Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals 2017

Been using Pareto for almost a year now, first time using this specific source. Have had no complaints in the past. Placed order on the morning of the 7th for some GW and Winstrol, received it today, the 9th. Super fast shipping/responses and very friendly, 10/10.
 
I think it is normal this time of year, all my friends from the gym cycle up and many others I do not know well. But one thing I see from gym to shining gym is people try one bottle of one lab, another bottle from another, then switch to another- then they seem to be able to pinpoint what item from who did what.

I don't care what anyone says otherwise; if you are blasting 1000 test, 525 tren a, proviron, anavar, and Primo... you are not going to be able to tell if any one compound is dosed properly, or bunk.
 
I think it is normal this time of year, all my friends from the gym cycle up and many others I do not know well. But one thing I see from gym to shining gym is people try one bottle of one lab, another bottle from another, then switch to another- then they seem to be able to pinpoint what item from who did what.

I don't care what anyone says otherwise; if you are blasting 1000 test, 525 tren a, proviron, anavar, and Primo... you are not going to be able to tell if any one compound is dosed properly, or bunk.

Isn't that why it's suggested to only add one new compound per new cycle? So you can "feel" the effects of the new steroid. If you're at the point where you're pinning all that oil, I'm pretty sure you've done your research and know if something is bunk or not.
 
Isn't that why it's suggested to only add one new compound per new cycle? So you can "feel" the effects of the new steroid. If you're at the point where you're pinning all that oil, I'm pretty sure you've done your research and know if something is bunk or not.

I think he's right and wrong.
For example.

You add Tren, you know if it's bunk or not. That's just Tren.
However, if you have test and Tren... I doubt you'll be able to tell what the primo does or the anavar.
 
I think he's right and wrong.
For example.

You add Tren, you know if it's bunk or not. That's just Tren.
However, if you have test and Tren... I doubt you'll be able to tell what the primo does or the anavar.
When said like that, I absolutely agree. But then again, at that point, you'd be somewhat of a "veteran" in the aas field and would know which ugl brand is good and less good in regards to their compounds.

To me, it all comes down to how long you've been in this game. There can always be exceptions, though... such as a lab can go bad, scam and disapear really fast. Almost seems like a gamble regardless of what you do.
 
When said like that, I absolutely agree. But then again, at that point, you'd be somewhat of a "veteran" in the aas field and would know which ugl brand is good and less good in regards to their compounds.

To me, it all comes down to how long you've been in this game. There can always be exceptions, though... such as a lab can go bad, scam and disapear really fast. Almost seems like a gamble regardless of what you do.

I think vets can be the worst. What defines as a vet. A guy whose ran gear for years and years?
He might've blasted gear after gear and crazy doses?
I think "feeling" means shit.

Where he is right, you won't notice 500mg/test a week vs 750mg/test a week.
Then add in another compound and the lines get blurred.
Some guys run higher gear in place of diet/training.
Some guys just blast gear with little regard to their health/body.

I think that Vet thing, where they should be able to tell the difference is a load of crap.
You don't need to run high doses, you need to be smart and do more with little.

So it's a hard one.
 
I think vets can be the worst. What defines as a vet. A guy whose ran gear for years and years?
He might've blasted gear after gear and crazy doses?
I think "feeling" means shit.

Where he is right, you won't notice 500mg/test a week vs 750mg/test a week.
Then add in another compound and the lines get blurred.
Some guys run higher gear in place of diet/training.
Some guys just blast gear with little regard to their health/body.

I think that Vet thing, where they should be able to tell the difference is a load of crap.
You don't need to run high doses, you need to be smart and do more with little.

So it's a hard one.
Well, like in everything in life you can have people that know what they're doing and people that don't. The performance of an individual will vary depending on his knowledge.

When I said "vet", I meant it as someone that did his research. Not that he can "feel" it. I agree with you that that part is very unprobable... especially at the doses you've mentionned. By research, and as I've stated, I'm saying they've been in the game long enough to know which lab is good and which is less good.

I also agree with your statement about doses... I've ran two cycles of 300mg/week test with 50mg of anavar. One of 6 weeks and the other of 12 weeks. As you can see, running low doses and trying to get maximum gains is what I'm aiming for hahaha. Then again, it all depends on the goal... if my goal was to look like Ronnie, I'd have to change my dosage.
 
