can’t stay asleep

[5TheNegative]

No mention of DSIP? Does not put me to sleep, but it keeps me asleep and drops my overnight RHR from 74 to 62. Which is great since my usual off cycle RHR is low to mid 50s.

 

[Ateam2023]

No mention of DSIP? Does not put me to sleep, but it keeps me asleep and drops my overnight RHR from 74 to 62. Which is great since my usual off cycle RHR is low to mid 50s.

Dsip hasn't done shit for me I guess it works for some people

 

[syuri]

Well to clarify, I don't know what it was that made me groggy. I'm going to bust this stack back out tonight and give it another shot and then drop the Apigenin tomorrow night and see if the grogginess goes away. It helped, but I seem to recall it lost effectiveness pretty quick over a few nights.

Keep an update here! Interested to see how it goes.

 

[syuri]

Dsip hasn't done shit for me I guess it works for some people

I bought a single vial from a reseller for $20. Could've spent that money on gas.

Didn't work for me either. I've seen and heard more promising things on Epitalon. Wouldn't risk blowing more money on it though lmao

 

[5TheNegative]

I bought a single vial from a reseller for $20. Could've spent that money on gas.

Didn't work for me either. I've seen and heard more promising things on Epitalon. Wouldn't risk blowing more money on it though lmao

Fair enough.

I also did not expect it to do anything, but it's been a consistent result for the last week so I am going to run the vial dry and then see what happens when I stop using it.

 

[Ateam2023]

Fair enough.

I also did not expect it to do anything, but it's been a consistent result for the last week so I am going to run the vial dry and then see what happens when I stop using it.

What dose are you running?

 

[5TheNegative]

What dose are you running?

750mcg, did 250 the first night with nothing, 500 the second with a small drop in RHR. Then when I started 750mcg the 10+ drop began.

 

[nullandvoid]

Keep an update here! Interested to see how it goes.

I ended up going based on your information and just used Glycine and Theanine. Worked wonderfully and had quality, fast-onset, deep sleep... until 3AM. However, that was about six hours so meets sustainability for me. Just not ideal for the sake of sanity/boredom.

But like everything sleep-related, everything seems to work well just once or a few times and then fades. Without the Apigenin, I had zero grogginess, so I'm glad you mentioned it.

Going to keep going with the Glycine and Theanine and see how it goes this time around without the Apigenin.

 

[syuri]

My sleeo quality last night. 50 Trazodone and 15 Mirtazapine.

It’s 100% wrong though I woke around 12 to pee and it definitely didn’t record my awakening for some reason

Probably got 7 hours total. Still solid fortunately

 

[syuri]

In terms of sleep

I find 15mgs of Mirtaza so far to be the best to keep me down. If I do wake, it's shortlived and I can ease back into sleep just fine

I do feel groggy for a bit and my workout is a bit harder in the mornings, but by around 4 hours post waking up I'm totally fine.

I may stick to this for now but I am definitely going to give Lunesta a shot in the future

 

[Lampenschirm]

What helps me to maintain a certain sleep quality is 5mg of Melatonin and 50mg of Diphenhydraminhydrochlorid pre bed.

 

[snelly13]

No mention of DSIP? Does not put me to sleep, but it keeps me asleep and drops my overnight RHR from 74 to 62. Which is great since my usual off cycle RHR is low to mid 50s.

What's your dosage? How often do you take it?