Diet Soda's, fake sugars, etc. - healthy or not?

MonarchX

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I drink a lot of Diet Ginger Ale because it helps with stomach issues. Some say that such drinks actually DE-hydrate. Is that true? I realize drinking water is better, but does Diet Ginger Ale hydrate? It only has 25mg of Sodium.

Another question is about all them fake sugars - Truvia, Stevia, Splenda, etc. Are the healthy for consumption and for losing fat? My sister thinks they have carcinogens, but I don't believe it...
 
Sodas are primarily carbonated water, so I don't see how drinking them could possibly dehydrate your body. Caffeine is a diuretic, but from what I've gathered, it is fairly mild. Water is obviously a better choice if you're trying to stay hydrated, but I don't think having a ginger ale here and there is going to have much bearing on your overall hydration.

As for diet sweeteners, I have no clue. Diet sodas taste like absolute shit to me.
 
Your guess is good as ours man. There's studies that say they're bad or no better than real sugar and there's studies that say they aren't. I think the truth is still a mystery
 
I drink a lot of Diet Ginger Ale because it helps with stomach issues. Some say that such drinks actually DE-hydrate. Is that true? I realize drinking water is better, but does Diet Ginger Ale hydrate? It only has 25mg of Sodium.

Another question is about all them fake sugars - Truvia, Stevia, Splenda, etc. Are the healthy for consumption and for losing fat? My sister thinks they have carcinogens, but I don't believe it...

Stevia is natural, it's from a flower.

Don't believe all the BS from the rabid vegans and similar, diet soda is OK. It hydrates, as does coffee.

Don't worry about sodium. That's another new age obsession.

I'd suggest trying flavored seltzer water - Kroger has a great set of tasty store brand seltzers. Excellent flavors and zero calories etc.
 
To examine this myth regarding the hydrating effect of soda, you have to begin with analyzing what makes up soda. Essentially, soda is almost entirely simply carbonated water. So this begs the question: Does carbonated water hydrate equally or nearly equally to water? Could this be the source of some dehydration?

The simply act of adding carbonation to water is simply aesthetic, and does not effect how the water is processed in your body. Your body easy removes the carbonation, and is left with just water.

So what else is in soda? The next big ingredient in sodas is sugar. Unlike carbonation, high sugar content does slow hydration. Your body needs more time to process these sugars, and therefore devotes some water away from other places in your body to break down the sugar. That being said, the effect is rather minimal. Take a look at Gatorade for instance. It prides itself as being one of the best ways to hydrate, as well as add electrolytes back into your body. However, Gatorade also has very high sugar content. Depending on the brand, Gatorade can be just as sugary as soda. But for the sake of argument, let’s consider diet soda. There is no sugar in diet sodas, only chemical sweeteners which have been shown to have no effect on hydration (showed through studies of low-calorie and zero-calorie flavored water).

Could dehydration stem from the sodium concentration in soda? The answer here is a simple no. Sodium helps your body retain water, and stay hydrated. However, sodas are very weak sources of sodium, so any effect either way is practically non-existent.

But there’s still a big elephant in the room when it comes to soda, and that’s the caffeine content. For years, experts were saying that caffeine acted as a diuretic in the body, causing you to urinate more fluid and therefore become less hydrated. However, real world studies have shown that caffeine has only a mild diuretic effect, similar to that of just plain water.

But logically, it is obvious that soda wouldn’t dehydrate you. For a fluid to dehydrate you, it would have to remove more from you then you add by actually drinking the fluid. So let’s look at diet coke for example. It has 45 mg of caffeine in it per 12 ounces. For diet coke to have a dehydrating effect, 45 mg of caffeine would have to remove more than 12 ounces of water from your body. This is obviously incorrect. To show this, let’s look at a 12 ounce Starbucks coffee, which contains 260 mg of caffeine, or about 6 times as much as a same size diet coke. If the amount of caffeine in a diet coke was capable of dehydrating you, imagine what the coffee would do to you. If this were true, then you would lose 60 ounces of water per cup of coffee. That means for every two coffees you drink, the caffeine would remove a gallon of water from your body. Everyone knows that person who drinks over 10 cups of coffee a day, yet you don’t see them peeing out over 5 gallons of water. Obviously the argument that soda actually dehydrates you is ridiculous.

I believe what people mean to say is that soda simply doesn’t hydrate you as much as pure water. This is probably true. The caffeine content combined with the sugar could somewhat lower the hydrating effect. That being said, it is ignorant to claim that soda dehydrates you. In reality, the hydrating effect of diet soda compared with that of water is so minimally different that there is no point in actually distinguishing the two. In fact, because people are more likely to drink larger amounts of soda that water due to its good taste, soda often allows people to hydrate better than pure water.
 
I don't know if soda is as bad as everyone says. As for the fake sugars, that's easier for me to believe they can cause problems. I hate the fact they are in all my favorite protein powders but other than that I won't touch them! Everyone that I know that uses them consistently, gets addicted to them (only likes diet tasting drinks), and seems to put on weight! Might lose some to start but they gain it back and some.

Just my experience. That being said there could be other factors involved as well.
 
I don't know if soda is as bad as everyone says. As for the fake sugars, that's easier for me to believe they can cause problems. I hate the fact they are in all my favorite protein powders but other than that I won't touch them! Everyone that I know that uses them consistently, gets addicted to them (only likes diet tasting drinks), and seems to put on weight! Might lose some to start but they gain it back and some.

Just my experience. That being said there could be other factors involved as well.

