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Hey everybody,
Figured I would drop back in for an update.
So after my first shot of 100mg, I felt worse! I was very upset about this and started second-guessing myself.
I then broke my next 100mg into two separate 50mg shots E3.5D. A few days after the second 50mg shot I started feeling different. At night I noticed some strong wood for the first time in a long time. Then I felt more energy and less depressed, but still very anxious. I also felt some weirdness in the chest area.
This led me to start doing 30mg EOD. After the first 30mg shot, I definitely felt the testosterone rising. More nighttime wood and I woke up the next day and realized that my joints felt much better. The severe cracking was down to mild cracking and I could actually get out of bed and did not feel like shutting myself away from the world.
I did another 30mg shot this morning and I continue to feel better as time goes on. I am very optimistic at this point.
I can feel the depression leaving, my thought patterns are changing, the anxiety is less intense, my joint problems are dissipating, and I just feel much more like myself. My chest hair has regrown completely and now my leg hair is coming back as well.
I still have ED and a low libido, but I have a feeling that I might have to wait for those problems to resolve. Also, I have about two more weeks until T cyp is stabilized in my system.
I will also be starting CBT (cognitive behavorial therapy) to help stomp out the lingering anxiety and depression, but I am sure that as the T shots keep doing their thing, I should see even more improvements psychologically.
So to sum it all up, I am making good progress only 3 weeks into TRT. I don't feel like superman, just more like my old self every day.
Glad to hear your treatment is being dialed in nicely. Mine is as well.
I would like to caution you on your dosing as I don't think pinning yourself three times a week is a good long term sustainable option. See if you can make do with two. I don't remember Chem, did you ever try testim?
Hey chem, thanks for the update. Are you doing subq? I assume you are. EOD IM shots would be a bit much.
I wonder why your ED and libido aren't resolving. Please keep us updated, and let us know if/when the libido kicks in.
Good luck, and glad to hear you are feeling better.
Speaking of Testim... i was thinking this morning, Testim was decent. Especially for libido.
The only shitty thing about Testim, is rubbing that shit in every morning, and worrying about transferring gel to your girl, and headaches about swimming, the beach, sweating it off during a workout. I think a compounded cream would be best.Too bad Testim doesn't come in a stronger concentration so you don't have to rub two things of "goop" on your arms everyday.
Hey everybody,
Figured I would drop back in for an update.
So after my first shot of 100mg, I felt worse! I was very upset about this and started second-guessing myself.
I then broke my next 100mg into two separate 50mg shots E3.5D. A few days after the second 50mg shot I started feeling different. At night I noticed some strong wood for the first time in a long time. Then I felt more energy and less depressed, but still very anxious. I also felt some weirdness in the chest area.
This led me to start doing 30mg EOD. After the first 30mg shot, I definitely felt the testosterone rising. More nighttime wood and I woke up the next day and realized that my joints felt much better. The severe cracking was down to mild cracking and I could actually get out of bed and did not feel like shutting myself away from the world.
I did another 30mg shot this morning and I continue to feel better as time goes on. I am very optimistic at this point.
I can feel the depression leaving, my thought patterns are changing, the anxiety is less intense, my joint problems are dissipating, and I just feel much more like myself. My chest hair has regrown completely and now my leg hair is coming back as well.
I still have ED and a low libido, but I have a feeling that I might have to wait for those problems to resolve. Also, I have about two more weeks until T cyp is stabilized in my system.
I will also be starting CBT (cognitive behavorial therapy) to help stomp out the lingering anxiety and depression, but I am sure that as the T shots keep doing their thing, I should see even more improvements psychologically.
So to sum it all up, I am making good progress only 3 weeks into TRT. I don't feel like superman, just more like my old self every day.
I thought I commented on this last night but must not have. Good to hear you are doing better. I caution you doing three shots a week as I don't think that is a sustainable long term solution. See if you can get down to 2 - 1. Have you tried testim?
Why is it not sustainable? How is 3 worse than 2-1?
Time and effort? Tissue damage from needles?
