deca versus equipoise

[Test_Subject]

You're comparing a nandrolone and a DHT type steroid.

Most people have explained the differences.

The gold star trinity is finding the right ratio for your body with a mixture of Testosterone, Nandrolone, and DHT type steroids.

EQ is actually a modified testosterone steroid, not a DHT.

The effects are DHT-like, though.

 

[rugerjitsu]

EQ is actually a modified testosterone steroid, not a DHT.

The effects are DHT-like, though.

I concur, but my point is still relevant, no?

 

[Regular Joe]

EQ is actually a modified testosterone steroid, not a DHT.

The effects are DHT-like, though.

I've read that dbal was created as an pill version of testosterone and then read that eq is an injectable version of dbal, seems like that should be back to testosterone but it started going over my head

 

[Regular Joe]

You're comparing a nandrolone and a DHT type steroid.

Most people have explained the differences.

The gold star trinity is finding the right ratio for your body with a mixture of Testosterone, Nandrolone, and DHT type steroids.

Sorry guess I missed most people explaining the differences, I haven't really seen these two drugs compared for joint health or pain

 

[MONSTRO1977]

Hey folks,

does anyone have some educated thoughts on Deca vs. Equipoise as a substance to compliment testosterone during a cycle? Goal is to build mass.
I'd like to keep T no higher than around 600mg/week (where I have it now). I've added 200mg per week of Deca because I'd like to get to about 800-1000mg per week cycle. Also thinking of adding Masteron at 200-300mg per week for weeks 8-16.
Although Deca (not NPP) nice on the joints and gives me an immediate strength increase and fullness, it always seems to decrease my mood, energy, and makes sex drive way worse. That's even taking about 1.5mg of caber per week.
I've never run Equipoise before.
So, who's run both along with Test and has opinions? Anyone like the idea of a 600mg test, + 300mg equipoise, + 300mg masteron cycle? Other opinions on a better mass-building cycle?
I'm 5'10" 195 and about 10-12% BF, been lifting for 17 years and have done many test, primo, and deca cycles. But never tried equipoise or masteron.

Deca hands down .
Made for humans
Great on joints
Stronger mass builder
No ansiety like bolde

 

[rugerjitsu]

Sorry guess I missed most people explaining the differences, I haven't really seen these two drugs compared for joint health or pain

Deca gets the nod with joint health and pain.

But, don't mistake "joint health" with being invincible.

 

[Methyl Mike]

Hey folks,

does anyone have some educated thoughts on Deca vs. Equipoise as a substance to compliment testosterone during a cycle? Goal is to build mass.
I'd like to keep T no higher than around 600mg/week (where I have it now). I've added 200mg per week of Deca because I'd like to get to about 800-1000mg per week cycle. Also thinking of adding Masteron at 200-300mg per week for weeks 8-16.
Although Deca (not NPP) nice on the joints and gives me an immediate strength increase and fullness, it always seems to decrease my mood, energy, and makes sex drive way worse. That's even taking about 1.5mg of caber per week.
I've never run Equipoise before.
So, who's run both along with Test and has opinions? Anyone like the idea of a 600mg test, + 300mg equipoise, + 300mg masteron cycle? Other opinions on a better mass-building cycle?
I'm 5'10" 195 and about 10-12% BF, been lifting for 17 years and have done many test, primo, and deca cycles. But never tried equipoise or masteron.

Bro 1.5mg caber per WEEK?

 

[Methyl Mike]

Agreed, too many ppl jump the gun on caber and in reality it can cause more problems than not using it at all

I am a caber casualty myself.

 

[Methyl Mike]

Between deca and eq only eq made me hostile and like...i felt like a horse. That wanted to bite people. Im.not playing either.

 

[CooSee]

Bro 1.5mg caber per WEEK?

I was doing that for a few weeks. Then took two weeks off of it, tested prolactin and it was well below top of range. 5 I think. So stopped it bc I realized the sides I was fighting were E2 at 120. Adding mast completely eliminated the sides. Is 1.5mg caber a lot? I’ve heard some people say it’s bad but I haven’t seen the studies or heard why. Do you have info on that?

 

[Methyl Mike]

I was doing that for a few weeks. Then took two weeks off of it, tested prolactin and it was well below top of range. 5 I think. So stopped it bc I realized the sides I was fighting were E2 at 120. Adding mast completely eliminated the sides. Is 1.5mg caber a lot? I’ve heard some people say it’s bad but I haven’t seen the studies or heard why. Do you have info on that?

