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[Devil3]

I totally agree with you devil3 Pareto has the same prices The question is is the price worth the quality
Did you try the Inno test E ?

Which is why I have no interest in Pareto. Heard they're good. But Teragon was also good to me and look at their reputation now...

I can't comment on inno as I havnt tried them. But I'll say this; hopped on the Newport train like the rest of Canada just to realize it's the same quality as 90% of UGL's.

I said it once I'll say it again. People are having the wool pulled over their eyes

 

[rdjp15]

so you're saying, if a guy only did 10 week EQ only cycles, say 10 weeks on 10 weeks off, at 900 mg EQ his physique would be exactly the same as a natty? Since the 10 week cycles won't show "any results?"

No that's not what I'm saying all I'm saying at 10 weeks you may see some results but the difference in results between week 16 and week 20 Will be way more dramatic
From all the reading and research that I've done 10 weeks is not long enough for an EQ cycle you might see some results but it won't be anything near as impressive as far as vascularity and lean muscle between 16 to 20 weeks

 

[CdnGuy]

so you're saying, if a guy only did 10 week EQ only cycles, say 10 weeks on 10 weeks off, at 900 mg EQ his physique would be exactly the same as a natty? Since the 10 week cycles won't show "any results?"

I don't know never tried man haha Cuz guy's that use it understand what it is required to taking it

 

[rdjp15]

No that's not what I'm saying all I'm saying at 10 weeks you may see some results but the difference in results between week 16 and week 20 Will be way more dramatic
From all the reading and research that I've done 10 weeks is not long enough for an EQ cycle you might see some results but it won't be anything near as impressive as far as vascularity and lean muscle between 16 to 20 weeks

The only thing that I was questioning from your first reply as far as EQ was the dosages
I wasn't sure on the dosages
It all comes down to the quality and where you get your EQ

 

[Ackmud]

No that's not what I'm saying all I'm saying at 10 weeks you may see some results but the difference in results between week 16 and week 20 Will be way more dramatic
From all the reading and research that I've done 10 weeks is not long enough for an EQ cycle you might see some results but it won't be anything near as impressive as far as vascularity and lean muscle between 16 to 20 weeks

ok that's fair enough - but it's not what you said earlier- you were saying there would be No results at all at 10 weeks.

 

[rdjp15]

ok that's fair enough - but it's not what you said earlier- you were saying there would be No results at all at 10 weeks.

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Sorry my bad
Just so you guys all know I'm not trying to argue with anybody I'm just looking to learn more and read and research
It's a never ending process
This UGL thing is all kind of new to me

 

[Ackmud]

Sorry my bad
Just so you guys all know I'm not trying to argue with anybody I'm just looking to learn more and read and research
It's a never ending process
This UGL thing is all kind of new to me

no need to apologize man I'm just having fun here by being overly anal

 

[rdjp15]

no need to apologize man I'm just having fun here by being overly anal

Lol ok

 

[Ackmud]

as for the price debates/questions, I don't think an extra $10 a vial is a big deal but I also think it's naive to assume that because Lab A or Lab B change an extra $10 per vial it somehow implies their quality should be better either. If that was the case no one would be buying $60 vials - it's not as though we can't afford the extra $10 per vial lol.

It's like getting groceries from Superstore vs Sobeys - one is slightly more expensive but that doesn't mean the food is any better or you get better gains if you shop at the more expensive one.

 

[Devil3]

as for the price debates/questions, I don't think an extra $10 a vial is a big deal but I also think it's naive to assume that because Lab A or Lab B change an extra $10 per vial it somehow implies their quality should be better either. If that was the case no one would be buying $60 vials - it's not as though we can't afford the extra $10 per vial lol.

It's like getting groceries from Superstore vs Sobeys - one is slightly more expensive but that doesn't mean the food is any better or you get better gains if you shop at the more expensive one.

WHY spend MORE when you get the SAME results for LESS.