Remember that I am using 29g needles. I will also be moving to 31g needles when i run out of the 29g.
Total time for injection is under 10minutes/EOD. Small price for having my life back. I draw the oil with one hand and read my e-mail and check the news with the other. I am also trying to stay away from arimidex. If you remember, that stuff fucked me up like no other last summer.
As far as HCG goes, we'll cross that bridge when I get there. For now I need to get leveled out on T cyp and get some labs.
Libido: I am starting to dream about sex at night. Brain remodeling is occurring, During the day I think my libido is still dampened from the lingering anxiety. I have also noticed that when I get good sun exposure I start to get some horny feelings. Oral vitamin D DOES NOT have that affect for me.
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Yeah, I am just concerned with the 156 pins you will be doing per year.
Are you going right into the thigh? You and I are both young so I am starting to wonder about scar tissue/needle size, etc...
I double posted before. Whoops. Losing my mind. 
31 g needle is tiny. I've got 27 right now and I think they are tiny!
Why not stick with the 29's?
I'll give those a shot when I am done with the 27's.
31 g needle is tiny. I've got 27 right now and I think they are tiny!
Why not stick with the 29's?
I'll give those a shot when I am done with the 27's.
I am aiming for the vastus lateralis when I shoot.
I've been thinking about the scar tissue as well. Based on my painless experience with 29g, I think 31g should be a relatively benign intrusion.
Have you had any testicle shrinkage? I lost maybe 1/4 to 1/2 size but they seem to have stopped shrinking.
Let me know how the 31's go. Have you had any high e2 symptoms?
Since splitting up my injections to twice a week and utilizing adex .25 on my injection days my E2 seems to have stabilized...somewhere. I think it is in a good spot. I may be able to drop the adex completely. Getting more labs next Tuesday.
Yes some shrinkage.
High E2...maybe. I had some chest sensitivity. Could have been in my head but haven't felt it since moving to EOD dosing.
How often are you doing labs? My frickin Uro has me on the meet once/10wk plan. I think cyp stabilizes at 5-6 wks, so I'll probably do labs then and schedule an earlier appointment.
I did labs @ 4-5 weeks (can't quite remember) and we switched the dosing to from 200 @ 18 days to 200 @ 14. 3 weeks in from that change I am testing again. No set schedule, just kind of going by how i feel and if we feel I need more adjustment we re-test again a little bit down the road.
My next draw will be on the trough @ 100 mg per week.
How are you feeling cubbie?> Mood? Energy? Libido? Overall?
Haha Urologists are wacky like that. It was a uro who started me on t shots, which i was grateful for, but i didn't feel like he would give me the proper longterm care and attention.
I am under the supervision of a good endo now, and if my T levels drop below normal again, I am comfortable with taking treatment with him. The reason being, if i have an issue, or problem, I am confident he has the expertise to trouble shoot it. Which is important when doing a longterm treatment. This shit isn't for a month, or a year, its for life.
Everything is much improved. I still have some days where I feel like I am dragging energy wise but those seem to come less and less.
So I can definitely feel the T doing its thing about 5 weeks after starting TRT. It's really amazing how much better off I am psychologically now. People around me have noticed and commented that I am acting much more like my old self. I can work 40 hours/wk now. 5 weeks ago I could barely get out of bed. I am getting some morning/nighttime wood. It isn't very strong, but I am noticing it. Libido is still subpar, but I feel something stir inside me when I see a beautiful woman that I didn't feel before, so I know it's creeping back, just slowly.
But now on to the physiological. Before I started the TRT, I had some issues with hypoglycemia/questionable panic attacks. I thought that they might have been panic attacks, but I wasn't sure.
Now after starting TRT, I have been experiencing this hypoglycemia perhaps more often but without the accompanying intense anxiety. I get worried about what's going on, but I am able to handle it. It is frustrating, however. I feel like I need to eat almost constantly to avoid this. Yesterday I had to sprint out of my job to the cafeteria and get food asap. I almost fainted while paying for the food. An hour or so after eating I felt better. 3 hours ago I ate a dense calorie-laden pasta dish and I am feeling hungry again! I wonder if this is m_ob's "ravenous hunger"?
