Brewly - Worldwide Marketplace

[JohnDoeDoDoe]

"super secure webpage"
Yep. But we'll be seeking a new registrar. Registrars are where you get domains. A domain is your website name like "thinksteroids.com", for example. This domain resolves to an IP, which is the true address of your server/website. Clarifying for anyone that doesn't know.

Brewly prices

The only vendor who has raised prices was Colonial. I actually contacted him to fix his prices. He mistakenly raised everything by 10% instead of 5%. Not his fault though, there was some early confusion.

Anyway. Instead of paying 25 or 50 for Colonial, you'll now be paying 26 or 52.5.

Moving forward, we've also been suggesting vendors slightly raise prices to offer free shipping. Why? This saves you money on smaller orders and makes multi-vendor orders more convenient so you're not paying 2+ shipping fees.

Future

Over time, a marketplace will promote competition between vendors. As a vendor, you'll be more more inclined to offer better prices if your competitor's listing are right next to yours.

So you contacted a source from your marketplace to ask him to lower his prices...
But according to you, you have nothing to do with any of the sources on the website or its business model.
Exactly the same with the discounts the other other day.
LOL

 

[Brewly]

So you contacted a source from your marketplace to ask him to lower his prices...
But according to you, you have nothing to do with any of the sources on the website or its business model.
Exactly the same with the discounts the other other day.
LOL

Correct, I can merely make suggestions to our vendors. As anyone can. If it wasn't me, eventually someone else would have emailed Colonial:

"Hey Colonial, why are your prices 10% higher on Brewly"
>woops, fixing now

I could ask Colonial to make his prices 10% cheaper on Brewly, but as you can imagine, this suggestion would not go very far!

 

[JMpMasterSteve]

New vendors that come on without an existing, long-term positive reputation will have their initial withdraws held until first packs land.

That being said, any new vendor that comes on will naturally have a low ranking, and therefore low visibility. Anyone that buys from him, would be his own people that he procured and had order through the site instead of email. Why? Because no one else will find/see him.

If the intention is to exit scam, as a source, you'd have more success on a forum or just by giving out your email some other way.

To add to this, I think our bullshit filter should take care of most malicious entities.

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Thank you

 

[MadBret]

I actually think the free shipping idea is solid for the platform you are trying to setup. Nobody is going to want to order from multiple vendors and then have to pay separate, multiple shipping charges.

On the flip side, I'd be fairly pissed off/nervous if I had chosen to place an order and your site has already been taken down in less than a week of you introducing it on Meso.

I understand that it is a temporary problem, but that kind of thing certainly doesn't inspire confidence. Especially, when you have been on here challenging folks to try and hack your shit for 10k.

It's good to be confident in your security, but this makes you look bad, even if it isn't related to the actual security of the site.

 

[evoNVmem.2]

How are you verifying each vendor's brewing method? How do you make sure that the products being sold on your marketplace are safe? How do you make sure the product on your front page is 100mg/mL as advertised and not 70mg/mL?

The mods on SST have the sources submit their set up and methodology when applying to source on their forum. On SST and meso, users can ask the source directly on the forums and then the users can call out the sources for not knowing their shit. You can't do any of that on Brewly without buying from the source and then leaving a review on that specific item and you can't leave a written review because it's a stars only review.

 

[jackdiggler]

I love the convenience of brewly. Before I would contact a source with my order. Wait for the email with payment instructions. Pay. And get my stuff a couple days later.

Now with Brewly, I just need to login to their super secure webpage.... wait, it’s not coming up... it’s down.... apparently for a day...

I love this convenience. Totally worth paying a bit extra.

I'm sensing a little sarcasm. Good because I'm laying it on real thick. What movie is that from ?!?!

 

[Brewly]

How are you verifying each vendor's brewing method? How do you make sure that the products being sold on your marketplace are safe? How do you make sure the product on your front page is 100mg/mL as advertised and not 70mg/mL?

The mods on SST have the sources submit their set up and methodology when applying to source on their forum. On SST and meso, users can ask the source directly on the forums and then the users can call out the sources for not knowing their shit. You can't do any of that on Brewly without buying from the source and then leaving a review on that specific item and you can't leave a written review because it's a stars only review.

Bullshit filter



Lol I'm unable to turn off bold (HELP), so bear with me.

We'll also be adding a vendor blog section where users can comment and have a more personal, PUBLIC back and forth discussion, soon.

That being said our ranking/visibility is based on orders amount/average review/amount of disputes orders. Naturally the cream will rise to the top.

 

[Brewly]

Thank you

My pleasure. I've also previously discussed our, coming soon, formal order dispute system.

Here's the recap:

Buyers will be able to dispute items in their orders. Vendors will have the amount debited from their on-site balance. A formal dispute ensues where Buyer/Vendor hash it out. If the dispute is not settled, it can be escalated to arbitration by Brewly staff. It's a very similar system to Paypal. The details are not final, just know it will be fair for both Vendor and Buyer.

