MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals 2017
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EazyE
Well-known Member
Yes always talk to your rep first.
Why?
If you go through my comment/post history I have actually had bloods done and commended pareto previously on this thread for their Test E and it's legitimacy.
In fact I have also done so just for my experience in ordering from them in the past.
If my Clen isn't acting up to par why should I be hiding that?
It could be a genuine honest mistake and maybe I did get a bad batch that will get corrected, and if and when that does happen I will edit my post and let everyone know that all is good and they made up for whatever the issue was.
Giving only positive reviews and hiding the fake ones, how is that being honest?
This board is for honesty, because of the way this world works. Everything is underground, no one tests anything and the only way you can confirm whether something is safe or unsafe or effective or not is by being totally and completely honest.
I CHOSE Pareto because of the reviews and the popularity from this thread and forum, I hope that people haven't been hiding their negative experiences in the past because that muddies up any legitimacy.
I have nothing against Pareto whatsoever, in fact I look forward to using them again, but I am just being honest about my experiences here.
WCL
Well-known Member
I think it goes without saying that when you have any consumer item that doesn’t meet expectations, the most logical route is to take it back to the store and get a refund or replacement. Then, you can add that to your review what the reaction of the company was.
I think this goes for all products; Cars, electronics, etc
No need to hide anything, but it adds a more complete picture if you include their reaction, right?
Juicemonkeygear
Member
I agree with honest feedback and transparency so well said Czech boy. Pareto is nothing but class so I'm sure your criticism will be noted and situation rectified.
EazyE
Well-known Member
Totally agree talk to your rep first to make sure you are not missing any details and to see how their customer service is handled. You can still post the situation, but if I was repping I would like to know firsthand before others read about it in a forum so you don’t get blindsided. Common courtesy I would say.
Alright going to give this some closure.
Thanks all for your inputs and I see where both sides of the arguments are coming from.
I reached out to my rep yesterday and he has been just as mature, helpful and understanding of the situation as he has been about everything prior (exchanged over 50 mails with this guy over the past 6 months). Also he replies almost INSTANTANEOUSLY, which actually blows my mind!
Quick recap -
Again if someone checks my post history just in the past week or two you will notice I actually asked on this thread about Clen's legitimacy.
AFTER that is when I made my Clen experience post. The reason for it being so short and abrupt was because I was following up to my own previous post and discussion with the others we had just a page or so ago.
Reason I didn't bother contacting the rep immediately was because my cut is almost over, not enough time or need for Clen anymore and finally it wasn't like it was an injectable/Test E that was fake. That would absolutely be ringing alarm bells and I would have addressed that with them asap.
Also my cut is 500 mg Test E (from Pareto) & 320 mgs DNP(other source) and I have lost about 20lbs in less than 20 days yet and I have NEVER been this full and round and maintained as much LBM as before. So you KNOW their Test is legit. (Plus I've had bloods done for it previously and posted here.)
So one small experience with Clen wouldn't tarnish their reputation in my mind.
Currently -
I reached out to my rep yesterday, explained the situation, and he offered to not only send out another batch of the Clen tabs but ALSO a Clen Pen (which I feel would probably be the route I'd go).
Other noteworthy experiences with my rep/Pareto in the past :-
There was once some confusion of some sort on the pricing (things are different through etransfers and BTC) and to clarify the situation/keep the customer happy the man actually sent out my next runs package without charging for shipping.
ALSO, and this was the most surprising one for me was my first time ordering, the man at one point offered to send out to me about 300-450$ worth of gear BEFORE I could pay him. That was honestly shocking to me and I couldn't believe he/they could trust a first timer with that. I refused of course, but that kind of goodwill gesture set up a good amount of trust and faith in him/them right off the bat.
Or maybe it's just the Canadian way eh?
Mentioned this to someone else but might as well share the thought here...
Funny how people that have to be so hidden & discreet (all of us consumers and suppliers) are actually a lot more mature and have more integrity for interactions with one another than people you actually meet face to face IRL.
Thanks all for your inputs and I see where both sides of the arguments are coming from.
I reached out to my rep yesterday and he has been just as mature, helpful and understanding of the situation as he has been about everything prior (exchanged over 50 mails with this guy over the past 6 months). Also he replies almost INSTANTANEOUSLY, which actually blows my mind!
Quick recap -
Again if someone checks my post history just in the past week or two you will notice I actually asked on this thread about Clen's legitimacy.
AFTER that is when I made my Clen experience post. The reason for it being so short and abrupt was because I was following up to my own previous post and discussion with the others we had just a page or so ago.
