DHT benefits

[tb82]

It's expected that some people will react poorly to a drug that significantly alters hormone levels. I don't think that discredits finasteride as a tool for the majority that don't have any noticeable side effects. The fact that most people don't notice anything from such a big decrease in DHT makes a case for it not being all that important imo.

I've tried coming off finasteride for several months to see what would happen. Just got acne, no magical brain power from missing neurosteroids or any other benefit.

This!

I have tried A LOT of prescription meds in my time. I have had virtually zero side effects from any of them...except Finasteride and Dutasteride. Even Minoxidil made me feel like a goddam zombie every time I started it (tried at least 4 times).

I'd love to keep my hair but I also know whatever the meds do to me, I simply can't afford to feel so mentally dull in my career. I get brain fog like crazy...and I've been able to ignore the ever present possibility of dick side effects. I just can't tolerate the meds (though I MAY give it one last go at the super low doses Ghoul has mentioned several times...since I have a shit ton of meds sitting around ).

I have no doubt that many men have benefited from these drugs. However, it can't really be discounted that a subset of men have crushing side effects with these meds and losing the hair is simply a better option.

I'm all for people using whatever meds help them. I just have a hard time pushing through the mental fog, especially if I have no idea how long that may last. Everyone's different...I'm not a fear mongerer but I definitely understand those that say they can't tolerate the side effects. I refuse to believe that is all psychosomatic.

 

[BOSSBIG]

This!

I have tried A LOT of prescription meds in my time. I have had virtually zero side effects from any of them...except Finasteride and Dutasteride. Even Minoxidil made me feel like a goddam zombie every time I started it (tried at least 4 times).

I'd love to keep my hair but I also know whatever the meds do to me, I simply can't afford to feel so mentally dull in my career. I get brain fog like crazy...and I've been able to ignore the ever present possibility of dick side effects. I just can't tolerate the meds (though I MAY give it one last go at the super low doses Ghoul has mentioned several times...since I have a shit ton of meds sitting around ).

I have no doubt that many men have benefited from these drugs. However, it can't really be discounted that a subset of men have crushing side effects with these meds and losing the hair is simply a better option.

I'm all for people using whatever meds help them. I just have a hard time pushing through the mental fog, especially if I have no idea how long that may last. Everyone's different...I'm not a fear mongerer but I definitely understand those that say they can't tolerate the side effects. I refuse to believe that is all psychosomatic.

Sucks that it did that. Not worth dealing with brain fog. Topical finasteride and RU-58841 are good alternatives.

 

[Peterson]

I've seen lately quite a few similar claims like this though.

Yeah, just look in this thread.

Baldies are so desperate and hopeless they go full apesh*t whenever you show the dangers of finasteride.

Sad they're even harassing people who dare to speak out.

 

[Liter O' Test]

This!

I have tried A LOT of prescription meds in my time. I have had virtually zero side effects from any of them...except Finasteride and Dutasteride. Even Minoxidil made me feel like a goddam zombie every time I started it (tried at least 4 times).

I'd love to keep my hair but I also know whatever the meds do to me, I simply can't afford to feel so mentally dull in my career. I get brain fog like crazy...and I've been able to ignore the ever present possibility of dick side effects. I just can't tolerate the meds (though I MAY give it one last go at the super low doses Ghoul has mentioned several times...since I have a shit ton of meds sitting around ).

I have no doubt that many men have benefited from these drugs. However, it can't really be discounted that a subset of men have crushing side effects with these meds and losing the hair is simply a better option.

I'm all for people using whatever meds help them. I just have a hard time pushing through the mental fog, especially if I have no idea how long that may last. Everyone's different...I'm not a fear mongerer but I definitely understand those that say they can't tolerate the side effects. I refuse to believe that is all psychosomatic.

are you injecting testosterone?

 

[tb82]

are you injecting testosterone?

Yes

 

[Liter O' Test]

Yes

do you monitor your estrogen levels?
were you on a supraphysiological dose of testosterone while taking finasteride?

 

[tb82]

do you monitor your estrogen levels?
were you on a supraphysiological dose of testosterone while taking finasteride?

Excellent questions.

I am mainly on what would be considered TRT+ levels of Test. Not a bodybuilder by any means. Just back to working to get my fat ass back in shape.

Most Test compounds I have run in a week is 400 mg but usually around 160-200 (I mostly vary that depending on how much I'm actually working out).

I check blood work about every 3 months. Highest Test level I have hit is around 1150 (that was way back when my doctor decided Biote pellets were the way to go...boy did I realize quickly that was shit and found this board).

E2 levels - were in the 50s the last time I tried Finasteride and felt shitty. E2 currently around low teens (19 last time I measured) but haven't tried Finasteride again while that low. (Not surprisingly, I feel shittier with the lower E2...lol).

I added in Primobolan which lowered my E2. I realize I use laughable amounts of Test (we can call them Reddit-levels of Test...lol) compared to most on here.

My goals are mostly to get some resemblance of physical shape back, deal with crippling levels of chronic pain, and get some energy back. I've made solid progress but still a decently long way to go.

Work, life, and kids....(And too easy to make excuses)

Sorry, you didn't ask all that...ha!

I didn't think about E2 levels and how it may correlate with tolerating Finasteride.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Excellent questions.

I am mainly on what would be considered TRT+ levels of Test. Not a bodybuilder by any means. Just back to working to get my fat ass back in shape.

Most Test compounds I have run in a week is 400 mg but usually around 160-200 (I mostly vary that depending on how much I'm actually working out).

I check blood work about every 3 months. Highest Test level I have hit is around 1150 (that was way back when my doctor decided Biote pellets were the way to go...boy did I realize quickly that was shit and found this board).

E2 levels - were in the 50s the last time I tried Finasteride and felt shitty. E2 currently around low teens (19 last time I measured) but haven't tried Finasteride again while that low. (Not surprisingly, I feel shittier with the lower E2...lol).

I added in Primobolan which lowered my E2. I realize I use laughable amounts of Test (we can call them Reddit-levels of Test...lol) compared to most on here.

My goals are mostly to get some resemblance of physical shape back, deal with crippling levels of chronic pain, and get some energy back. I've made solid progress but still a decently long way to go.

Work, life, and kids....(And too easy to make excuses)

Sorry, you didn't ask all that...ha!

I didn't think about E2 levels and how it may correlate with tolerating Finasteride.

yeah maybe your side effects you attributed to finasteride were due to your estrogen levels due to just estrogen itself or because by reducing dht, you had less androgens compared to your estrogen. or just less androgens in general from being on TRT, even if its a "sports" trt.

I think if guys had higher test to make up for the loss of dht, they wouldnt get side effects, or atleast not crush dht if not desired.