dietary fat while blasting?

[ripper908]

After watching several different videos of coaches there seems to be 2 trains of thought.

Guys like Broderick Chavez, Milos and Mike Isratael all say added dietary fat isn`t needed on cycle cause the exogenous hormones are doing all the work

Than guys like Palumbo, Jon Meadows all say dietary fat is essential for muscle growth

Those who experimented with both approaches what gave you the best results?

 

[Benf15harp]

20% MAX

 

[zombiesauce]

Look and progress better with more carbs and less fats. Feel better with more fats and less carbs.

From my personal experience.

 

[BigNoOne]

Fat doesn’t form muscle. Fat is an energy source or fat becomes fat.

 

[amazonas]

You will feel much better and have more energy with higher fat in my opinion. A few years ago i was scared of fats, i ate a shitton of carbs and grew fine, but once i switched to high fats on top, i started growing like crazy. And this was the ONLY change i made to my diet.

Started using olive oil on everything, and added in nut butter to my proteinshakes. Switched out the low fat mince meat with higher fat 12-15%, switched out low fat/fat free products with normal fat products. Huge difference for me, and i was not even getting fat. Kept a great shape.

 

[brutalbuilt]

idk all the videos ive seen of top ifbb pro mass monsters all have high fats

maybe it does something science hasnt studied yet for muscle building with gear

 

[Benf15harp]

idk all the videos ive seen of top ifbb pro mass monsters all have high fats

maybe it does something science hasnt studied yet for muscle building with gear

Probably as simple as more calories less volume

 

[BigNoOne]

i ate a shitton of carbs and grew fine, but once i switched to high fats on top, i started growing like crazy. And this was the ONLY change i made to my diet.

So high protein high carb high fat?

 

[amazonas]

So high protein high carb high fat?

Previously i was on high carb, high protein, low fat, but i found it much better lowering my carbs to medium and upping my fats to high

 

[ripper908]

idk all the videos ive seen of top ifbb pro mass monsters all have high fats

maybe it does something science hasnt studied yet for muscle building with gear

yeah modern day pros seem to use fats

I was listening to jay cutler on the cutler cast and he was saying aceto had him doing 2000 grams of carbs a day from rice, protein from egg whites and white fish only, and no added fat at all. sounded insane lol

 

[Astartes]

After watching several different videos of coaches there seems to be 2 trains of thought.

Guys like Broderick Chavez, Milos and Mike Isratael all say added dietary fat isn`t needed on cycle cause the exogenous hormones are doing all the work

Than guys like Palumbo, Jon Meadows all say dietary fat is essential for muscle growth

Those who experimented with both approaches what gave you the best results?

Do opposite of John Meadows and Palumbo. 90% of the time they are full of shit. Israetel is fairly knowledgeable.