So I guess this is where the adrenal glands come into play. I think the T has fixed a lot of my problems, but I am not at that banging 100% yet. I'll be getting some labs on Monday morning to see what the 30mg EOD shots have done to my T levels. I am noticing some acne on my forehead, nothing crazy, and NOTHING compared to what I had before I did a few courses of accutane. Joints are healing, but slowly. I do have some swelling in my inner knees if I walk a lot, but I think this could be tied to low cortisol levels. I still know that I would be in a world of trouble if I did any exercise beyond walking a few miles, so I have further areas to explore beyond T replacement.
I am going to get in with a doc to look at my hypoglycemia more in depth. I am assuming that I need a 24h urinary cortisol, ACTH stim test, Glucose tolerance test, maybe some others. I also have ringing in my head.
Sorry I haven't been around much lately. Been busy with a new job, etc. which has really helped take my mind off of everything. I hope everybody is making progress in their pursuit of recovery and good health.
-Chem
But now on to the physiological. Before I started the TRT, I had some issues with hypoglycemia/questionable panic attacks. I thought that they might have been panic attacks, but I wasn't sure.
Now after starting TRT, I have been experiencing this hypoglycemia perhaps more often but without the accompanying intense anxiety. I get worried about what's going on, but I am able to handle it. It is frustrating, however. I feel like I need to eat almost constantly to avoid this. Yesterday I had to sprint out of my job to the cafeteria and get food asap. I almost fainted while paying for the food. An hour or so after eating I felt better. 3 hours ago I ate a dense calorie-laden pasta dish and I am feeling hungry again! I wonder if this is m_ob's "ravenous hunger"?
So I guess this is where the adrenal glands come into play. I think the T has fixed a lot of my problems, but I am not at that banging 100% yet. I'll be getting some labs on Monday morning to see what the 30mg EOD shots have done to my T levels. I am noticing some acne on my forehead, nothing crazy, and NOTHING compared to what I had before I did a few courses of accutane. Joints are healing, but slowly. I do have some swelling in my inner knees if I walk a lot, but I think this could be tied to low cortisol levels. I still know that I would be in a world of trouble if I did any exercise beyond walking a few miles, so I have further areas to explore beyond T replacement.
I am going to get in with a doc to look at my hypoglycemia more in depth. I am assuming that I need a 24h urinary cortisol, ACTH stim test, Glucose tolerance test, maybe some others. I also have ringing in my head.
Sorry I haven't been around much lately. Been busy with a new job, etc. which has really helped take my mind off of everything. I hope everybody is making progress in their pursuit of recovery and good health.
-Chem
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Good stuff man. It's good that you have a new job, and are keeping busy. It's good that you have more energy as well.
As for libido, please keep us posted. A normal/good libido should feel like you want to BANG beautiful women. When I was on Testim, I felt like I wanted to pick up hot chicks, toss 'em onto my bed, and dent the f**kin' headboard.
Its like a "primal desire" feeling.
Keep us posted...
As for libido, please keep us posted. A normal/good libido should feel like you want to BANG beautiful women. When I was on Testim, I felt like I wanted to pick up hot chicks, toss 'em onto my bed, and dent the f**kin' headboard.
Its like a "primal desire" feeling. Keep us posted...
hardasnails1973
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T is obviously helping some of the issues which are good and able to get you to function at normal level. The higher T may also be making you insulin resistant which due to not properly addressing the adrenals is now being more pronounced. I had a guy the once his TRT was adjusted properly it actually after 9 months when T was at healthy levels revealed a hidden thyroid. After looking into his eyes I saw the changed which prompted me to recheck the thyroid after a few month revealing hypothyroid. It could have been from his eating patterns and his training so retesting in another 4-6 weeks to see if it restablizes. Some times when levels are in upper range then it may uncover other things which have been hidden to other imbalances. Since you are not adding hcg then the dosage you are at is exceptable to compensate for lack of T from HCG.
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