And how small are ones orders to not care about a $10 markup per item? Let's do the math.

10 items.
$10 markup an item.
*cue Jeapordy soundtrack*

That's a whole $100 you just saved!!! Which would get you two other items from another UGL, and that extra item could qualify you for a bulk discount/free item! See how it snowballs into a better life, by NOT blowing your hard earned money just because you "can".

The only way for a UGL to lower its prices is for the end user to pull the wool out in front of their eyes and see what is in front of them. The only way they will know is by reading these posts. So I agree with you @Ackmud , the price is in a category all in its own, the quality is another; the relevance between the two is NON-EXISTANT

Edit: I have to add that I've heard some pvt labs are a bit pricier, but I wouldn't know. Don't deal pvt.

 

[Ackmud]

WHY spend MORE when you get the SAME results for LESS.

And how small are ones orders to not care about a $10 markup per item? Let's do the math.

10 items.
$10 markup an item.
*cue Jeapordy soundtrack*

That's a whole $100 you just saved!!! Which would get you two other items from another UGL, and that extra item could qualify you for a bulk discount/free item! See how it snowballs into a better life, by NOT blowing your hard earned money just because you "can".

The only way for a UGL to lower its prices is for the end user to pull the wool out in front of their eyes and see what is in front of them. The only way they will know is by reading these posts. So I agree with you @Ackmud , the price is in a category all in its own, the quality is another; the relevance between the two is NON-EXISTANT

Edit: I have to add that I've heard some pvt labs are a bit pricier, but I wouldn't know. Don't deal pvt.

If my source randomly increased the price on me by $10-15 an item I would still stay, since I trust the source, am happy with the service and I'd rather not have the inconvenience of trying a new source which I may or may not like.

But if I was looking for a new source then of course it would be mind boggling to intentionally pick one that's $10 more per vial - because like we agreed on an increased price doesn't mean better gear.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Fact huh well i just thought of something why don't we ask Newport lol @Northern Nutrition is that true sir?

It seems every few months someone is suggesting that such and such a lab is connected to Newport. There are no other labs connected, affiliated, or represented by Newport. The transparent truth is, there just isn't enough hours in a day to even think about running another lab besides Newport. Its arguably one of the busiest and most successful UGL's in Canada.

And while were on the subject, someone made a reference REPUTATION and suggesting that wasn't good enough. How do you think a lab achieves a solid reputation? Its not just by price alone, and it's certainly not over night. If that were the case, every tom dick and harry making steroids in their bathtubs would be "solid".

A reputation is developed over time with professional and responsible representatives who are there for you every step of the way. Not only do they provide fast reliable service and a quality product, but communicate effectively and provide assistance in every area regarding steroids - including diet, exercise, and the safe proper use of AAS. They also correct any issues as quickly as possible and never leave a client unhappy. THIS, imho, is how a REPUTATION is developed.

 

[CdnGuy]

It seems every few months someone is suggesting that such and such a lab is connected to Newport. There are no other labs connected, affiliated, or represented by Newport. The transparent truth is, there just isn't enough hours in a day to even think about running another lab besides Newport. Its arguably one of the busiest and most successful UGL's in Canada.

And while were on the subject, someone made a reference REPUTATION and suggesting that wasn't good enough. How do you think a lab achieves a solid reputation? Its not just by price alone, and it's certainly not over night. If that were the case, every tom dick and harry making steroids in their bathtubs would be "solid".

A reputation is developed over time with professional and responsible representatives who are there for you every step of the way. Not only do they provide fast reliable service and a quality product, but communicate effectively and provide assistance in every area regarding steroids - including diet, exercise, and the safe proper use of AAS. They also correct any issues as quickly as possible and never leave a client unhappy. THIS, imho, is how a REPUTATION is developed.

Thank you good sir didn't want to speculate for once haha Instead get it straight from the horses mouth

 

[Devil3]

If my source randomly increased the price on me by $10-15 an item I would still stay

If your source brought the price of a test e from $70 to $85, you'd stay?