Reason I didn't bother contacting the rep immediately was because my cut is almost over, not enough time or need for Clen anymore and finally it wasn't like it was an injectable/Test E that was fake. That would absolutely be ringing alarm bells and I would have addressed that with them asap.
Also my cut is 500 mg Test E (from Pareto) & 320 mgs DNP(other source) and I have lost about 20lbs in less than 20 days yet and I have NEVER been this full and round and maintained as much LBM as before. So you KNOW their Test is legit. (Plus I've had bloods done for it previously and posted here.)
So one small experience with Clen wouldn't tarnish their reputation in my mind.
Currently -
I reached out to my rep yesterday, explained the situation, and he offered to not only send out another batch of the Clen tabs but ALSO a Clen Pen (which I feel would probably be the route I'd go).
Other noteworthy experiences with my rep/Pareto in the past :-
There was once some confusion of some sort on the pricing (things are different through etransfers and BTC) and to clarify the situation/keep the customer happy the man actually sent out my next runs package without charging for shipping.
ALSO, and this was the most surprising one for me was my first time ordering, the man at one point offered to send out to me about 300-450$ worth of gear BEFORE I could pay him. That was honestly shocking to me and I couldn't believe he/they could trust a first timer with that. I refused of course, but that kind of goodwill gesture set up a good amount of trust and faith in him/them right off the bat.
Or maybe it's just the Canadian way eh?
Mentioned this to someone else but might as well share the thought here...
Funny how people that have to be so hidden & discreet (all of us consumers and suppliers) are actually a lot more mature and have more integrity for interactions with one another than people you actually meet face to face IRL.
6FootFatty
Member
Guys. Quick question on Dbol. I’m running paretos Dbol at 40 mg day. It’s been 7 days. I’m up 7 lbs. Obviously I’m eating much more calories than I was. But not so much to warrant a 7 lb increase in 1 week.
Quick question. Should I bump it to 60 mg or just stay at 40 mg? I haven’t noticed any real strength gains as of yet. Would like some advice.
Quick question. Should I bump it to 60 mg or just stay at 40 mg? I haven’t noticed any real strength gains as of yet. Would like some advice.
7 lbs is 7 days on 40 mg, not bad
Stay the course, and in a week maybe adjust to taste
6FootFatty
Member
Thanks. What should the deciding factor be though? I haven’t noticed any signs of gyno. Only thing that’s going for me is weight gain which is mostly water. Are the gains on 60 mg compared to 40 mg worth the jump? Not really feeling like I’m on AAS at this point if you know what I mean.. I hear Dbol kicks in fast in terms of strength gains.
Deciding factor? How you feel after another week...
6FootFatty
Member
Lol ok.. fair enough. So I’ll hold it at 40 mg for now and report back at the end of next week.
MisterSuperGod
Well-known Member
That would be water weight, typical of Dbol. Stick with where you are. It's obviously doing what it's supposed to do and more isn't necessarily better. You're not having any negative sides from that dose, so best to keep it that way.
CanadianAnabolics
Banned
You are always going to have an increase in water weight instantly with products like Anadrol / DBOL. Simply monitor this as the weeks go by, however like others have stated 40mg/day is a good dosage.
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WCL
Well-known Member
That is awesome, glad to hear itAlright going to give this some closure.
Thanks all for your inputs and I see where both sides of the arguments are coming from.
I reached out to my rep yesterday and he has been just as mature, helpful and understanding of the situation as he has been about everything prior (exchanged over 50 mails with this guy over the past 6 months). Also he replies almost INSTANTANEOUSLY, which actually blows my mind!
Quick recap -
Again if someone checks my post history just in the past week or two you will notice I actually asked on this thread about Clen's legitimacy.
AFTER that is when I made my Clen experience post. The reason for it being so short and abrupt was because I was following up to my own previous post and discussion with the others we had just a page or so ago.
Reason I didn't bother contacting the rep immediately was because my cut is almost over, not enough time or need for Clen anymore and finally it wasn't like it was an injectable/Test E that was fake. That would absolutely be ringing alarm bells and I would have addressed that with them asap.
Also my cut is 500 mg Test E (from Pareto) & 320 mgs DNP(other source) and I have lost about 20lbs in less than 20 days yet and I have NEVER been this full and round and maintained as much LBM as before. So you KNOW their Test is legit. (Plus I've had bloods done for it previously and posted here.)
So one small experience with Clen wouldn't tarnish their reputation in my mind.
Currently -
I reached out to my rep yesterday, explained the situation, and he offered to not only send out another batch of the Clen tabs but ALSO a Clen Pen (which I feel would probably be the route I'd go).
