malfeasance
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Compare the 2 pics above. Green= 3 years ago. Red = 3 days ago. That is a drastic difference in three years. Look at the facial structure. It is not the same.
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In the latter pics she looks like she developed a meth habit.Compare the 2 pics above. Green= 3 years ago. Red = 3 days ago. That is a drastic difference in three years. Look at the facial structure. It is not the sam
They must have gotten hitched. Her IG and website are Valliere.Isn't her last name Valliere?
They must have gotten hitched. Her IG and website are Valliere.
I think she's also just a lot leaner now. Women who get lean lean rarely look very feminine. A few pounds of fat on her she might look right back to normalCompare the 2 pics above. Green= 3 years ago. Red = 3 days ago. That is a drastic difference in three years. Look at the facial structure. It is not the same.
Wishful thinking. She is pretty damn lean in the earlier pic. It is a stage pic, after all.I think she's also just a lot leaner now. Women who get lean lean rarely look very feminine. A few pounds of fat on her she might look right back to normal
I disagree. I think she took a lot of time off the last few years, too. I think there may have even been a year of no lifting at all, it's not like she's been on gear this whole time.Wishful thinking. She is pretty damn lean in the earlier pic. It is a stage pic, after all.
Three years of steroids (on top of however long she was on before the first pic, I mean, she was already a pro) is basically teenage boy puberty. Her face changed. It's not just lean.
If she wasn't then something went SERIOUSLY wrong with her. She looks like a haggard hobo offering handjobs for crack behind the Circle K.it's not like she's been on gear this whole time.
I don't think so. The mugshot looks bad but you can watch her on video and she's hardly the pinnacle of virilization. Just look at this video from a few weeks ago:If she wasn't then something went SERIOUSLY wrong with her. She looks like a haggard hobo offering handjobs for crack behind the Circle K.
I watched the video. I was waiting to see the cops bust in and start ransacking the place . . .I don't think so. The mugshot looks bad but you can watch her on video and she's hardly the pinnacle of virilization. Just look at this video from a few weeks ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T7U3hySzv0
Not like I'm sitting here saying androgens have no effect on women's appearance/voice/etc.. They obviously do. But I think you're exaggerating a lot. As far as Figure competitors in prep go, she's very feminine. Have you seen Liv Roth?
maybe a bit more! I think like all things bodybuilding, video really reveals all. Maybe a bit more masculine but some of the posts in this thread are crazy overboard IMO.I watched the video. I was waiting to see the cops bust in and start ransacking the place . . .
More seriously, graciebjj - her face looks different, more masculine, in that video than she looked three years ago. Just being as honest as I can be.
Back on the risk mitigation topic.
arrives at the PO you go after hours when no one is around and pick up using gloves, maybe a quick check with handheld UV light. Leave the empty packaging in the PO trash (rip the addy label off). Drive away, not breaking traffic laws etc. What could be done if there was a tracking device found in the package of massage oils that are mislabeled as something else?
Maybe you live in some rural area, but here most PO boxes have cameras watching them. So it can be quite contraproductive showing up in gloves (although you can explain you fear from the virus) after hours, then leaving the box near there...Back on the risk mitigation topic.
arrives at the PO you go after hours when no one is around and pick up using gloves, maybe a quick check with handheld UV light. Leave the empty packaging in the PO trash (rip the addy label off). Drive away, not breaking traffic laws etc. What could be done if there was a tracking device found in the package of massage oils that are mislabeled as something else?
Cameras are not a factor in this instance. Interesting talking points for sure.Maybe you live in some rural area, but here most PO boxes have cameras watching them. So it can be quite contraproductive showing up in gloves (although you can explain you fear from the virus) after hours, then leaving the box near there...
In my country buying / importing steroids for personal use is decriminalized. Thats why when my order got caught I knew I had to say yeah of course its mine! Otherwise they could justify a deep investigation into the case- I would have been in trouble lying under oath.
No way I would order shit from the internet if I can get to serious trouble. Given no other option (doctor' prescription or whatever) sure I would only order domestic.
Damn Right. I agree 100%! Which Cirlcle K was that?If she wasn't then something went SERIOUSLY wrong with her. She looks like a haggard hobo offering handjobs for crack behind the Circle K.
If she wasn't then something went SERIOUSLY wrong with her. She looks like a haggard hobo offering handjobs for crack behind the Circle K.