Cutting

[Docd187123]

Do you think carb cycling makes a difference?

Metabolically speaking no. If it's what allows you the most consistency towards meeting your calorie and macro goals then yes.

 

[GnarShred]

Do you think carb cycling makes a difference?

How else would you recommend hitting 5% bf for a show? It's either that or 4-6 hrs a day training lol? I know you were asking doc but just saying from. What I know everyone drops carbs to hit the stage. I'll be doing 1.5 hrs a day lifting with some good intensity 5 days a week and cardio seperate times 1-3 hrs a day 3-5 days a week. Mostly hr a day few days but couple days I'll go do active hobbies and get in 2-3 hrs

 

[ErikR]

How else would you recommend hitting 5% bf for a show? It's either that or 4-6 hrs a day training lol? I know you were asking doc but just saying from. What I know everyone drops carbs to hit the stage. I'll be doing 1.5 hrs a day lifting with some good intensity 5 days a week and cardio seperate times 1-3 hrs a day 3-5 days a week. Mostly hr a day few days but couple days I'll go do active hobbies and get in 2-3 hrs

Carb depletion and carb cycling are 2 different things. Not all pros go very low carb.

 

[GnarShred]

Carb depletion and carb cycling are 2 different things. Not all pros go very low carb.

Oh ok. Well I'm doing a practice right now. Theoretically I'm 4 weeks out from a show. Do you think my plan is good or I'm better off with a different route. Thank you for putting the time into this thread!

 

[ErikR]

Oh ok. Well I'm doing a practice right now. Theoretically I'm 4 weeks out from a show. Do you think my plan is good or I'm better off with a different route. Thank you for putting the time into this thread!

I don't know if a month is enough time. Maybe @Docd187123 has a suggestion with that time frame.

 

[GnarShred]

Ok. I thought that with my physique/genetics (grew up skinny and lean) that with test, and winny and duet and cardio I'd shed from around 10% down to 5% in 4 weeks but I might have been over ambitious thinking that

 

[ErikR]

Ok. I thought that with my physique/genetics (grew up skinny and lean) that with test, and winny and duet and cardio I'd shed from around 10% down to 5% in 4 weeks but I might have been over ambitious thinking that

You can possibly get to 6% if you are10% in 6 weeks assuming u loose 2lbs of actual fat a week.

 

[Docd187123]

Ok. I thought that with my physique/genetics (grew up skinny and lean) that with test, and winny and duet and cardio I'd shed from around 10% down to 5% in 4 weeks but I might have been over ambitious thinking that

4wks probably isn't enough time unless you did a severe deficit. 6wks would be better IMO.

Edit* you have to remember that the leaner you get the harder it will be to cut fat while preserving muscle. 20% to 15% is a whole different game than 10% to 5%. At such low bf levels mobilization of fatty acids becomes and issue

 

[GnarShred]

So pros prepping for show are closer to 6% 4 weeks out? Prolly 8% already 8 weeks out? OK makes sense. I'll just do my best and see where I'm at. That's why it's a practice run. Only reason I'm thinking 4 weeks is cuz that's when Im off cycle and I don't want low calorie off cycle losing gains. I thought if I'm high protein on cycle it will preserve the muscle and burn the fat

 

[GnarShred]

You can possibly get to 6% if you are10% in 6 weeks assuming u loose 2lbs of actual fat a week.

Your math is off. If I was 200lbs and last 2 lbs of fat per week I would go from 10% to 5% in 5 weeks. And I'm only 158lbs so I need about 8lbs. So 2 lbs a week for 4 weeks. But I'm not saying I can do 2 lbs of just fat per week but that would be the math.

 

[Docd187123]

So pros prepping for show are closer to 6% 4 weeks out? Prolly 8% already 8 weeks out? OK makes sense. I'll just do my best and see where I'm at. That's why it's a practice run. Only reason I'm thinking 4 weeks is cuz that's when Im off cycle and I don't want low calorie off cycle losing gains. I thought if I'm high protein on cycle it will preserve the muscle and burn the fat

It's good that you do a dry run. Gives you experience.

Log everything and notate so you can refer back in the future. I wouldn't worry about the loss of muscle the final few weeks while off gear. If you're on long estered suff it'll take 2-3wks to really clear your system plus you don't lose muscle all that fast if you maintain good protein intake and high intensity training.

 

[GnarShred]

Today's food and macros :
1st meal:
5 egg whites 2 whole eggs

2nd meal:
2oz yam 6oz chicken breast

3rd meal:
8oz steak 2oz broccoli 2oz carrots tbsp a-1

4th meal:
Protein shake

5th meal:
6oz wild salmon

6th meal:
2 tbsp natural pnut butter

Macros:
1,611 calories
207g protein
44g carbs
30.5 g saturated fats
37g unsaturated fats

 

[ErikR]

Your math is off. If I was 200lbs and last 2 lbs of fat per week I would go from 10% to 5% in 5 weeks. And I'm only 158lbs so I need about 8lbs. So 2 lbs a week for 4 weeks. But I'm not saying I can do 2 lbs of just fat per week but that would be the math.

Sorry. I meant 5%. But I will still give it 6 weeks because when trying to get to single digits it get harder.

 

[GnarShred]

So I decided to go with 3 days low carb 1 day high and keep it cycling like that unless otherwise needed to change. Just today is day 4 I get to eat! Going 400 on high carb and 50 on low carb

 

[GnarShred]

Haven't been getting in as much gym as I'd like last few days been really busy but getting in some cardio and getting some pumps at gym as much as I can. Schedule will be tight all week and should return to normal next week. Working hard to keep diet on point though I feel like right now that's the most important part. I can tell I'm getting a little leaner can't wait for few more weeks!

 

[Docd187123]

You're pretty lean already. Nice job