Well, like in everything in life you can have people that know what they're doing and people that don't. The performance of an individual will vary depending on his knowledge.

When I said "vet", I meant it as someone that did his research. Not that he can "feel" it. I agree with you that that part is very unprobable... especially at the doses you've mentionned. By research, and as I've stated, I'm saying they've been in the game long enough to know which lab is good and which is less good.

I also agree with your statement about doses... I've ran two cycles of 300mg/week test with 50mg of anavar. One of 6 weeks and the other of 12 weeks. As you can see, running low doses and trying to get maximum gains is what I'm aiming for hahaha. Then again, it all depends on the goal... if my goal was to look like Ronnie, I'd have to change my dosage.
I don't think people who takes 5 grams of gear along with GH, insulin, etc a week would look like Ronnie lol, dude was a complete freak of nature.
 
I don't think people who takes 5 grams of gear along with GH, insulin, etc a week would look like Ronnie lol, dude was a complete freak of nature.
Hahah that is true. But by looking like Ronnie, I meant to try and become a freak of nature. Even Ronnie wouldn't look like Mr. Olympia Ronnie if he only used, say, 300mg of test hahahha.
 
Just a update boys I started my sust and superdrol last Tuesday been crazy at work so haven’t eaten two well but I’m up 5lbs either way and back to eating well for the last few days... insane workouts yesterday did A killer workout and still didn’t get tired out ran out of time where normally I would be deflated pareto1 is real deal so far but like I said I will keep posting progress reports hope this helps
 
Pareto tren/mast a nice product, also Pareto test suspension is kick ass i hit a plateau then stacked this in definitely blew my hair back, will be grabbing these items next go , I used Pareto Winny as a pre-work out sparingly here and there I liked it for bicep work outs and some cardio sessions, it for some reason jolts me right away , have a great summer brother's.
 
Pareto tren/mast a nice product, also Pareto test suspension is kick ass i hit a plateau then stacked this in definitely blew my hair back, will be grabbing these items next go , I used Pareto Winny as a pre-work out sparingly here and there I liked it for bicep work outs and some cardio sessions, it for some reason jolts me right away , have a great summer brother's.
Is there Any pip with the test suspension?
 
I think vets can be the worst. What defines as a vet. A guy whose ran gear for years and years?
He might've blasted gear after gear and crazy doses?
I think "feeling" means shit.

Where he is right, you won't notice 500mg/test a week vs 750mg/test a week.
Then add in another compound and the lines get blurred.
Some guys run higher gear in place of diet/training.
Some guys just blast gear with little regard to their health/body.

I think that Vet thing, where they should be able to tell the difference is a load of crap.
You don't need to run high doses, you need to be smart and do more with little.

So it's a hard one.

Im a "vet" and I still think basics are best. One of my favourite cycles is still cyp and npp at not crazy high doses. Less is more. Those running over 1.5g a week is crazy, unless its EQ or primo, then thats different lol

But yes. Going by the feeling means shit. I've ran tren at 200mg eod and had no night sweats or insomnia. I looked like a god tho after 7 weeks so i think it worked :confused:o_O
 
Im a "vet" and I still think basics are best. One of my favourite cycles is still cyp and npp at not crazy high doses. Less is more. Those running over 1.5g a week is crazy, unless its EQ or primo, then thats different lol....


Mine is Test and Decca and my sweet spot is between .75 to 1 gram a week. Other favorite cycle is plan old Var at around 20-40/day, but then I'm a Var pig.
 
PS don't ever run tren ace that high. My kidneys took a sever beating. 100mg eod is more than enough if done with good diet and training lol

I like to finish up the last 2-4 weeks at 150 personally. But I don't usually go higher than that on Ace.
 
Should you do tren at the begining or at the end of your cycle? In a scenario where you're not running it all the way.

Lot's of depends.

Tren A or E
is there any goal at a certain point? (Photoshoot/competition)
Stacking with any other compounds?
Kickstarting with an oral? Finishing with an oral? Mid cycle oral?
 
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