Stevia or Xylitol are good, natural, sweeteners with no calories or glycemic spikes to worry about.

http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm
 
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So is opium... o_O

Now you're either being silly, or trying to be cute.

"Stevia is a sweetener and sugar substitute extracted from the leaves of the plant species Stevia rebaudiana.

The active compounds of stevia are steviol glycosides (mainly stevioside and rebaudioside), which have up to 150 times the sweetness of sugar, are heat-stable, pH-stable, and not fermentable. These steviosides have a negligible effect on blood glucose, which makes stevia attractive to people on carbohydrate-controlled diets. Stevia's taste has a slower onset and longer duration than that of sugar, and some of its extracts may have a bitter or licorice-like aftertaste at high concentrations.

The legal status of stevia extracts as food additives and supplements varies from country to country. In the United States, stevia was banned in 1991 after early studies found that it might be carcinogenic; after additional studies, the FDA approved some specific glycoside extracts for use as food additives in 2008. The European Union approved stevia additives in 2011, and in Japan, stevia has been widely used as a sweetener for decades."

Another example here of the FDA's utter uselessness. Wonder how many lives would have been better if they had consumed Stevia rather than loads of high fructose corn syrup?

Don't try to bake with either stevia or xylitol - the bread won't rise.
 
Now you're either being silly, or trying to be cute.

"Stevia is a sweetener and sugar substitute extracted from the leaves of the plant species Stevia rebaudiana.

The active compounds of stevia are steviol glycosides (mainly stevioside and rebaudioside), which have up to 150 times the sweetness of sugar, are heat-stable, pH-stable, and not fermentable. These steviosides have a negligible effect on blood glucose, which makes stevia attractive to people on carbohydrate-controlled diets. Stevia's taste has a slower onset and longer duration than that of sugar, and some of its extracts may have a bitter or licorice-like aftertaste at high concentrations.

The legal status of stevia extracts as food additives and supplements varies from country to country. In the United States, stevia was banned in 1991 after early studies found that it might be carcinogenic; after additional studies, the FDA approved some specific glycoside extracts for use as food additives in 2008. The European Union approved stevia additives in 2011, and in Japan, stevia has been widely used as a sweetener for decades."

Another example here of the FDA's utter uselessness. Wonder how many lives would have been better if they had consumed Stevia rather than loads of high fructose corn syrup?

Don't try to bake with either stevia or xylitol - the bread won't rise.

My point is that something being natural doesn't mean jack shit as far as safety goes... go eat all the mushrooms you see in the forest, it's okay, they're natural.
 
My point is that something being natural doesn't mean jack shit as far as safety goes... go eat all the mushrooms you see in the forest, it's okay, they're natural.

Christ on a bike.....

Ever heard of the word context?

OP listed the various sugar substitutes en masse - and Stevia shouldn't be lumped together with the man-made chemical additives.

Stevia has a long track record (thousands of years) as a natural and safe sweetener.

How to Bake With Stevia Instead of Sugar

Try to learn something instead of being an ass.
 
Raw organic coconut sugar is what I use and is probably the healthiest choice.
Coconut Sugar: Healthier Sweetener or Another Pretty Name for Sugar?

Why is that the "healthiest"?

As I see it, Xylitol is better, Stevia is best. Unless you bake, in which case coconut sugar is a good choice.

Glycemic index list below - note how horrible HFCS is, worse than regular sugar.

Stevia 0
Xylitol 7
Agave 15-30
Brown Rice Syrup 25
Coconut Sugar/Nectar 30
Raw Honey 35-58
Sucanat 43
Organic Sugar 47
Maple Syrup 54
Blackstrap Molasses 54
Evaporated Cane Juice 55
Raw Sugar (Turbinado) 65
Corn Syrup 75
White Sugar 80
High Fructose Corn Syrup 87
Glucose 100

Coconut Sugar: Sustainable and Healthy Sweetener

Coconut Sugar, Xylitol, Stevia… All natural powdered sweeteners
 
No but that sounds good.
If your making sun tea or whatever I would probably add it when it's warm so it dissolves because the crystals are kinda big. I am not really into baking because my oven kinda sucks! So I really only use it for coffee a few times a week.
 
Why is that the "healthiest"?

As I see it, Xylitol is better, Stevia is best. Unless you bake, in which case coconut sugar is a good choice.

Glycemic index list below - note how horrible HFCS is, worse than regular sugar.

Stevia 0
Xylitol 7
Agave 15-30
Brown Rice Syrup 25
Coconut Sugar/Nectar 30
Raw Honey 35-58
Sucanat 43
Organic Sugar 47
Maple Syrup 54
Blackstrap Molasses 54
Evaporated Cane Juice 55
Raw Sugar (Turbinado) 65
Corn Syrup 75
White Sugar 80
High Fructose Corn Syrup 87
Glucose 100

Coconut Sugar: Sustainable and Healthy Sweetener

Coconut Sugar, Xylitol, Stevia… All natural powdered sweeteners
Read the article I posted.
That's why..
 
Stevia is natural, it's from a flower.

Don't believe all the BS from the rabid vegans and similar, diet soda is OK. It hydrates, as does coffee.

Don't worry about sodium. That's another new age obsession.

I'd suggest trying flavored seltzer water - Kroger has a great set of tasty store brand seltzers. Excellent flavors and zero calories etc.
I don't drink as much diet soda (big fan of Coke Zero though) as I used to so been drinking flavored seltzer water myself. The jury is still out on artificial sweeteners though.
 

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