Blacktop / Meditrope ~ IGF-1 Test Results

[Eman]

@Thinkbig I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to prove here other asking questions then being a prick to those that answered them.

 

[Thinkbig]

@Thinkbig I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to prove here other asking questions then being a prick to those that answered them.

Here it starts.. Okay. Maybe read how I started posting. Then see how I was told t3 does not cause a rebound.. Anyways, I wont participate in the dick wagging. The science speaks for itself.

Maybe meso will at some point first reduce harm. Not today. Not today.

I quickly said when I was wrong even with the little time I have been here. Anyways, I wont try to prove anything else. The research is available to anyone with regard to t3. With regard to HGH which was I was posting about. My verdict is still out.

 

[Wunderpus]

Really? I'm not gonna argue this. I'm sorry just no purpose... Anyone is capable of using google.

You are correct we are talking thyroid and not gonads. But aside from that shut down is shut down.

This is what I mean when I talk about egos on this website. Arguing a false point is not beneficial to harm reduction. Just because you are an "awesome member" does not mean giving false advice. IE t3/t4 rebound and shut down is false when there are scholarly journals pointing this out. Sometimes being a big man is admitting when you are wrong....@Wunderpus even the link associated with this website notes rebound. Click on t3

Go fuck yourself, first of all.

Secondly, again, please, go fuck yourself for us all.

If you are so deluded and simple that you believe I am somehow ego posting by pointing out the fundamental flaw in your comparison of deca and T3/T4, I cannot help you.

Do you realize that rebounds can be shorter or longer periods of time depending on the FUCKING DRUG and the FUCKING ORGANS involved?! How fucking DARE you come here and your little high horse and act like I somehow would have an issue admitting if I was wrong.

Guess what, buttercup, I'm wrong a lot and have NO issue admitting that. I said I don't buy into the rebound effect making people gain a bunch of weight back. Chances are it offended you because you did, and have to blame this scary demonic rebound instead of the fact your diet and training probably suck about as much dick as your logic and comprehension skills.

I genuinely hope you kill yourself with DNP, god knows you can't risk just overheating and frying up a few brain cells.

Much love, WP.

 

[Eman]

Here it starts.. Okay. Maybe read how I started posting. Then see how I was told t3 does not cause a rebound.. Anyways, I wont participate in the dick wagging. The science speaks for itself.

Maybe meso will at some point first reduce harm. Not today. Not today.

I think the point was that thyroid shutdown isn't the same as AAS shutdown, because it's really not and your article proves that.

I don't really know why you're coming at me or anyone else for having a discussion on it, no one was a dick to you but you seem hell-bent on being antagonistic.

 

[Thinkbig]

Go fuck yourself, first of all.

Secondly, again, please, go fuck yourself for us all.

If you are so deluded and simple that you believe I am somehow ego posting by pointing out the fundamental flaw in your comparison of deca and T3/T4, I cannot help you.

Do you realize that rebounds can be shorter or longer periods of time depending on the FUCKING DRUG and the FUCKING ORGANS involved?! How fucking DARE you come here and your little high horse and act like I somehow would have an issue admitting if I was wrong.

Guess what, buttercup, I'm wrong a lot and have NO issue admitting that. I said I don't buy into the rebound effect making people gain a bunch of weight back. Chances are it offended you because you did, and have to blame this scary demonic rebound instead of the fact your diet and training probably suck about as much dick as your logic and comprehension skills.

I genuinely hope you kill yourself with DNP, god knows you can't risk just overheating and frying up a few brain cells.

Much love, WP.

Harm reduction....... Thank you for benefiting society. Have a good day.

 

[Thinkbig]

I think the point was that thyroid shutdown isn't the same as AAS shutdown, because it's really not and your article proves that.

I don't really know why you're coming at me or anyone else for having a discussion on it, no one was a dick to you but you seem hell-bent on being antagonistic.

No one was a dick... @Wunderpus

This is the problem with Meso. Sorry fellas. I'll go back to lurking. Maybe a board will emerge that helps with harm reduction without flaming other members when they are wrong. Have a good one guys.

 

[Wunderpus]

Here it starts.. Okay. Maybe read how I started posting. Then see how I was told t3 does not cause a rebound.. Anyways, I wont participate in the dick wagging. The science speaks for itself.

Maybe meso will at some point first reduce harm. Not today. Not today.

You are such a cunt. You wanna police this place that you know nothing about? You somehow are now our messiah coming here to reduce harm? Ha! I said "I DON'T BUY INTO THE REBOUND!"

Because I FUCKING DON'T! I didn't say "There are articles out there proving the rebound isn't real.", or anything of that nature. I think the fat gain from this SCARY rebound is largely overstated, and it's more often than not from shitty dieting and lack of proper training post cut. I don't think the very SHORT suppression of natural production will cause that much fat gain.

Please, find me quantifiable data that shows HOW MUCH FAT you put on in that short period of time if you maintain good diet and exercise, while your natural levels are low, and you have no exogenous thyroid hormone. Please..... I'll be waiting.

 

[Wunderpus]

Harm reduction....... Thank you for benefiting society. Have a good day.

"Harm reduction" would be invalids like yourself actually dying from their mother's umbilical cord around their neck, opposed to whatever horrific brain trauma you appear to have received.

Too stupid and head strong to even see the flaws in your own statements and arguments. I do love the fact you wish to - metaphorically - put words in my mouth.

 

[Eman]

No one was a dick... @Wunderpus

This is the problem with Meso. Sorry fellas. I'll go back to lurking. Maybe a board will emerge that helps with harm reduction without flaming other members when they are wrong. Have a good one guys.

