Can we all agree on at least ONE thing???

[Jeton]

Billydidit is a fucking pussy, who spouts off at the mouth, far too much and has far too little knowledge for me to engage him in an intelligent conversation.

YOU on the other hand are an expert, my question was directed towards you, and BJ's stupid ass comment got the retort it deserved.

well, he and i BOTH raised the point of all the very loud homophobes who end up caught having gay sex, a phenomena i'm personally familiar with...it's hard to explain the sheer satisfaction of someone who attacked u verbally for awhile n made clear he would have attacked physically if he could (he claimed civility, i say he was scared) eventually choking hard on my jackhammering cock as he begs me to do it harder and smack him around as i do it.

u simply ignored the incidence of that, even tho many of the right wing Christian leaders attacking gay rights most viciously end up getting caught in silly gay sex scandals...including the supposed mastermind behind the "Family Research Council", and the hustler he hired from rentboy.com to "carry his luggage".

 

[Stretch]

well, he and i BOTH raised the point of all the very loud homophobes who end up caught having gay sex, a phenomena i'm personally familiar with...it's hard to explain the sheer satisfaction of someone who attacked u verbally for awhile n made clear he would have attacked physically if he could (he claimed civility, i say he was scared) eventually choking hard on my jackhammering cock as he begs me to do it harder and smack him around as i do it.

u simply ignored the incidence of that, even tho many of the right wing Christian leaders attacking gay rights most viciously end up getting caught in silly gay sex scandals...including the supposed mastermind behind the "Family Research Council", and the hustler he hired from rentboy.com to "carry his luggage".

This is bullshit^^

100% of the christian right wing leaders, denounce homosexuality as what the Bible says it is.

SIN

How many of them have been caught in sex scandals??

what percentage is that??

.5% ?!?!?!

And you take that 0.5% over the 99.5% because,for obvious reasons, it's a sensationalistic story .

Be objective bro, there is not a LARGE number. Not even close to a majority.

 

[Jeton]

This is bullshit^^
100% of the christian right wing leaders, denounce homosexuality as what the Bible says it is.
SIN
How many of them have been caught in sex scandals??
what percentage is that??
.5% ?!?!?!
And you take that 0.5% over the 99.5% because it's a sensationalistic story for obvious reasons.
Be objective bro, there is not a LARGE number. Not even close to a majority.

no one posted the word "majority" until u did just now, however many absolutely pivotal figures among right-wing homophobes have been caught in the gay sex pantry....the guy i mentioned is actually considered the main intellectual force behind the homophobia of the FRC, while that Dobbs guy is the operational leader.

ur still dodging the point...gay smoke, gay fire.

 

[Millard]

Assuming you are a heterosexual male, why the violent reaction when a gay man hits on you in which you have absolutely no interest and are disgusted at the proposition?

Why would your reaction differ from being hit upon by an unattractive female in which you have absolutely no interest and are disgusted at the proposition? You wouldn't beat up a women in this instance to show that you are not interested, would you?

For that matter, I am sure there must be straight people who have sexual fetishes which absolutely disgust you. Why not the hatred and violent urges towards these individuals.

What is it about homosexualtiy that elicits the violent reactions?

 

[Jeton]

Assuming you are a heterosexual male, why the violent reaction when a gay man hits on you in which you have absolutely no interest and are disgusted at the proposition?

Why would your reaction differ from being hit upon by an unattractive female in which you have absolutely no interest and are disgusted at the proposition? You wouldn't beat up a women in this instance to show that you are not interested, would you?

For that matter, I am sure there must be straight people who have sexual fetishes which absolutely disgust you. Why not the hatred and violent urges towards these individuals.

What is it about homosexualtiy that elicits the violent reactions?

 

[Stretch]

no one posted the word "majority" until u did just now, however many absolutely pivotal figures among right-wing homophobes have been caught in the gay sex pantry....the guy i mentioned is actually considered the main intellectual force behind the homophobia of the FRC, while that Dobbs guy is the operational leader.

ur still dodging the point...gay smoke, gay fire.