Not really but i was takin .5 1x a week.and that was a ton

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Between deca and eq only eq made me hostile and like...i felt like a horse. That wanted to bite people. Im.not playing either.

Yea this happened to me too. I started to get big teeth and started craving a lot of raw oats....and then I started galloping everywhere and thats when I knew this had gotten out of hand

 

[Connor 25257]

I’m a little late to this “party” nor am I as experienced as some people who have already commented. Here are my thoughts. But keep in mind everyone reacts differently

for me, Deca seemed to give me some erectile problems, a lot of water weight and high blood pressure. EQ on the other hand, was a bit slower, but I had more endurance, a better look overall,especially in my lats and shoulders but not as much strength as deca. I never had any prolactin issues with EQ. For me, I choose EQ for those reasons. I’m willing to sacrifice some strength *because I don’t train for strength * and a little bit of muscle tissue. EQ also helps me eat more. BUT finding good EQ can be hit or miss because of the raws; finding good Deca is relatively simple as Deca raws are normally good. It’s all personal preference. Hopefully you’ll find the one you like most that works best for your body and your goals. For me, test and EQ was better than Test with Deca

 

[malfeasance]

Right now I'm 650T with 200mg deca (added the deca after 3 weeks on just the T).

Still running this? How did it treat you over the last six or seven weeks?

 

[EazyE]

I’m a little late to this “party” nor am I as experienced as some people who have already commented. Here are my thoughts. But keep in mind everyone reacts differently

for me, Deca seemed to give me some erectile problems, a lot of water weight and high blood pressure. EQ on the other hand, was a bit slower, but I had more endurance, a better look overall,especially in my lats and shoulders but not as much strength as deca. I never had any prolactin issues with EQ. For me, I choose EQ for those reasons. I’m willing to sacrifice some strength *because I don’t train for strength * and a little bit of muscle tissue. EQ also helps me eat more. BUT finding good EQ can be hit or miss because of the raws; finding good Deca is relatively simple as Deca raws are normally good. It’s all personal preference. Hopefully you’ll find the one you like most that works best for your body and your goals. For me, test and EQ was better than Test with Deca

Interesting observations. I find they both have their place but prefer deca overall.

 

[CooSee]

Interesting observations. I find they both have their place but prefer deca overall.

Good to hear that. Currently on a test + dec, started the dec four weeks after t, and I also get wayy lower sex drive when the dec is added. When I added 400mg mast, it helped a ton. But next cycle, probably this fall, I’m going to try test and add eq. If you prefer any ratio, would love to hear. i am thinking 400t and 400eq to start.

 

[CooSee]

Still running this? How did it treat you over the last six or seven weeks?

Yes. 650t, 300d, and 400m - added the mast 3 weeks back and it’s really nice for fixing e2 sides. I’ve only taken 1mg arim in the last 3 weeks and sex drive is around 90 percent (100 for me is maintenance around 200mg t). 5 weeks to go until backing down to trt dose. I am 180 in my avatar pic and about 197 right now and a little more lean. Only sides are HDL is at 21, and my resting heart rate is around 80. Blood pressure and all else is great. My previous biggest cycle was 500primo and 200deca.

 

[CooSee]

Yes. 650t, 300d, and 400m - added the mast 3 weeks back and it’s really nice for fixing e2 sides. I’ve only taken 1mg arim in the last 3 weeks and sex drive is around 90 percent (100 for me is maintenance around 200mg t). 5 weeks to go until backing down to trt dose. I am 180 in my avatar pic and about 197 right now and a little more lean. Only sides are HDL is at 21, and my resting heart rate is around 80. Blood pressure and all else is great. My previous biggest cycle was 500primo and 200deca.

I should also mention my heart actually feels better than it ever has, contrary to what we would think with that low HDL. Total is around 100. 4g of omega 3 a day. It will be interesting to see how much I can get the heart rate to come down after reducing dosages. I wonder if it’s high simply due to the weight, or if the chemicals themselves increase it

 

[CooSee]

Good to hear that. Currently on a test + dec, started the dec four weeks after t, and I also get wayy lower sex drive when the dec is added. When I added 400mg mast, it helped a ton. But next cycle, probably this fall, I’m going to try test and add eq. If you prefer any ratio, would love to hear. i am thinking 400t and 400eq to start.

Meant to reply this to @Connor 25257

 

[Norma Jeane Mortenson]

Low Deca, high mast, high test for me. No issues ever. Deca is potent, I think a lot of people just run way too much.