We are also considering having escrow for payments exceeding 1000 USD. Escrow means the funds are held, not released to vendor, until package is marked "Delivered".

 

[evoNVmem.2]

Bullshit filter

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Lol I'm unable to turn off bold (HELP), so bear with me.

We'll also be adding a vendor blog section where users can comment and have a more personal, PUBLIC back and forth discussion, soon.

That being said our ranking/visibility is based on orders amount/average review/amount of disputes orders. Naturally the cream will rise to the top.

It sounds like you currently have no process to filter out the bullshit vendors from your marketplace. That's great that you have a plan for a blog in the future, but those plans may or may not come into fruition. And, if it does come into fruition, it definitely won't be until after you have many sources selling their drugs on your marketplace. How long did it take you to implement a simple feature like removing your shipping information from the site?

Your FAQs page doesn't speak anything of the sources brewing knowledge. I can upload pictures of some oil in a beaker, some vials, and other lab equipment too. Hell, I can even send jano some gear from one of my sources and claim it as my own.

 

[xgunx]

Of course he hasnt.
It's been mentioned several times but his excuse is always " I can't tell the vendors what to do blah blah blah" , but I guarantee he hasn't even approached them with the suggestion.
Why? He's just here to springboard his money making idea for free. He's not really interested in doing anything that would be considered actual hard work.
Which brings us to my next response to the quote below.

This ^^^^ EXACTLY.
For supposedly smart businessmen , neither of them can see plainly in business it is considered a conflict of interest and is no good for anyone involved from the customer on up to the owners.
What they really thought was that if they came to the forum claiming DO was on board that they wouldn't get run through the wringer and would just cruise across the finish line because hey ... DO.
Also, @Brewly claimed "several Meso members" were involved but I notice all of them besides DO have remained silent. Makes me think they don't exist. Just another attempt at trying to lull the members here with another lie. After all, Brewly said the authorities can't do anything to them because they are just a marketplace and not selling aas, so why hide who these other members are? It's because the only other "member" here involved with them is DO and he is not a member he is a source.
Brewly has done nothing but lie from his first post and he's been called out for it by several members. His response was to post a meme and copy paste some shit that had to do nothing with the issue at hand.
Think of this .... DO is involved in this and after all the lies Brewly puked up, DO remained silent on it and even had his back. Let that sink in for a minute.

Yup.....
Supposedly many people have at the least had a hand in this.
I'm not so sure they are anywhere near as untouchable as they say. Maybe in their hometown if thats even true which I dont believe because they would have to be up all night in China to be posting when we are all day. They would be placed on a watch list until they slipped up on vacation at the very least.

 

[Brewly]

It sounds like you currently have no process to filter out the bullshit vendors from your marketplace. That's great that you have a plan for a blog in the future, but those plans may or may not come into fruition. And, if it does come into fruition, it definitely won't be until after you have many sources selling their drugs on your marketplace. How long did it take you to implement a simple feature like removing your shipping information from the site?

Your FAQs page doesn't speak anything of the sources brewing knowledge. I can upload pictures of some oil in a beaker, some vials, and other lab equipment too. Hell, I can even send jano some gear from one of my sources and claim it as my own.

"It sounds like you currently have no process to filter out the bullshit vendors from your marketplace."
I assume you're dismissing the vendor application process screenshot I posted? Let me elaborate further then

Anyway, with DO being the co-founder, he signs off on every application. If it's a vendor we've never heard of, and no big-name source can vouch for them (as being a SOLID, private vendor), they get denied.

I turn to DO's expertise to analyze the photos provided to us.

"How long did it take you to implement a simple feature like removing your shipping information from the site?"

We've had automatic order deletion from the beginning (after 60 days), but we realized this was stupid. Shipping info now automatically wipes when orders are marked as "Shipped". It can also be manually deleted at any time. Fyi, we launched early last month. The manual deletion feature was up I think within 2 weeks of launch. Up within around 2 days of users requesting it.

Why did we not initially have manual deletion? As you can imagine, this is catastrophic to an order if you delete your info before the vendor ships out your order. We rather you have full control over your data though, at any cost.


To cap this post off. We listen very closely to the community. It's part of the reason we're here. If a source is resoundingly found to be pushing bad product, scamming, etc. They will be banned, and their withdraws HELD. Meaning, funds will be returned to all affected customers. Something no forum could ever do.

 

[xgunx]

I actually think the free shipping idea is solid for the platform you are trying to setup. Nobody is going to want to order from multiple vendors and then have to pay separate, multiple shipping charges.

On the flip side, I'd be fairly pissed off/nervous if I had chosen to place an order and your site has already been taken down in less than a week of you introducing it on Meso.

I understand that it is a temporary problem, but that kind of thing certainly doesn't inspire confidence. Especially, when you have been on here challenging folks to try and hack your shit for 10k.