I'm not dodging any point.

My point is simply that millions of people call homosexuality sin. (you label them homophobes) and a small percentage of them have been caught in gay activity.

SO WHAT?

That doesn't MEAN anything.

What you're doing is no different than right wingers PROJECTING the actions of a "few bad apples" in the muslim religion on the rest of the muslim population.

Hypocrite.

 

[Stretch]

Assuming you are a heterosexual male, why the violent reaction when a gay man hits on you in which you have absolutely no interest and are disgusted at the proposition?

Why would your reaction differ from being hit upon by an unattractive female in which you have absolutely no interest and are disgusted at the proposition? You wouldn't beat up a women in this instance to show that you are not interested, would you?

For that matter, I am sure there must be straight people who have sexual fetishes which absolutely disgust you. Why not the hatred and violent urges towards these individuals.

What is it about homosexualtiy that elicits the violent reactions?

Both parties in your scenario are assuming something Millard.

The woman is assuming that there is a chance you'd like to beat her pussy up. NOT an offending assumption.

The man is assuming there is a chance you'd like to suck his dick, or vice versa, which I have to admit I would find extremely offensive.

I believe it would be wrong to react with violence, but then again, who's perfect?

 

[Jeton]

I'm not dodging any point.

My point is simply that millions of people call homosexuality sin. (you label them homophobes) and a small percentage of them have been caught in gay activity.

SO WHAT?

That doesn't MEAN anything.

What you're doing is no different than right wingers PROJECTING the actions of a "few bad apples" in the muslim religion on the rest of the muslim population.

Hypocrite.

apples and orange juice....as my longer and obviously un-read post indicated, the behavioral nature of homophobia is such that it will inevitably inflict itself upon closeted homosexuals, some of whom will obviously make particularly exceptional efforts to display homophobia and advance the political appeal of it themselves. so much so that the percentage of nationally significant anti-gay-rights leaders caught in gay scandals is much higher than the ".5%" figure u cite...

 

[Stretch]

apples and orange juice....as my longer and obviously un-read post indicated, the behavioral nature of homophobia is such that it will inevitably inflict itself upon closeted homosexuals, some of whom will obviously make particularly exceptional efforts to display homophobia and advance the political appeal of it themselves. so much so that the percentage of nationally significant anti-gay-rights leaders caught in gay scandals is much higher than the ".5%" figure u cite...

How many "leaders" have been caught in gay activity Jeton??

How many?

 

[Jeton]

Both parties in your scenario are assuming something Millard.

The woman is assuming that there is a chance you'd like to beat her pussy up. NOT an offending assumption.

The man is assuming there is a chance you'd like to suck his dick, or vice versa, which I have to admit I would find extremely offensive.

I believe it would be wrong to react with violence, but then again, who's perfect?

so if a 75yo 350lbs 6'4" female leprosy victim that looked like Lyle Alzado's granny asked u to suck the frothy microbial cream from her gash (her words) u would NOT be offended?

 

[Jeton]

How many "leaders" have been caught in gay activity Jeton??

How many?

over what time period? over the last 15-20 years it's consistently been 1-4 a year...mostly national figures r the ones who make national news in the first place.

 

[Stretch]

The guy you mentioned I've never even heard of....so our definition of "national leaders" probably differs a little bit.

But I want you to make the number as HIGH as you can for the sake of your argument, because the argument is SO clearly devoid of reason.

You have a SEVERE minority which act a certain way and you use the actions of this minority to throw a blanket of emotion over the rest of the group.

 

[Stretch]

so if a 75yo 350lbs 6'4" female leprosy victim that looked like Lyle Alzado's granny asked u to suck the frothy microbial cream from her gash (her words) u would NOT be offended?

Disgusted but not angered.

But your logic has holes.

