can u run a low dose test e, without any pct?

[WifeBeater]

i could be wrong, but i'm asking because i've heard that as a first time anabolic user shouldn't need pct and is actually not recommended granted the doses are low enough. the theory behind this is that when a exogenous test source is introduced into an virgin (as in no steroid use) bodybuilder, that his endocrine system can bounce back alot easier than say a long time user. the source that i heard this from even stated that it good for you to try and refrain from using pct until it is absolutely necessary. like i said before i could be wrong, and i know you people here are ruthless to noobs, but please tell me if any of you have ever heard of someone doing this?

 

[Gbro]

You might want to try collecting your own semen daily and mixing it into a protein drink.

 

[DonQKong]

You might want to try collecting your own semen daily and mixing it into a protein drink.

Let's help a newbie out and all contribute to this ... OP, send your "protein" drink around wez got gez for your gainz brah

 

[Thinkbig]

You can do anything you want OP. Just like coming up with this idea of taking Testosterone at a low dose without a pct. sure you can do it. Your dick will be broken for who knows how long.

 

[Jak3d]

Spend the extra $ and get at least Nolvadex and a AI why chance it

 

[Juced]

i could be wrong, but i'm asking because i've heard that as a first time anabolic user shouldn't need pct and is actually not recommended granted the doses are low enough. the theory behind this is that when a exogenous test source is introduced into an virgin (as in no steroid use) bodybuilder, that his endocrine system can bounce back alot easier than say a long time user. the source that i heard this from even stated that it good for you to try and refrain from using pct until it is absolutely necessary. like i said before i could be wrong, and i know you people here are ruthless to noobs, but please tell me if any of you have ever heard of someone doing this?

always do apct. PCT helps recovery . and even a low dose JUST to be at normal levels will cause shutdowna nd be pointless for gains. and a cycle dose will cause shutdown also. either do it or dont, but dont half ass it.

 

[DonQKong]

My twin brother didn't PCT. she is doing quite well now

 

[mands]

Actually OP you are correct in some instances. Most not all can recover fairly easy without running a PCT with what you are describing. The younger you are can help with that and the amount/types of AAS you use.

Plenty of guys in there 20's and early 30's don't run a pct and recover fine. Some don't.

Always get bloods and see for yourself.

mands

 

[WifeBeater]

i wasn't planning on doing it honestly, just some dude on youtube ( yea i know..) was telling his viewers this. another question is if i do cycle, should i be honest with my doc about what i'm using, and then ask him to prescribe the AI's for a much cheaper price than underground labs? Are our doctors allowed to do that if there not controlled substances?

 

[ironwill1951]

it is not absolutely necessary, it will take you longer to return to normal levels but they will return, you have to keep your diet on point (high protein) and keep a good lifting regimen to keep most of your gains.
I have only did pct one time in forty years clomid gave me more acne than any aas ever did,

 

[Juced]

i wasn't planning on doing it honestly, just some dude on youtube ( yea i know..) was telling his viewers this. another question is if i do cycle, should i be honest with my doc about what i'm using, and then ask him to prescribe the AI's for a much cheaper price than underground labs? Are our doctors allowed to do that if there not controlled substances?

dont do it unless absolutely needed. avoid it, you could fuk yourself for future life and/or health insurance, they make you sign rights over to see it or you get screwed anyways.
got an abscess or infection? it was a b12 shot.
got an odd blood result in? it was some online supp you are trying out that supposed to help with muscle, and so on..

 

[Juced]

for got for legit hrt and just add to it from time to time and use AI and test from him and/or shop

 

[master.on]

i could be wrong, but i'm asking because i've heard that as a first time anabolic user shouldn't need pct and is actually not recommended granted the doses are low enough. the theory behind this is that when a exogenous test source is introduced into an virgin (as in no steroid use) bodybuilder, that his endocrine system can bounce back alot easier than say a long time user. the source that i heard this from even stated that it good for you to try and refrain from using pct until it is absolutely necessary. like i said before i could be wrong, and i know you people here are ruthless to noobs, but please tell me if any of you have ever heard of someone doing this?

You'd be surprised how some people can be very suppressed, for a long time despite low doses of mild steroids.

Not recommended
but if you want to skip pct it's your call
at least use some SERM or AI to avoid gyno from a Testosterone cycle.

 

[Kinetic]

Why risk it? If you're going to spend the money to shut yourself down, regardless of the dosage, why wouldn't you spend the money to recover properly?

Some good info on YouTube. Also a lot of bullshit. Learning to week through the good and bad is the challenge.

 

[WifeBeater]

dont do it unless absolutely needed. avoid it, you could fuk yourself for future life and/or health insurance, they make you sign rights over to see it or you get screwed anyways.
got an abscess or infection? it was a b12 shot.
got an odd blood result in? it was some online supp you are trying out that supposed to help with muscle, and so on..

maybe i'm being ignorant but i don't understand what your trying to say?

 

[mands]

Why risk it? If you're going to spend the money to shut yourself down, regardless of the dosage, why wouldn't you spend the money to recover properly?

Some good info on YouTube. Also a lot of bullshit. Learning to week through the good and bad is the challenge.

Because of the reasons I've stated above. Not all cycles require a PCT and your body will recover without the extra drugs in similar time and fashion.

mands

 

[ironwill1951]

I think he is referring to your thoughts of being honest to your doctor,

 

[WifeBeater]

Actually OP you are correct in some instances. Most not all can recover fairly easy without running a PCT with what you are describing. The younger you are can help with that and the amount/types of AAS you use.

Plenty of guys in there 20's and early 30's don't run a pct and recover fine. Some don't.

Always get bloods and see for yourself.

mands

i'm 28, and from all the advice i've gotten, i believe i may do 200mg of test e per week at most, ( starting as small as possible on first cycle, and slowly easing myself into AAS use) and keep the AI's on hand, and just see how it goes without it. From what i understand, if i need them in a hurry, the AI's work within just a few hours correct?

 

[master.on]

i'm 28, and from all the advice i've gotten, i believe i may do 200mg of test e per week at most, ( starting as small as possible on first cycle, and slowly easing myself into AAS use) and keep the AI's on hand, and just see how it goes without it. From what i understand, if i need them in a hurry, the AI's work within just a few hours correct?

Nope
while AIs block the Aromatase Enzyme quickly,
the body takes a while to get rid of excess Estrogen

Read some Pubmed studies
and you'll see that Aromatase Inhibitors take a few weeks to reach equilibrium, i.e. to drop Estrogen the lowest they can

To make it worse
'Although aromatase inhibition by anastrozole and letrozole is reported to be close to 100%, administration of these inhibitors to men will not suppress plasma estradiol levels completely.'
Aromatase inhibitors in men: effects and therapeutic options

Also
Keep in mind that only Testosterone aromatizes (converts) to ESTRADIOL.
Other steroids (i.e. Dianabol) aromatize to Estrogenic derivatives that don't show on blood tests.

 

[Ripped]

i'm 28, and from all the advice i've gotten, i believe i may do 200mg of test e per week at most, ( starting as small as possible on first cycle, and slowly easing myself into AAS use) and keep the AI's on hand, and just see how it goes without it. From what i understand, if i need them in a hurry, the AI's work within just a few hours correct?

No not within a few hours but a few days yes.

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