Women-Only Cycle for figure competitor

[Behemoth 31]

Any women with primobolan exp? What did you prefer oral vs injectable? Dosage? Cycle length?

Recommendations for a cutting cycle?

Prior cycle was soley anavar

 

[lmwbxr]

Primo depot (injectable) was great. I got great strength and some size gains with it. At the time I was competing as a strength athlete. Doses vary by the person obviously. I pinned every 3 days. 20 - to 60mg at a time depending on what week I was in. Mine was 20mg/ml so the concentration was high which meant not too much volume to inject. At higher doses watch out for side effects. Also - consider that I stacked this with anavar, and later anavar and test p for another cycle.

 

[Daisy]

@GearGodess what about taken primo injectable 25mg 2x a week?

 

[Daisy]

body chemistry is incredibly important and no two people have the same, and I think what truly comes into play is what each individual is willing to risk, deal with or how their bodies respond. A lot of it comes from trial and error. Last spring thru the summer, I had experimented with sarms. I was prepping to compete. I really had very good results with S4, but I don’t believe they have as little risk as what is claimed. Not sure gains really stay around and it was more cosmetic affect. Ostarine I liked, but I ran my blood work after Xmas this year and my cholesterol had almost doubled.
i had taken Var for a month in nov, but I think it was the sarms. Everything else came back clean as a whistle. Right now, I am running Var and I am having my blood work done to see how my body is responding.
thank God acne is under control. Have you ever taken spirnolactone. I am thinking that might be my best course of action. Acne was definitely hormonal.
only reason I want to try Primo is not as strong or harsh as the others. My hair either thinned and part got bigger from S4 etc or dieting.

 

[Daisy]

I just had my annual Pap smear and my physician said” everything looks really, good and healthy, so ‍No complaints here. The voice I don’t care about to be honest. That is the least of my concern. The hair thinnning is super annoying. A lot of women who diet have hair problems though. Acne is clearing up praise the lord. When I started the Var, I started at 5, and I haven’t taken more than 10 and I’ll stop at 6 Weeks. Just had blood work done to see how body is responding while taking it.

 

[croses81]

I'm on my 5th week of Primo injection. My husband does the pinning for me and I think I only had one bad pin to where my butt was sore for a day or two. Other than that I can barely feel when it's in. I was told to take 100 mg once a week. I ran Anavar only cycle for two years. This is my first experience with primo. Last weekend I started noticing my voice getting a little huskier and my clit went from non existent to definitely noticeable with sensitivity. I'm going to go down to 50 mg because I don't think it's that bad for me to quit it all together yet. I want to do 10 weeks because I was told that you really don't see the full effects of primo until much later. I'm 5ft 8, 39 years old, 158lbs. I definitely have noticed an increase in lean muscle this week mainly in my butt and thighs. My upper body usually takes off first with Anavar, but its my lower body that's getting all of the gains so far. My strength is definitely noticeable this week. Otherwise I have no other symptoms. Oh wait, I do have a little acne that's starting to pop up. I've been using Burt's Bees tea tree oil stick and the Vagisil detox all over body wash with tea tree oil everyday. This has cleared up the blemishes quick.

 

[Daisy]

I'm on my 5th week of Primo injection. My husband does the pinning for me and I think I only had one bad pin to where my butt was sore for a day or two. Other than that I can barely feel when it's in. I was told to take 100 mg once a week. I ran Anavar only cycle for two years. This is my first experience with primo. Last weekend I started noticing my voice getting a little huskier and my clit went from non existent to definitely noticeable with sensitivity. I'm going to go down to 50 mg because I don't think it's that bad for me to quit it all together yet. I want to do 10 weeks because I was told that you really don't see the full effects of primo until much later. I'm 5ft 8, 39 years old, 158lbs. I definitely have noticed an increase in lean muscle this week mainly in my butt and thighs. My upper body usually takes off first with Anavar, but its my lower body that's getting all of the gains so far. My strength is definitely noticeable this week. Otherwise I have no other symptoms. Oh wait, I do have a little acne that's starting to pop up. I've been using Burt's Bees tea tree oil stick and the Vagisil detox all over body wash with tea tree oil everyday. This has cleared up the blemishes quick.

@croses81 do you like primo better than the anavar? How long are your cycles?
My first cycle I stopped before 6 weeks b/c of acne that is now under control?
Do you have a bloating with primo? I think with anavar I am retaining some water.

 

[croses81]

So far I like the Anavar because it works much faster than the primo, but that's to be expected because Im taking the injections instead of the tablets. I need more time on the Primo to give you a full account because Im only on week 5 and I was told the full effect doesn't kick in until week 6-8 or something like that. I was told that the results last longer than Anavar because I lost a lot of my lean muscle when I got off my cycle of Anavar. Also with Anavar I was irritable, and super argumentative, but I put on 6lbs of lean muscle in 6 weeks. I did 8 weeks on and 8 weeks off on Anavar. My last cycle on Anavar I experienced a lot of bloat, but that was because my diet wasn't the best. Husband said it could've been fake Var. The sides are definitely interesting with primo. Libido is super increased, my voice is husky and my clit is bigger. I don't have any bloating so far. I'm trying to do 10 weeks on primo. Acne so far was worse with Anavar.

