Dacj
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What is the room temperature approximately? for knowing the type of weather you use in the test
PS: Interesting test
PS: Interesting test
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Anabolic Steroids
Degradation
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AlexDavis43
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Jano is a considerable 'de-shading' of this business, imo.
laqpoqir
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All Nats McGee
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I got a 6 year old pharmacom test e bottle that tested at 330mg/ml thats in grape seed oil. I wonder what the concentration is now.
Parabolic
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Fuck knows what the degradation of my 4 year old test e i've been injecting is at....
Probably fucked.
Yolo. For any curious it's alpha pharma test e, they have since been wacked by law enforcement so they are gone. I kept it in a cool dark place all those years and had it over so decided to use it.
Been on it 10 weeks so far and all seems fine, did smell test to see if oil had gone rancid, no problems. No PIP or anything.
Probably fucked.
Yolo. For any curious it's alpha pharma test e, they have since been wacked by law enforcement so they are gone. I kept it in a cool dark place all those years and had it over so decided to use it.
Been on it 10 weeks so far and all seems fine, did smell test to see if oil had gone rancid, no problems. No PIP or anything.
deddmoneydave
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Would orals like oxandrolone experience measurable degredation over time as well?
janoshik
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Oxandrolone degradation is not very well seen on HPLC, the experiments had shown, which is unfortunate.
Pantera
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Could you please translate this for a simpleton like me? Does it mean that you couldn't tell if there was actual degradation because the concentration you measured was within the margin of error? If yes, how wide is that margin of error?
janoshik
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yes, about 2%
LondonBloke7
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Could that 2% just be variance from inital lab test to this test though Jano?
janoshik
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yes!
janoshik
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The available scientific literature and my own wild guess based on the UV absorbances of anabolic steroids agrees with you in statement that light seems to be the main factor.
So it's better to use amber glass vials?
Sure,I mean to store my own brew after filtering to avoid the light caused damage
Parabolic
Member
All medicines give the same advice when it comes to storage. Somewhere cool, dark and moisture free.
Follow those rules and your gear is probably good to go for a long time. There was a study done on expiry dates of medications and most were found to still be just as potent as they were the day of manufacture pretty much, some maybe a little potency lost.
But all ok to still use basically.
The test e i've been using said it expired 2018 and manufacatured in 2014. So I'm just gonna assume maybe 5% loss? something like that.
Not worried about it tbh as I kept it in the proper conditions.
Follow those rules and your gear is probably good to go for a long time. There was a study done on expiry dates of medications and most were found to still be just as potent as they were the day of manufacture pretty much, some maybe a little potency lost.
But all ok to still use basically.
The test e i've been using said it expired 2018 and manufacatured in 2014. So I'm just gonna assume maybe 5% loss? something like that.
Not worried about it tbh as I kept it in the proper conditions.
janoshik
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it's a bit more complicated with oils 
ba and bb degrade by themselves, oils go rancid etc
most medications that are known to be stable well past their expiry are pills etc
ba and bb degrade by themselves, oils go rancid etcmost medications that are known to be stable well past their expiry are pills etc
Parabolic
Member
True oils are definitely gonna be a bit different. Lets just say injecting 10 year old test isn't a great idea.it's a bit more complicated with oils
most medications that are known to be stable well past their expiry are pills etc
Then shit like primo seems to degrade more easily, depends heavily on the compound too I guess.
I wish a study would be done with oils. Be a great reference. Even if it was just with test.
@janoshik any idea on degradation if higher than room temp?
Specifically wondering about Test, stored at say 25-30 Celsius, for say 3 months without light. Any idea/hypothesis on the degradation there?
(I think I saw a study a while ago on little degradation after months up to 50 Celsius but I can't find it)
Specifically wondering about Test, stored at say 25-30 Celsius, for say 3 months without light. Any idea/hypothesis on the degradation there?
(I think I saw a study a while ago on little degradation after months up to 50 Celsius but I can't find it)
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