If the same granny slapped my girlfriends ass, and called her a bitch, before bumping into me and spilling my beer. I'd probably laugh, and no matter what, I STILL would not be angered.

However, if a 22y/o man did ANY of the above, he'd have serious problems.

So it's not that the gay is GAY OMG. It's just some things piss ya off and some don't.

Gay guys HAVE hit on me and not gotten beat up. Matter of fact I've never had a desire to hurt a homo. A REAL desire anyway. 'cept YOU a couple times jeton...[)]..seriously tho...you've pissed me off real good...

It's about the delivery of it, if the gay guy grabs my dick and says "In my mouth" he's gonna get hurt.

But if he does that effeminate stupid little girl wave, and buys me a beer, he's probably gonna get some of my friends to make a bunch of stupid comments and it would cause nothing more than a laugh amongst me and my friends.

I just don't think we are horrible people because the thought of faggotry disgusts us.

 

[Jeton]

The guy you mentioned I've never even heard of....so our definition of "national leaders" probably differs a little bit.

But I want you to make the number as HIGH as you can for the sake of your argument, because the argument is SO clearly devoid of reason.

You have a SEVERE minority which act a certain way and you use the actions of this minority to throw a blanket of emotion over the rest of the group.

the pool of nationally-famous homophobes is a small one, so let's say 40-or-so national-stature homophobes over 20 years is hardly a "severe minority".

as for people in general, like i said in the LONG POST U IGNORED, research has established that vitriolic homophobes r far more likely than random control groups to display physical signs of sexual arousal when shown homoerotic images.

 

[Stretch]

the pool of nationally-famous homophobes is a small one, so let's say 40-or-so national-stature homophobes over 20 years is hardly a "severe minority".

as for people in general, like i said in the LONG POST U IGNORED, research has established that vitriolic homophobes r far more likely than random control groups to display physical signs of sexual arousal when shown homoerotic images.

I didn't ignore it.

I read it.

I just think it's bullshit, because I CAN'T relate to it. And that's the ROOT CAUSE for this whole discussion. I have an inability to relate to the statements made by many scientists and fags.

So, I don't know whether to dismiss the "dilated pupils" as pseudoscientific bullshit, or if all humans, really have homo tendencies.

 

[Stretch]

the pool of nationally-famous homophobes is a small one, so let's say 40-or-so national-stature homophobes over 20 years is hardly a "severe minority".

as for people in general, like i said in the LONG POST U IGNORED, research has established that vitriolic homophobes r far more likely than random control groups to display physical signs of sexual arousal when shown homoerotic images.

See, you're purposely shrinking the "pool"

Nationally famous homophobes??

What does that mean??

So, out of millions of people who publicly and privately denounce homosexuality as sin, you can think of 40, who have been caught up in homo acts.

I know I am stating the figure as "millions" and you're argument will be that many of these millions could have participated in homo acts and it never would have made national news. But I feel like many people who NEVER would have gotten national news previously SUDDENLY are "national leaders" BECAUSE they fucked up.

 

[Jeton]

I didn't ignore it.

I read it.

I just think it's bullshit, because I CAN'T relate to it. And that's the ROOT CAUSE for this whole discussion. I have an inability to relate to the statements made by many scientists and fags.

So, I don't know whether to dismiss the "dilated pupils" as pseudoscientific bullshit, or if all humans, really have homo tendencies.

who said "all" humans? btw there's more in/to the world that what u can relate to.

i gotta hit the gym soon, will respond to more of ur silliness later

 

[Stretch]

who said "all" humans? btw there's more in/to the world that what u can relate to.

i gotta hit the gym soon, will respond to more of ur silliness later

It makes me feel gross when you call me silly.

And I know there is more to the world than I can relate to....I'm not closed minded like you....HENCE, this conversation.

I am seeking YOUR opinion, and the logic behind your opinion, to try and understand that which I can't relate to.

 

[Stretch]

who said "all" humans?

fair enough...

should have said "a much larger % than I previously believed"

 

[KBD]

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