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Be careful with the tren if its legit! I can honestly say I will never touch tren again! I ran tren on a keto cut 250 test, 250 tren and did not feel any side effects other than a bit of tren cough. I stayed decently full on absolutely zero carbs and made some lean gains even in a caloric deficit, but it was nothing in comparison to what I was expecting from all the hype.

So after 4 weeks I said fuck it, and bumped it up to 500 a week. L M A O. WHAT A MISTAKE. I ran that dose for 2-3 weeks and I was a complete mess. I did not notice it at the time but I became completely insane. Sleeping barely 2-3 hours a day sometimes I would go almost 3 days without sleep. I was so emotional and sleeve deprived I would randomly cry and call up ex girlfriends and tell them that I loved them lmfao!!

Then.. My dick stopped working. Not sure if it was a mental thing or an anxiety/sleep deprived/stress episode. I was running prami and a very low dose of aromasin. In a fit on confusion and frustration I began upping the dose on the prami... then the aromasin... then I added arimidex... then came the letro. By the end of 3 weeks running 500 test my e2 levels were demolished, I was borderline schizophrenic and paranoid.... Welp, I definitely learned my lesson. Ahahahahahahaha. May the force be with you!
Daaayummmm!!! :eek:
 
Tren isn't that bad for me. I hear all the horror stories, but you have to see for yourself. Start low and go slow. Trensomnia, lowered cardio performance, and the sweats are all very real. But for me at least, the mental stuff is overblown.
 
Same for me. Didnt really get sides from tren. I only run it 1 time and I uped to almost 1g a week and didnt get trouble.
 
Be careful with the tren if its legit! I can honestly say I will never touch tren again! I ran tren on a keto cut 250 test, 250 tren and did not feel any side effects other than a bit of tren cough. I stayed decently full on absolutely zero carbs and made some lean gains even in a caloric deficit, but it was nothing in comparison to what I was expecting from all the hype.

So after 4 weeks I said fuck it, and bumped it up to 500 a week. L M A O. WHAT A MISTAKE. I ran that dose for 2-3 weeks and I was a complete mess. I did not notice it at the time but I became completely insane. Sleeping barely 2-3 hours a day sometimes I would go almost 3 days without sleep. I was so emotional and sleeve deprived I would randomly cry and call up ex girlfriends and tell them that I loved them lmfao!!

Then.. My dick stopped working. Not sure if it was a mental thing or an anxiety/sleep deprived/stress episode. I was running prami and a very low dose of aromasin. In a fit on confusion and frustration I began upping the dose on the prami... then the aromasin... then I added arimidex... then came the letro. By the end of 3 weeks running 500 test my e2 levels were demolished, I was borderline schizophrenic and paranoid.... Welp, I definitely learned my lesson. Ahahahahahahaha. May the force be with you!

Sounds like you didn't know what you were doing.
 
Where do you Canadian guys get your raloxifine? I'd never even heard of it until I joined Meso. I heard somewhere you can just buy it OTC? That doesn't sound right.
 
There is no chance in hell any SERM would ever be OTC. You'd probably need to provide bloodwork to your doctor and come clean about your steroidal exploits.
 
Or, ya know, buy it from pharmacist.

I have found Pharmacist awesome to deal with. I had a bunch of questions regarding BP and he took the time to chat back and forth to find a product that would best fit my needs. I also get a very safe and secure feeling dealing with Pharmacist.
 
Anyone here have experience with NPP? Thinking about running it for my future second cycle.
I've ran it, what do you want to know exactly? My shoulders have never been fuller and sexier than when I was on NPP.
 
I've ran it, what do you want to know exactly? My shoulders have never been fuller and sexier than when I was on NPP.

Initially I was going to try tren but I figured NPP/DECA is the more mild nandrolone so I'd go with that first.

Any negative side effects?
Issues controlling prolactin?
Did it increase you estradiol?
Did you run caber?
Issues recovering?
Are you on TRT?
How long did you run it, and at what dose?
 
Ran it for 5weeks at 400 p/w. I was taking other compounds at the time so I couldn't tell you which side effects came from what. I didn't run caber the first time and I ended up pretty bloated. I took it the second time though. Had no issues recovering. Bloodwork confirmed my test was almost exactly the same as before. Not on TRT.
Many many people report having a hard time recovering from deca so go NPP if you can.
 
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