercise holding (pronated) the end of a dumbbell with a plate on one side and lifting to 90 degrees. I did 3 sets of each exercise eod starting with a light weight and increasing over time as strength increased. Sets were done for the maximum "burn" possible - usually 30 - 50 reps and the I concentrated on slow eccentrics (30 seconds) - anything to make it harder and increase the burn. I used NO stretching, ice or massage.
What I first noticed with this protocol was greatly reduced pain the following day which would slowly return until the next exercise day. After about 2 months, the improvement was quite significant and by 6 months it was probably 95% improved. I saw no further improvement beyond the 95% so I stopped the exercises.
The improvement has remained to this day although last winter, I got tendonitis in the other elbow. Maybe it just moved.
I'm not suggesting my experience is the answer but there is evidence eccentric loading is beneficial for tendonitis.
This interesting study came out in 2010. They used eccentric wrist extensor exercises combined with standard therapy and a control group doing only standard physical therapy. They stopped the trial at 2 months because they felt the results were too unfair. The control group had showed little or no improvement. But the treatment group effectively had been cured. (Dr Jim, if you have any comments on this study, I'm interested in hearing them.)
J Shoulder Elbow Surg. 2010 Sep;19(6):917-22.
Addition of isolated wrist extensor eccentric exercise to standard treatment for chronic lateral epicondylosis: a prospective randomized trial. Addition of isolated wrist extensor ec... [J Shoulder Elbow Surg. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI
Tyler TF, Thomas GC, Nicholas SJ, McHugh MP.
[Link to full article: http://www.thera-bandacademy.com/elements/clients/docs/Tyler%20et%20al%20JSES%202010__201009DD_123442.pdf]
Abstract
BACKGROUND: Isokinetic eccentric training of the wrist extensors has recently been shown to be effective in treating chronic lateral epicondylosis. However, isokinetic dynamometry is not widely available or practical for daily exercise prescription. Therefore, the objective of this study was to assess the efficacy of a novel eccentric wrist extensor exercise added to standard treatment for chronic lateral epicondylosis.
MATERIALS AND METHODS: Twenty-one patients with chronic unilateral lateral epicondylosis were randomized into an eccentric training group (n = 11, 6 men, 5 women; age 47 +/- 2 yr) and a Standard Treatment Group (n = 10, 4 men, 6 women; age 51 +/- 4 yr). DASH questionnaire, VAS, tenderness measurement, and wrist and middle finger extension were recorded at baseline and after the treatment period.
RESULTS: Groups did not differ in terms of duration of symptoms (Eccentric 6 +/- 2 mo vs Standard 8 +/- 3 mos., P = .7), number of physical therapy visits (9 +/- 2 vs 10 +/- 2, P = .81) or duration of treatment (7.2 +/- 0.8 wk vs 7.0 +/- 0.6 wk, P = .69). Improvements in all dependent variables were greater for the Eccentric Group versus the Standard Treatment Group (percent improvement reported): DASH 76% vs 13%, P = .01; VAS 81% vs 22%, P = .002, tenderness 71% vs 5%, P = .003; strength (wrist and middle finger extension combined) 79% vs 15%, P = .011.
DISCUSSION: All outcome measures for chronic lateral epicondylosis were markedly improved with the addition of an eccentric wrist extensor exercise to standard physical therapy. This novel exercise, using an inexpensive rubber bar, provides a practical means of adding isolated eccentric training to the treatment of chronic lateral epicondylosis.
CBS
I decided to give exercises one more shot but rather than use the exercises from the physiotherapist, I used exercises that caused the most pain - reverse wrist curls and another exercise holding (pronated) the end of a dumbbell with a plate on one side and lifting to 90 degrees. I did 3 sets of each exercise eod starting with a light weight and increasing over time as strength increased. Sets were done for the maximum "burn" possible - usually 30 - 50 reps and the I concentrated on slow eccentrics (30 seconds) - anything to make it harder and increase the burn. I used NO stretching, ice or massage.
What I first noticed with this protocol was greatly reduced pain the following day which would slowly return until the next exercise day. After about 2 months, the improvement was quite significant and by 6 months it was probably 95% improved. I saw no further improvement beyond the 95% so I stopped the exercises.
The improvement has remained to this day although last winter, I got tendonitis in the other elbow. Maybe it just moved.
I'm not suggesting my experience is the answer but there is evidence eccentric loading is beneficial for tendonitis.
This interesting study came out in 2010. They used eccentric wrist extensor exercises combined with standard therapy and a control group doing only standard physical therapy. They stopped the trial at 2 months because they felt the results were too unfair. The control group had showed little or no improvement. But the treatment group effectively had been cured. (Dr Jim, if you have any comments on this study, I'm interested in hearing them.)
J Shoulder Elbow Surg. 2010 Sep;19(6):917-22.
Addition of isolated wrist extensor eccentric exercise to standard treatment for chronic lateral epicondylosis: a prospective randomized trial. Addition of isolated wrist extensor ec... [J Shoulder Elbow Surg. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI
Tyler TF, Thomas GC, Nicholas SJ, McHugh MP.
[Link to full article: http://www.thera-bandacademy.com/elements/clients/docs/Tyler%20et%20al%20JSES%202010__201009DD_123442.pdf]
Abstract
BACKGROUND: Isokinetic eccentric training of the wrist extensors has recently been shown to be effective in treating chronic lateral epicondylosis. However, isokinetic dynamometry is not widely available or practical for daily exercise prescription. Therefore, the objective of this study was to assess the efficacy of a novel eccentric wrist extensor exercise added to standard treatment for chronic lateral epicondylosis.
MATERIALS AND METHODS: Twenty-one patients with chronic unilateral lateral epicondylosis were randomized into an eccentric training group (n = 11, 6 men, 5 women; age 47 +/- 2 yr) and a Standard Treatment Group (n = 10, 4 men, 6 women; age 51 +/- 4 yr). DASH questionnaire, VAS, tenderness measurement, and wrist and middle finger extension were recorded at baseline and after the treatment period.
RESULTS: Groups did not differ in terms of duration of symptoms (Eccentric 6 +/- 2 mo vs Standard 8 +/- 3 mos., P = .7), number of physical therapy visits (9 +/- 2 vs 10 +/- 2, P = .81) or duration of treatment (7.2 +/- 0.8 wk vs 7.0 +/- 0.6 wk, P = .69). Improvements in all dependent variables were greater for the Eccentric Group versus the Standard Treatment Group (percent improvement reported): DASH 76% vs 13%, P = .01; VAS 81% vs 22%, P = .002, tenderness 71% vs 5%, P = .003; strength (wrist and middle finger extension combined) 79% vs 15%, P = .011.
DISCUSSION: All outcome measures for chronic lateral epicondylosis were markedly improved with the addition of an eccentric wrist extensor exercise to standard physical therapy. This novel exercise, using an inexpensive rubber bar, provides a practical means of adding isolated eccentric training to the treatment of chronic lateral epicondylosis.
CBS