 

[Daisy]

So far I like the Anavar because it works much faster than the primo, but that's to be expected because Im taking the injections instead of the tablets. I need more time on the Primo to give you a full account because Im only on week 5 and I was told the full effect doesn't kick in until week 6-8 or something like that. I was told that the results last longer than Anavar because I lost a lot of my lean muscle when I got off my cycle of Anavar. Also with Anavar I was irritable, and super argumentative, but I put on 6lbs of lean muscle in 6 weeks. I did 8 weeks on and 8 weeks off on Anavar. My last cycle on Anavar I experienced a lot of bloat, but that was because my diet wasn't the best. Husband said it could've been fake Var. The sides are definitely interesting with primo. Libido is super increased, my voice is husky and my clit is bigger. I don't have any bloating so far. I'm trying to do 10 weeks on primo. Acne so far was worse with Anavar.

@croses81 very interesting you should say that. My first round with Var I don’t think it was Var. I think it was Something else. My chest hurt so bad the whole cycle. This time I haven’t felt that at all. That very first time it made me lazy and unmotivated. This is why I stopped the cycle. This time it has been a lot smoother. I am taking 10mg. I afraid to take any more. I def hit a sweet spot I think. I am 6, but I think I am give it another two weeks. That’s super annoying with the Gains. My diet has been decent. Could be a little cleaner. Since I am going for maximum growth, I have been trying to eat no less than maintenance.
I heard that with primo most say they are able to keep their lean mass, but it sounds like it has higher chances for viralization. How much are you taking?
When I try it, I Think I would start at 25mg 2x a week. Better 2x vs one time a week.
Makes it smoother and levels more even.
I just had my blood work done. If my blood work comes back like crap, I’ll be taking a very long break.

 

[WOU812]

New to this board, but been around the boards for decades. SP is not a good option for androgenic sides (acne, hair, etc.) As an androgen receptor blocker it will attenuate the positives of anything that binds with the AR. To be effective it requires higher doses and for long term, one of the age mgmt docs I know used 100 - 200 mg/d in women on HRT pellets. At the higher doses you'll feel like crap (dizziness, lethagic) coming off long term SP is hell. Takes about a month to taper off and water retention rebound is brutal. One member added almost 8 lbs of lean after coming off SP (idxa measure) and clearly visible increase in lean and strength. Pretty obvious the SP was blocking both the good and bad. Finasteride will help with testosterone related acne/hair loss if you are prone to it, but it will affect libido and only works with testosterone. Other AAS that do not 5-alpha reduce, it will have no effect. MAST for example. Some women do well on androgens, love the way they feel and respond, but for some the sides are intolerable (acne/hair). Hair loss being the worst and is genetic. The future is topical androgen receptor blockers for skin and scalp.

 

[Daisy]

New to this board, but been around the boards for decades. SP is not a good option for androgenic sides (acne, hair, etc.) As an androgen receptor blocker it will attenuate the positives of anything that binds with the AR. To be effective it requires higher doses and for long term, one of the age mgmt docs I know used 100 - 200 mg/d in women on HRT pellets. At the higher doses you'll feel like crap (dizziness, lethagic) coming off long term SP is hell. Takes about a month to taper off and water retention rebound is brutal. One member added almost 8 lbs of lean after coming off SP (idxa measure) and clearly visible increase in lean and strength. Pretty obvious the SP was blocking both the good and bad. Finasteride will help with testosterone related acne/hair loss if you are prone to it, but it will affect libido and only works with testosterone. Other AAS that do not 5-alpha reduce, it will have no effect. MAST for example. Some women do well on androgens, love the way they feel and respond, but for some the sides are intolerable (acne/hair). Hair loss being the worst and is genetic. The future is topical androgen receptor blockers for skin and scalp.

@WOU812 thanks for your info super helpful and I was thinking around the same thing I just needed it to be confirmed and that’s why I started throwing it out there. It’s like tudca. One wouldn’t necessarily use it while on orals because it will actually slow down or take away from what the oral is suppose to do. Take it after usuage.
The water retention or rebound is hell after stopping diuretics.
Right now, acne is under control. Actually whatever acne I had was here from before this cycle. I am thinking the other anavar wasn’t Var or whatever I am doing is working.
In my opinion, acne and hair loss are the two worse symptoms. I think hair stopped thinning. That could have been from prep. Heavy dieting hits me. Genetically my mothers hair thinned out and she went grey sooner. Thanks for your input. I am not going to use it.
I take 2iu of growth 5x a week, so that should help things. Who knows what happened that first round.