malfeasance
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Internet Stalk some of the competitors logs on here. Many of them are posting what they eat, and you catch sneaky tricks like Sweet Baby Ray's Barbecue Sauce with no sugar added to make food more palatable.
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Anabolic Steroids
Current cutting progress would like some advice.
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egruberman
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Does it make me an asshole then when I point out that a 20% variance in the caloric composition in food labels is acceptable?
The point is still valid, though. People often think they're in a deficit but fail to account for that 800 calorie drink they get from Starbucks every morning and wonder why they aren't losing weight.
Fattyone
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This is where consistency comes into play.
Idgaf how wrong the nutrition label is of chicken Turkey and rice. I weigh and eat the same amount day after day after day.
Exactly, for everyone who have done a couple of bulks and cuts, we know that eating the same amount and using the same measurement methodology and units will provide consistent numbers no matter what.
As long as there’s no variations, there will be no significant difference.
egruberman
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Yeah, I just had to play the 'well, actually' card. Fundamentally, the whole process is imprecise. It's impossible to precisely measure calories out and calories in is slightly less impossible, but you're right, consistency is key. Measure and eat the things consistently and if the scale is moving down week by week, congratulations, there's your deficit.
malfeasance
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It doesn't matter.
Why?
Because you are going to weigh it and enter it into MyFitnessPal. Who cares if it is off by 20%, let's say high? Now you have your calories in there this week.
You lose two pounds. Cool. Still tracking, and still recording with that 20% high number.
Next week, however, you stall. So you pull out some carbs and maybe add a little cardio.
So when you weigh your Jasmin rice, and put a little back in the container compared to the last two weeks, and now you are eating less Jasmin rice, but you are still measuring it by putting it on that food scale. Yep, less grams of rice. When you record it in MyFitnessPal, it is still 20% high, as compared to some scientific lab measurement, but, again, this does not matter, because you are weighing it and measuring it and now you are eating less of it.
If the label is 20% high it does not matter. You are tracking and reducing (or increasing, on a bulk) relative to what you ate the week before. The label accuracy does not, therefore, matter.
At the end of the week you are two pounds less regardless of the label reading 20% high.
So you keep your rice weight the same for the coming week, until you drop below your desired weight loss for the week, at which point you make another adjustment.
Never once do we demand that the label be accurate. We just weigh and make changes based on the scale, and the tape measure around our waist, and the progress photographs.
Benf15harp
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Maybe we ought to demand accuracy and transparency on food labels. I’m just saying.
While you’re at it make please make a placard saying make my steroids legal again lol.
Benf15harp
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I might of overextended there by including myself. Lol
griffinator
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Grey Spartan
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Of course its imprecise. As long as you use the same scale, eat the same foods and record everything you put in your mouth you will have data. Then regardless how "precise" this is compared to a mass spectrometer or your individual metabolic adaptation you can make changes.
malfeasance
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16 weeks later, did you get lean?
bigboy420
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Looks so unhealthy...
This was the guy running 1 gram of tren.
Wanna see bloodwork
This was the guy running 1 gram of tren.
Wanna see bloodwork
Whopperflopper
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Damn Mal, solid nutritional advice this thread. I think OP may have run into some holiday meal hurdles.
Takes a strong will and dedication to Cut. So easy to slip, and think " I'll just bulk some more."
griffinator
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leaner not lean but I'm up a good amount of mass
update on the cycle I did bloods weirdly good for the amount of gear my but it still not great so for the past 4 weeks I've just been on 500mg test with 4ius of gh a day
update on weight I'm now 225lbs 5'11 in the morning
semi-relevant: my theory on my thyroid being sub-functional or non-functional was correct my doctor did mention she forgot to tell me since LAST YEAR my thyroid has been NON functioning
final note: sorry for the super long no posting I've been through some pretty interesting things in the past few weeks/months
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griffinator
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nope not in the slightest if anything i fucked up my intake of macros but not eating enough
griffinator
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only abnormal values not liver-killing values
Georgetrenson
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At your current body fat %, you could be taking WAY less drugs than this, you prob could get away with taking as little as 100-300mgs a week
Tren and T3 you shouldnt even touch until you’re single digits; your probably approaching 20% rn, contest lean is down to 4%, how are you going to be able to compete if you have no tools to throw in the remaining 16%?
I’d go back to cruise and rebuild your cutting stack, no more than test and eq at low doses (trt test base + whatever dose of eq to manage e2, if even needed, 300-500 weekly mgs max) until you’re at least 12-15%, ideally 10-13%.
malfeasance
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You definitely got leaner. Any intention of getting a little more serious about your nutrition and body composition?
AlexDavis43
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Nice progress.
Have you looked into anything for acne? Or does it not bother you (which is fine since it's not bad)
Mine wasn't bad but I knocked it out with a course of accutane anyway.
