Could TMG and Indolplex/DIM drive up DHT.

This is why my Dr. lowered my HCG because my last test on E2 doing one pill of Indolplex/DIM and taking .5 Arimidex every other day my E2 was high 49 range <20 to 56 pg/mL and my DHT was 2205 range 36 to 573 pg/mL. I am not at a low level of E2 I can tell the difference. First thing that goes is my morning wood and I can't get it up for sex taking a pill. I don't have this problem. But I am having panic problems in the middle of the night if I take an Arimidex .5 mgs pill the panic goes away. The next thing will be to lower the T shots. It can be like you said 250 IU's is still good enough to keep my levels high and I think they are still to high. I lowered the HCG over 2 weeks a go I don't feel like I am crashing at all. I get my next test next Tue. then we will know. But in the mean time my to keep my E2 in the zone I am having to take more Arimidex. My Dr. is on top of this I am not taking anything that he has not told me to do. But man the weight loss has stopped and I am kicking ass in the gym on upping my load that I work out with so I am getting stronger fast.
 
pmgamer18 said:
This is why my Dr. lowered my HCG because my last test on E2 doing one pill of Indolplex/DIM and taking .5 Arimidex every other day my E2 was high 49 range <20 to 56 pg/mL and my DHT was 2205 range 36 to 573 pg/mL. I am not at a low level of E2 I can tell the difference. First thing that goes is my morning wood and I can't get it up for sex taking a pill. I don't have this problem. But I am having panic problems in the middle of the night if I take an Arimidex .5 mgs pill the panic goes away. The next thing will be to lower the T shots. It can be like you said 250 IU's is still good enough to keep my levels high and I think they are still to high. I lowered the HCG over 2 weeks a go I don't feel like I am crashing at all. I get my next test next Tue. then we will know. But in the mean time my to keep my E2 in the zone I am having to take more Arimidex. My Dr. is on top of this I am not taking anything that he has not told me to do. But man the weight loss has stopped and I am kicking ass in the gym on upping my load that I work out with so I am getting stronger fast.


You hit the main point that I was pointing towards:

E2 was high 49 range <20 to 56 pg/mL

49 is within the reference range, (not "high"). Somewhat above optimal levels? Sure. SWALE mentioned that he liked seeing E2 "around 35". I just find it unusual that you'd be getting these symptoms at this relatively moderate level of E2. Are you having any other symptoms of highly elevated E2? Moodiness? Hot flashes? Water weight retention? Nipple issues? Generally all of those surface before panic attacks would, so I wouldn't discount that it could be something else going on.

Also, I don't see where any of the adjustments that you're making would cause a "crash" of your E2. If anything, the amounts of Arimidex you're taking are more likely to lead to such a crash (which is another reason why controlling E2 by continuing to lower T would be a safer course of action).

BTW, if getting stronger faster is a primary objective then you should crank the T levels up even more (sounds like AAS thinking, no?)... but then that defeats the whole purpose of hormonal balance, since it would be likely to simply cause even more elevations of E2 and DHT.

Larry
 
Yes I have all of them sweating, red upper body, nipples hard and sore, rash, it is weird. I take the Arimidex at night so I don't have panic attacks and in the morning none of the about are there but by the time I eat dinner it starts up again.
 
pmgamer18 said:
Yes I have all of them sweating, red upper body, nipples hard and sore, rash, it is weird. I take the Arimidex at night so I don't have panic attacks and in the morning none of the about are there but by the time I eat dinner it starts up again.


Sounds no question then like yours is an E2 (elevated) issue. I cannot believe that arimidex - at the levels you;ve been using - hasn't brought the E2 way down.

Stumped.

:(

Larry
 
It is like I said I did not have this problem until I tried TMG now I am off it since the last test 3 weeks now. My Dr. wants to see what happens being of the TMG. And it did make me feel funny like I was on Prozac. What is one to do my DHT has never been that high over 2000 shit. I am not going to low in my E2 taking the Arimidex yet in the last 2 days I am now doing only 1/4 of a pill .25 mgs. Still that is a lot for everyday. I was in dam good shape this morning no feelings of high E2. So maybe it is calming down we will see tonight.
 
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