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Hope you follow through with this. Pareto seemed to be bunk when I tried it but I appear to be the only one who has had that experience so I'm hoping I'm just an unlucky fuck who got a bad batch (the raws they were made with - assuming from China)

Ive used pareto a few times. Never had an issue. Im shocked to hear anyone complain honestly
 
How could you have some to this conclusion already? The guy hasn't even posted details yet.

First Pareto isn't bunk.
2nd, he's in multiple threads saying the same shit. Now in Genetec making the same claim.
Fishing for a source, but going all around it wrong.
 
First Pareto isn't bunk.
2nd, he's in multiple threads saying the same shit. Now in Genetec making the same claim.
Fishing for a source, but going all around it wrong.
Pareto as a whole isn't bunk, doesn't mean his batch wasn't compromised by bad raws or the brewer making a mistake or mislabeled vials.

Your other points are valid enough.
 
Pareto as a whole isn't bunk, doesn't mean his batch wasn't compromised by bad raws or the brewer making a mistake or mislabeled vials.

Your other points are valid enough.

Not that it matters, but Pareto just did 5 raw's tested in January of this year which probably would carry them awhile. I can attach them for you to see all came back good.
And if you have a doubt, i'll mail any product tomorrow for testing to prove my point.

As it always could happen...i'd be seriously surprised.

And after all the other posts i'm pretty sure it's the other side of things as in the user.
 
I'd be very surprised too but jumping to conclusions is not the way we should be thinking just because a company has a good rep. The more experienced the user, the more you should know that. The guy clearly knows next to nothing about AAS but that doesn't mean we side with a source instantly before the guy even gets to explain himself. Thats not how its ever been done.
 
Pareto had some issues long ago with a batch of T400, I got some of those but it was promptly took care of, as usual Pareto customer service was great for me.

After that I've been using Pareto for 2 or 3 year I believe no one issues at all
 
And if there were issues there would be more than one person complaining about that batch I'd think. Usually labs make batches of a few hundred. Odd that only one or two bottles out of that would be bunk. Just sayin
 
I agree with all of you tbh. I just know if I came on here and had some concerns and the instant reaction was 'uh, dont think so bud. theyre a solid lab' I'd be pretty peeved.
 
.... Pareto seemed to be bunk when I tried it but I appear to be the only one who has had that experience so I'm hoping I'm just an unlucky fuck who got a bad batch (the raws they were made with - assuming from China)

You need to follow up with Pareto with this. Send Pareto a copy of the lab tests and get this straightened out right away!
 
You need to follow up with Pareto with this. Send Pareto a copy of the lab tests and get this straightened out right away!

I bet the user is going by feel rather than blood work or testing (which no one other than meso users seem to use).

Not ruling out his experience- I know that not every compound gets tested but if something does go wrong the best thing to do is contact the lab and see what can be done. Pareto has one of the most solid track records for the recent past for the Canadian market, but I doubt they are perfect.

However, if no one ever complains if there is an issue, then in the labs eyes there is no issue. Pareto does not synthesize their raws, thus it is an area of weakness in QC. But this is evident with every operation, so it is imperative that EVERY complaint is taken seriously and followed up on.
 
I bet the user is going by feel rather than blood work or testing (which no one other than meso users seem to use).

Not ruling out his experience- I know that not every compound gets tested but if something does go wrong the best thing to do is contact the lab and see what can be done. Pareto has one of the most solid track records for the recent past for the Canadian market, but I doubt they are perfect.

However, if no one ever complains if there is an issue, then in the labs eyes there is no issue. Pareto does not synthesize their raws, thus it is an area of weakness in QC. But this is evident with every operation, so it is imperative that EVERY complaint is taken seriously and followed up on.

I agree, but before a person is going to complain on a open forum contact the lab to try and resolve the issue, and have something that validates the statements that are being made.
 
I agree, but before a person is going to complain on a open forum contact the lab to try and resolve the issue, and have something that validates the statements that are being made.

We are on the same page. What I mean to say is, if you never tell the lab or rep you purchased from, how can they be expected to know? Not everyone trolls the internet for reviews, and can connect a username to a purchase and a particular time.
 
Thought I'd post my reply about Synthetine here as well.

"I'm having pretty good results, but again I don't know if it's because of the injectable Carnitine or not. I assume it's helping me, because yesterday I did a check up with my trainer and he pretty much shat bricks. Lowered my bf % from 13.5 to 11.2 in 6 weeks (last time I saw him was 15th or 16th of March). I also dropped down from 235 to 220-223 weight wise.

Goal is to hit 200 pounds or less and be at 6-7%. I want to be shredded as fuck hahaha."
 
Thought I'd post my reply about Synthetine here as well.

"I'm having pretty good results, but again I don't know if it's because of the injectable Carnitine or not. I assume it's helping me, because yesterday I did a check up with my trainer and he pretty much shat bricks. Lowered my bf % from 13.5 to 11.2 in 6 weeks (last time I saw him was 15th or 16th of March). I also dropped down from 235 to 220-223 weight wise.

Goal is to hit 200 pounds or less and be at 6-7%. I want to be shredded as fuck hahaha."

15(ish) pounds in 6 weeks. Little more than 2 pounds per week lost. Nice job. You're obviously on the right track.
 
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