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I've only used 1 other lab called syntex anabolics and it sucked. switched to pareto,only 3 weeks in but good so far. weird thing is,0 aggression some how on tren
 
I've only used 1 other lab called syntex anabolics and it sucked. switched to pareto,only 3 weeks in but good so far. weird thing is,0 aggression some how on tren

Have you used tren before, first runs I made with Tren were fine, third was bad, fourth I swear my wife to never touch it anymore
 
Funny you mention that I'm at the tail end of a tren cycle (other compounds too) night sweats and lack of sleep is really affecting me. Mind you there are some other outside factors going on my life. Pulling bloods tomorrow, might even skip my last injection.
 
1 cycle 300 test c and 300 tren e. I snapped a few times. this cycle 500 test e 500 tren e. nothing. not even sweating lol really weird. but only 3 weeks in so that could change. only issues are no appetite and really lazy. but that could be the mk677
 
1 cycle 300 test c and 300 tren e. I snapped a few times. this cycle 500 test e 500 tren e. nothing. not even sweating lol really weird. but only 3 weeks in so that could change. only issues are no appetite and really lazy. but that could be the mk677

These two compounds are long ester, you should feel something around week 4 or 5 also mk should increase your appetite not suppress.

Anyway, lethargy is definitely something that mk can cause, I can't handle mk in the morning, only before bad
 
also using 60mg tbol. 500 Iu hcg. have amarosin but havnt used it. I just started the mk Thursday. I tried taking 22mg,splitting it, tried 1,15mg,nothing. just went to 30mg in the am. still not crazy hungry. got some shitty heartburn though
 
also using 60mg tbol. 500 Iu hcg. have amarosin but havnt used it. I just started the mk Thursday. I tried taking 22mg,splitting it, tried 1,15mg,nothing. just went to 30mg in the am. still not crazy hungry. got some shitty heartburn though

Hehe, your simple test /tren cycle now is test, tren, hcg, tbol, mk...

Since you didn't know that tren e needs fee weeks to kick I think you should do some more research for your stack on how they reacts to each other.

Mk also can take a while to show you some changes, it's a sarm depending on your system the results can vary

Anyway, good luck man
 
Have you used tren before, first runs I made with Tren were fine, third was bad, fourth I swear my wife to never touch it anymore
Interesting- my first tren run was insanely smooth. Second... not so much. Although it won’t matter, I’m just curious... did you use the same ester during all tren runs?
 
Interesting- my first tren run was insanely smooth. Second... not so much. Although it won’t matter, I’m just curious... did you use the same ester during all tren runs?

Yes, I pretty much have used only Pareto, and boss before it

So I guess it should be the same tren
 
Yes, I pretty much have used only Pareto, and boss before it

So I guess it should be the same tren
Sorry I meant ester, which ester version of tren did you use ?
For me
first run was ace, 300mg = cake walk
Second run was enanthate, 375mg = nightmare lol
 
Sorry I meant ester, which ester version of tren did you use ?
For me
first run was ace, 300mg = cake walk
Second run was enanthate, 375mg = nightmare lol

To be really honest I can be wrong, but I mostly run long esters not big fun of pin every other day
 
I can be wrong but wintrol helps you with explosion I think it kills you for endurance sports

Like a 100m runner would have great benefit, a marathon running would have problems running it

May be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Stanozolol works like that
This is absolute true. When Ben Johnson broke the 100 meter dash record in 88 they found Winstrol in his system.
 
also using 60mg tbol. 500 Iu hcg. have amarosin but havnt used it. I just started the mk Thursday. I tried taking 22mg,splitting it, tried 1,15mg,nothing. just went to 30mg in the am. still not crazy hungry. got some shitty heartburn though
I made a post about this in another thread and I used to get similar sides with tren especially the heartburn. Lethargy could be both the mk and tbol. I'd drop the tbol. Not sure why your taking mk if you're cutting either. But back to the tren sides. What worked for me is supplementation of t3. I read that it suppresses your thyroid and 25mcg of t3 daily did wonders almost immediately. Glutamine supplementation is a must approx 25 grams daily. A good probiotic and apple cider vinegar to alkaline body and your golden. Give it a shot. I couldn't eat for shit on tren and felt fucked with digestion issues. Now the only sided I get is an erection that rarely goes down and hot all the time just burning fat at all times. Also I always run ace and start low and slowly taper up to .5cc daily. Daily shots are key too.
 
I made a post about this in another thread and I used to get similar sides with tren especially the heartburn. Lethargy could be both the mk and tbol. I'd drop the tbol. Not sure why your taking mk if you're cutting either. But back to the tren sides. What worked for me is supplementation of t3. I read that it suppresses your thyroid and 25mcg of t3 daily did wonders almost immediately. Glutamine supplementation is a must approx 25 grams daily. A good probiotic and apple cider vinegar to alkaline body and your golden. Give it a shot. I couldn't eat for shit on tren and felt fucked with digestion issues. Now the only sided I get is an erection that rarely goes down and hot all the time just burning fat at all times. Also I always run ace and start low and slowly taper up to .5cc daily. Daily shots are key too.

actually dropped the mk677 2 days ago and I noticed last night I was feeling much better. it never even made me hungry either. I'm using tren e,cant use ace as I'm.not home daily to use it. I do have a bunch of glutamine akg. I will try using more of that daily. I was trying a bulk but I guess tbol isnt that best choice for that. I'll likely just stick to a cut this time around. what did the t3 do as far as helping tren sides?
 
What does that even mean? Oil is oil
You do realize there's different types of carrier for the oil? For example almond oil is one, now if you were allergic to almonds and you injected that what do you think would happen? Personally I like to know what I'm injecting to my body.
 
You do realize there's different types of carrier for the oil? For example almond oil is one, now if you were allergic to almonds and you injected that what do you think would happen? Personally I like to know what I'm injecting to my body.

And that has what to do with the age of oils Pareto is using exactly?
 
You do realize there's different types of carrier for the oil? For example almond oil is one, now if you were allergic to almonds and you injected that what do you think would happen? Personally I like to know what I'm injecting to my body.

Grape seed oil is the best oil you can use for the majority of the population. The convenience of mct or miglyol is not worth the small amount of complaints you get from using it. In my opinion at least


Also, the lethargy from mk677 is real. I slept until 1pm today and my leg day was gruelling.
 
I totally agree GSO is the most tolerated oil over all. How much mk-677 are you running? Are you splitting the dose up? I found taking it just before bed was the best for me
 
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