Up until that last post, no one was a dick to you lol... But then again, you really brought it on yourself.

I tried being patient but you're an asshole... You're trying to act like you "know" this place and how bad it is but your only contribution I've seen is, "I dunno what this hGH is doing for me." - read that in a whiny bitchy voice like how I imagine you.

Then you bitch about how you're apparently the only one standing up for harm reduction, in my thread, that was posted for the sole purpose of helping others.

THEN you want to tell us all how we're ego posting... Lol holy shit, if that's not a pot meet kettle moment!

Lastly, fuck you.

 

[Wunderpus]

You will have to pay to see the rest. But here is your science.

Thyroid Function During the Rebound Phase Following the Discontinuation of Antithyroid Drugs | Endocrinology | Oxford Academic

Hope this helps members. My only reason for posting this...

Yeah yeah, you're the martyr, we get it already. Fuck.

Your little study from 1967 is about the discontinuation of ANTI-THYROID DRUGS.

God you're fucking retarded, the study doesn't have anything to do with the introduction of exogenous thyroid meds and "rebound" after discontinuation.

 

[Wunderpus]

If only he could actually have some integrity and have followed through....

Really? I'm not gonna argue this. I'm sorry just no purpose... Anyone is capable of using google.

 

[Eman]

"Harm reduction" would be invalids like yourself actually dying from their mother's umbilical cord around their neck, opposed to whatever horrific brain trauma you appear to have received.

Wunder, you really could have been some kind of poet.... I'm not sure WHAT kind, but some kind of one.

 

[Thinkbig]

Up until that last post, no one was a dick to you lol... But then again, you really brought it on yourself.

I tried being patient but you're an asshole... You're trying to act like you "know" this place and how bad it is but your only contribution I've seen is, "I dunno what this hGH is doing for me." - read that in a whiny bitchy voice like how I imagine you.

Then you bitch about how you're apparently the only one standing up for harm reduction, in my thread, that was posted for the sole purpose of helping others.

THEN you want to tell us all how we're ego posting... Lol holy shit, if that's not a pot meet kettle moment!

Lastly, fuck you.

The empty vessel makes the loudest sound. - William Shakespeare

Have a good weekend keyboard warriors @Eman and @Wunderpus.

 

[Wunderpus]

Keyboard warriors. Enjoy life in the basement.

Post your pics <3

*you can cum to my avatar one more time if you wish, before posting. I'm sure seeing pics of yourself in comparison to me is a real boner killer.

 

[Eman]

Keyboard warriors. Enjoy life in the basement.

Stop projecting your issues on me... Go back to watching sesame street and whining about your diet.

 

[Wunderpus]

The empty vessel makes the loudest sound. - William Shakespeare

Have a good weekend keyboard warriors @Eman and @Wunderpus.

I don't like your edited one as much, luckily I quoted your even less impressive original post above. Just proofread man, you look stupid.

 

[Eman]

I don't like your edited one as much, luckily I quoted your even less impressive original post above. Just proofread man, you look stupid.

I've seen some pathetic attempts at a flame but holy shit, when you're quoting Shakespeare you know you're out of witty comebacks.

 

[mands]

Fat rebound after t3. I was taking 100mcg for two months and went to 0. This was rxed from my doc so it is legit @Wunderpus T3 does slow down production when one blasts it like I did and then goes to 0. Ask a doctor about this. I didn't know it was so, my doctor warned me and I thought if i stayed in a deficit it wouldn't matter. I was wrong.

Are you sure that this rebound wasn't excess glycogen and water weight? If your diet was in check there shouldn't be any fat gain within that particular time frame.

Your natural levels will return within 2 weeks. Some studies show within 3 days after discontinuing t3.

I advocate tapering but some say it's okay to not taper down because of the limited time it takes for the thyroid to recover. It's a personal preference and some like to taper and some do not. I think @Docd187123 doesn't taper. Maybe he can come in for some added anecdotal experience.

mands

 

[Thinkbig]

Are you sure that this rebound wasn't excess glycogen and water weight? If your diet was in check there shouldn't be any fat gain within that particular time frame.

Your natural levels will return within 2 weeks. Some studies show within 3 days after discontinuing t3.

I advocate tapering but some say it's okay to not taper down because of the limited time it takes for the thyroid to recover. It's a personal preference and some like to taper and some do not. I think @Docd187123 doesn't taper. Maybe he can come in for some added anecdotal experience.

mands

As for fat gain not sure, rebound from my understanding is after stopping T3 for two weeks it may come back, but not to where it was prior. So just like with Testosterone you may be within range in a certain amount of time at 300 TT but when one was 800TT before the cycle he is still gonna suffer.

 

[Docd187123]

There is science behind the rebound. Irrefutable. Not excusing my diet. Denying it would be like saying you won't be shut down from deca.

My diet is better than it has been right now and I'm without T3 and the results are much better and there won't be a rebound. What I think you guys are missing is what my post is saying: all the substances under the sun won't give abs with a shitty or half ass diet. Maybe they will with DNP. That's the only drug I haven't tried... I think you guys are missing the point here. Yes there is irrefutable science behind T3 and t4 rebound, but that isn't the point of my post at all. Originally I was stating I hoped hgh worked magic going half ass on a diet. It doesn't, I then continued to say nor will T3/t4 clen or tren. Hope this clears it up

There is NO irrefutable proof of science behind a rebound from thyroid meds. None whatsoever.