Cut with Anavar or Tren?

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I don't understand "the concept of service or occupation"?

your replies are just an attempt to sound intelligent while avoiding my points.

Also probably a lot of "appeal to authority" in your psyche.


A man has to pay another guy to introduce him to the gym?
What "steps" need to be taken or learned?
going to the gym isn't a sport. This is why coaches aren't required.

outside of the context of competing, this whole default "coach" response breeds a helpless mentality and is mostly the result of people selling "coaching" normalizing it.

hell lately it seems like people use "Coach" like people use "doctor prescribed", as a defense to make their gear use more legitimate than others.

paying some dude to tell you exactly what to do , when you could easily do it on your own like everyone else, is werid af, lifting is a personal journey and your physique reflects your determination and problem solving skills. Instead of telling a dude "make me bigger I wanna look like that guy" and just doing what he tells you for the end result. This is just another example of the perversion of society, where everything is distilled down to a superficial transaction



(again, outside of the context of competing or high level etc.)

go tell that to Dirthand and all of type IIx’s clients then, they’re perfect example of some who don’t compete but are working with a coach. Lots of guys here do it too. And I bet they attribute their improvements to getting coached.

Yes, you can definitely improve without someone helping you out, but with someone guiding you expedite the process and leave out the guessing game. You pay so you don’t have to go through the long process of second guessing, trial and error; and having someone hold you accountable and make adjustments.

So are the members here who use Justin Harris et al are wrong then? They are already in shape and why are they still employing these so called frauds like you say?

Not because you were scammed or wronged by a so called coach, then they are all the same. By the way bodybuilding has natural coaches too.