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For safety reasons why not just do a strong eca stack.(still got about 2 months to get it)Studies show clen really puts a beating on the heart muscles which i beleive are permanant.Dont get me wrong clen works if you like the shakes and total body cramp.If you do clen supplement with Taurine to prevent cramping.tonybony said:I want to lean out before I mass up. Can I do a Clen only cycle?
My stats are 5"6" about 153# and 15% B.F. I want to get the fat down to 10% before I start adding size. I like the lean mucle (Soccer) look better than the bb look. Any suggeestions would be appreciated.
kemo said:Tony,
First, let me say that DNP is an advanced drug which can actually kill you. Now, with that said I do think if it is used properly it is one of the safest drugs you can use. As for effective, there is a stack of clinical proof that no substance is more effective than DNP.
If you want some guidance on DNP, do a search on my name, then look under the post for "DNP dosing question" it should be on page four....or follow this link:
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/760
As for Clen only, I am not a huge fan of that....They call it Clen"jitter"all for a reason. If you are going to go through all the sides you might want to do it in the most effective means possible.
Hope this helps,
Kemo
Actually, I hope it was from overdosing......if it wasn't from that, it would mean there are other hidden dangers to DNP I didn't know about it. If you use correct dosages, it should be a safe supplement.ThePatriot said:How so? I hope not from overdosing.
tonybony said:I want to lean out before I mass up. Can I do a Clen only cycle?
My stats are 5"6" about 153# and 15% B.F. I want to get the fat down to 10% before I start adding size. I like the lean mucle (Soccer) look better than the bb look. Any suggeestions would be appreciated.
Liquid clenbutrx has alot of good fat burners in it.I have used it.Tastes like shit though but will fire you up.Most OTC sites carry it.tonybony said:thanks for all the responses. I will read more and go from there. I am leaning against the clen only route. or clen at all. Maybe just the ECA stack. It has made more jumpy and grumpy in the past. Just what the world needs.... me with an attitude, jumping around like I have palsy or something. ( no offense)
Should I lean out first or try to add more lean muscle first?