Other noteworthy experiences with my rep/Pareto in the past :-
There was once some confusion of some sort on the pricing (things are different through etransfers and BTC) and to clarify the situation/keep the customer happy the man actually sent out my next runs package without charging for shipping.
ALSO, and this was the most surprising one for me was my first time ordering, the man at one point offered to send out to me about 300-450$ worth of gear BEFORE I could pay him. That was honestly shocking to me and I couldn't believe he/they could trust a first timer with that. I refused of course, but that kind of goodwill gesture set up a good amount of trust and faith in him/them right off the bat.
Or maybe it's just the Canadian way eh?
Mentioned this to someone else but might as well share the thought here...
Funny how people that have to be so hidden & discreet (all of us consumers and suppliers) are actually a lot more mature and have more integrity for interactions with one another than people you actually meet face to face IRL.
CanadaHumanGrade
Subscriber
Alright going to give this some closure.
Thanks all for your inputs and I see where both sides of the arguments are coming from.
I reached out to my rep yesterday and he has been just as mature, helpful and understanding of the situation as he has been about everything prior (exchanged over 50 mails with this guy over the past 6 months). Also he replies almost INSTANTANEOUSLY, which actually blows my mind!
Quick recap -
Again if someone checks my post history just in the past week or two you will notice I actually asked on this thread about Clen's legitimacy.
AFTER that is when I made my Clen experience post. The reason for it being so short and abrupt was because I was following up to my own previous post and discussion with the others we had just a page or so ago.
Reason I didn't bother contacting the rep immediately was because my cut is almost over, not enough time or need for Clen anymore and finally it wasn't like it was an injectable/Test E that was fake. That would absolutely be ringing alarm bells and I would have addressed that with them asap.
Also my cut is 500 mg Test E (from Pareto) & 320 mgs DNP(other source) and I have lost about 20lbs in less than 20 days yet and I have NEVER been this full and round and maintained as much LBM as before. So you KNOW their Test is legit. (Plus I've had bloods done for it previously and posted here.)
So one small experience with Clen wouldn't tarnish their reputation in my mind.
Currently -
I reached out to my rep yesterday, explained the situation, and he offered to not only send out another batch of the Clen tabs but ALSO a Clen Pen (which I feel would probably be the route I'd go).
Other noteworthy experiences with my rep/Pareto in the past :-
There was once some confusion of some sort on the pricing (things are different through etransfers and BTC) and to clarify the situation/keep the customer happy the man actually sent out my next runs package without charging for shipping.
ALSO, and this was the most surprising one for me was my first time ordering, the man at one point offered to send out to me about 300-450$ worth of gear BEFORE I could pay him. That was honestly shocking to me and I couldn't believe he/they could trust a first timer with that. I refused of course, but that kind of goodwill gesture set up a good amount of trust and faith in him/them right off the bat.
Or maybe it's just the Canadian way eh?
Mentioned this to someone else but might as well share the thought here...
Funny how people that have to be so hidden & discreet (all of us consumers and suppliers) are actually a lot more mature and have more integrity for interactions with one another than people you actually meet face to face IRL.
This is how things should be handled. Well done to yourself and Pareto rep
.Good deal, I'm broke but I stocked up with lots of test all year I wish I could make a order, Pareto are cool dudes , if you ever get the chance try the test suspension, the suspension I had , had no pip and fast acting and fast out , I like the milky look in the syringe but ya gotta hit fast or it crystalizes , merry Christmas brother's
rufflesbaby
Member
Hey bro I've taken Pareto Dbol twice now on seperate cycles.. Both times my strength went up insane amounts, Every workout I became stronger It was the most insane thing I've ever experienced lol. I also only took 20-30mg/day. It's strange to me you haven't seen noticeable strength gains in even 7 days taking 40mg =P
Tyler Max
New Member
Just wanted to give a quick update, have been on 12 week Test E 500/week + HCG, both from pareto. Had an amazing run, my diet was not on point, and had couple business trips in between. But hell, the results are still great!
I would strongly suggest Pareto, not only for top level gear but also for the amazing professionalism and friendliness that you will be treated to, that is so seldomly portrayed around our sport.
I would strongly suggest Pareto, not only for top level gear but also for the amazing professionalism and friendliness that you will be treated to, that is so seldomly portrayed around our sport.
6FootFatty
Member
I’m 3 weeks in. Up 15.5 lbs. Strength has gone up a bit. Can definitely tell I’ve added size. No gyno. Stomach is bloated a bit. Nothing drastic. 3 weeks left.