It's good to be confident in your security, but this makes you look bad, even if it isn't related to the actual security of the site.

I agree with you greatly on this and I'm about to kind of contradict myself. Top companies have standing bounties because they would rather pay out 50k to a white hat hacker to secretly tell them how to fix it than exploit it and make it public.

 

[evoNVmem.2]

"It sounds like you currently have no process to filter out the bullshit vendors from your marketplace."
I assume you're dismissing the vendor application process screenshot I posted? Let me elaborate further then

Anyway, with DO being the co-founder, he signs off on every application. If it's a vendor we've never heard of, and no big-name source can vouch for them (as being a SOLID, private vendor), they get denied.

I turn to DO's expertise to analyze the photos provided to us.

"How long did it take you to implement a simple feature like removing your shipping information from the site?"

We've had automatic order deletion from the beginning (after 60 days), but we realized this was stupid. Shipping info now automatically wipes when orders are marked as "Shipped". It can also be manually deleted at any time. Fyi, we launched early last month. The manual deletion feature was up I think within 2 weeks of launch. Up within around 2 days of users requesting it.

Why did we not initially have manual deletion? As you can imagine, this is catastrophic to an order if you delete your info before the vendor ships out your order. We rather you have full control over your data though, at any cost.


To cap this post off. We listen very closely to the community. It's part of the reason we're here. If a source is resoundingly found to be pushing bad product, scamming, etc. They will be banned, and their withdraws HELD. Meaning, funds will be returned to all affected customers. Something no forum could ever do.

Where does the source describe his brewing process from start to finish? Where does he tell you how he sterilizes the gear itself? How does he sterilize the vials he's using to dump finished product into? In the about section? In the FAQs section? Are you going to require him to take a picture of every single step in the process and then upload that?

DO isn't the saint of steroids and referring to him whenever you don't have an answer isn't going to resolve anything.

 

[wickedbit]

The big issue with Brewly coming to the underground that I have been reading over the last few days are the "Un-vetted" Vendors. If you really want and care about what the Meso family are about, then how hard is it to REQUIRE a potential source to slide in here one Friday before they show up on your marketplace and introduce themselves? At the very least, you should have a section on your "marketplace" for a index of sources and their up to date and preferred contact information. It would be a step in the right direction in my opinion.

 

[Brewly]

Where does the source describe his brewing process from start to finish? Where does he tell you how he sterilizes the gear itself? How does he sterilize the vials he's using to dump finished product into? In the about section? In the FAQs section? Are you going to require him to take a picture of every single step in the process and then upload that?

DO isn't the saint of steroids and referring to him whenever you don't have an answer isn't going to resolve anything.

No worries, let me elaborate with some actual examples:

Colonial
Long-time, legit seller from SST. We verified he was who he said he was, and approved his application

Pharmasource
5 year Meso veteran. Verified who he was, approved.

WFO
Private vendor. Provided stocks pics, lab testing, and we spoke with the clients of his that were comfortable coming forward to vouch.

AZTECAGOLD
Private vendor. Provided stock pics. Was sent to us by SynergyForge, a long-time very professional SST seller.

How did we handle their withdraws?

Colonial - Approved withdraws after initial orders were shipped
WFO - Didn't even attempt a withdraw for the first 3 weeks, even after several successful orders fulfilled.
AZTECAGOLD - Came on very recently, has yet to have a sale. We're monitoring him very closely. Will not approve early withdraws until his initial orders land successfully.

 

[Brewly]

The big issue with Brewly coming to the underground that I have been reading over the last few days are the "Un-vetted" Vendors. If you really want and care about what the Meso family are about, then how hard is it to REQUIRE a potential source to slide in here one Friday before they show up on your marketplace and introduce themselves? At the very least, you should have a section on your "marketplace" for a index of sources and their up to date and preferred contact information. It would be a step in the right direction in my opinion.

"you should have a section on your "marketplace" for a index of sources and their up to date and preferred contact information."

This exists, yes. There is a "Vendors" link in the header. You can view/search all vendors. You can message every vendor via the on-site messenger, or look for their provided email in the "Contact" page on their storefront.

Example:

 

[oceanus99]

Is the site down?

 

[combover]

I'm sensing a little sarcasm. Good because I'm laying it on real thick. What movie is that from ?!?!

David Spade in Tommy Boy

 

[Brewly]

Is the site down?

Yes, we're migrating registrars (domain provider).

 

[oceanus99]

Someone linked this handy dandy site on discord:
hostingchecker

Now.. I'm not even someone very technically savvy but I was able to find your hosting provider ( njal.la ).

Correct me if I'm wrong but if your hosting provider is stating this on their site:



Why the hell should I trust using your website?? Your own hosting provider is clearly stating they cooperate with government and I'm pretty sure steroids fit into that second part of the statement.

THIS is why I say I'm not going to risk going through more (or even different) layers to access a source. I would rather go directly to the source (via email is my method of choice) for my own safety.