I think you're too loyal man... labs exist to make money. Money makes the world go round. Whether or not they are professional is irrelevant. The soul purpose is for income. Nobody does this for fun, they do it to increase their pocket depth. There will always be an affordable lab out there that gives the same results. Always. I get hopping between labs can be a pain, but you don't owe a lab anything! You paid their bills already. I switch whenever I feel their quality is dropping, or word on the grapevine is they had bad batches so I don't buy that compound from them.

 

[Ackmud]

It seems every few months someone is suggesting that such and such a lab is connected to Newport. There are no other labs connected, affiliated, or represented by Newport.

To clarify my post, I never did say or imply that any lab is currently connected, affiliated or represented by Newport. On the contrary I said the current Medistar and Newport are separate labs.

I did post that Newport was the "previous Medistar" approx 10 years ago, which wasn't meant in a negative or offensive way either, so hope none was taken.

 

[Ackmud]

If your source brought the price of a test e from $70 to $85, you'd stay?

Definitely, the price of AAS is a small part of overall costs. How many vials or oral packs do you go through in a year? It might cost an extra $300 over the course of a year? Same price as the decision of a room upgrade or not while on holidays. Small price to pay if it gives you comfort that you won't have PIP or questionable gear for a full twelve months.

 

[CdnGuy]

@Northern Nutrition I have to be honest though. Newport prices are outta whack! But people will pay, so it is what it is.

 

[Cownan]

I heard the story of how Newport started Medistar. Bowed out for awhile and then started the new lab Newport which I have good reason to think its true. True or not does it really matter? Newport owners could have started 10 labs and it doesnt matter. They run NP now and thats that, prices are a little high for what it is but it is solid gear. But I wouldnt say they are the busiest and most successful of labs. There are other labs that would give them a run for their money, but again I dont care about whos the best. Just whos consistent. Which NP, Nordic, pareto and misson (old boss) have been for me over the years

The thing with NP that I have the biggest problem with is they always preach how they are the best. Not taking away that they are great in any means, but i like those that are humble with work. You never see mission saying that they are number 1 ever...

But on the flip side with this statement from NN I do have a lot of respect and do understand that loyalty is earned.

"A reputation is developed over time with professional and responsible representatives who are there for you every step of the way. Not only do they provide fast reliable service and a quality product, but communicate effectively and provide assistance in every area regarding steroids - including diet, exercise, and the safe proper use of AAS. They also correct any issues as quickly as possible and never leave a client unhappy. THIS, imho, is how a REPUTATION is developed."

This was well written NN and i agree 100%

 

[Megadick3000]

If that were the case, every tom dick and harry making steroids in their bathtubs would be "solid".

Bath tubs? Fuck, ive been using my toilet. Btw guys checkout my new UGL "Bathroom Brews", guaranteed less than 5% fecal content or you get 25% off your next order.

 

[Megadick3000]

And correct me if im wrong ladies, but inno is Canadas longest running UGL that im aware of whose still in biz. Not only that, but inno used to be (originally) QFS. QFS changed their name to inno after their remailer got popped back in the early 2k. That remailer (ghost) ran the mavericks forum that was more or less QFS' discussion forum. Mavs disappeared when ghost got popped.

If your truly Canadian OG youll know the name QFS. For as long as innos been in business (im estimating 15+ years including as QFS) ive never really seen their reputation take a hit. I also knew the owner pretty well through forums and he was a pretty solid guy who had a very genuine interest in pharma compounding.

Dont misconstrue me as a fan boi though, ive not bought from them in a decade, nor have i spoken to the owner in as long, but ive always had a fondness for what they do. They used to have a way cooler lineup back in the day including products such as:
Injectable ATP
Injectable DADA
Cyclodextrin encapsulated freebase steroids dissolved in water (cyclotest for example)