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[qadsan]

The cream I make is with QSC’s test base (no ester), so it peaks within a few hours from what I’ve read. I’ve been making it for a few family members and it’s worked well for them, so I decided to try it myself about a month ago and I’m impressed with it. You could use it as a boost here and there or use it for trt. I’ll post my recipe and info in a couple days when I have more time along with some videos by Dr keith Nichols from tier 1 one health that are relevant in case you ever want to give this a try.

Here’s the formula I use from PhloJel for making Testosterone Cream 20% strength. It’s really super simple, and I’ve been using QSC’s test base for this. Please note that this cream is much stronger and way more bioavailable than various transdermals such as Androgel, and some of the other creams and gels available from various pharmacies.

Equipment Needed:
Slab & Spatula, (optional two 100mlL syringes with syringe adapter)

Procedure to make 50g
This will fill up two Topi-Click 35 dispensers that dispense 0.25mL per click using PhloJel Ultra as the base penetrant which can be found at this link https://phlojelultra.us

Triturate and levigate 10g testosterone base with 13mL (11g) Olive Oil until non-gritty. Make sure to do this step well so that it’s truly non gritty. Watch the videos linked below for these principles being demonstrated.

Incorporate 40g PhloJel Ultra in divided portions until complete. The olive oil is considered a pharmaceutical necessity and is not included in the total weight. You can optionally incorporate up to, but no more than 1mL of DSMO, but I prefer to use it separately (if it at all) with a small spray mist bottle if I want faster absorption. I generally don’t use any DMSO, but it is an option.

The final product should be soft, yet firm and non-gritty.

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I’d recommend a starting dose of 1mL per day either in divided doses or a single dose in the morning for TRT based on using the PhloJel Ultra as the base penetrant, and adjust your dose up or down from there. Scrotal application will give you higher levels. You’ll need to shave often to get the best results and it’s really super simple and quick to do with a five bladed Gillette swivel head razor as Doctor Keith Nichols talks about in one of his videos below, along with transference risks, etc. I believe T levels peak in just a few hours with this cream and it only takes something like three days to achieve a steady state, so it’s much quicker than with injections such a test cypionate. You could also use this cream as a booster along with injections.

Here’s a few videos demonstrating the principles of geometric delusion and levigation for compounding will come in handy if you decide to make this.


View: https://youtu.be/we8gV8DQWMc?si=Hp90WkycAr6DxZ2J



View: https://youtu.be/hualGfSQPqg?si=4biJr6qjucJhwb0P



View: https://youtu.be/2oihtO3xsSE?si=e-b5iM5J9oohEB3I



I used the PhloJel Ultra base to make my cream because its been proven to work great, but I’ve read where some people have used a much less expensive base such as Vanicream, which can be found on Amazon at the link below.
https://a.co/d/3z72tgU

Other popular bases for hormone creams that are known to work are HRT base, Pentrovan, Atrevis Hydrogel and a few others, but PhloJel Ultra was easy for me to obtain and its been proven to work, and that’s why I went with it.

Here’s some videos from Dr Keith Nichols of Tier One Health in regards to the testosterone cream he’s been prescribing for his patients for a number of years with very good success. I believe his cream is compounded with HRT base, but I wasn’t able to obtain it and that’s why I didn’t use it.

- YouTube

- YouTube

- YouTube

- YouTube


If you’re interested in making your own base with good bioavailability, then I’d recommend reading about the use of Ethosomes in transdermal delivery systems to start with.

 

[pipo]

I have made some time and read this topic from beginning. Good topic, great initiative
Keep it going

 

[Dirthand]

Here’s the formula I use from PhloJel for making Testosterone Cream 20% strength. It’s really super simple, and I’ve been using QSC’s test base for this. Please note that this cream is much stronger and way more bioavailable than various transdermals such as Androgel, and some of the other creams and gels available from various pharmacies.

Equipment Needed:
Slab & Spatula, (optional two 100mlL syringes with syringe adapter)

Procedure to make 50g
This will fill up two Topi-Click 35 dispensers that dispense 0.25mL per click using PhloJel Ultra as the base penetrant which can be found at this link https://phlojelultra.us

Triturate and levigate 10g testosterone base with 13mL (11g) Olive Oil until non-gritty. Make sure to do this step well so that it’s truly non gritty. Watch the videos linked below for these principles being demonstrated.

Incorporate 40g PhloJel Ultra in divided portions until complete. The olive oil is considered a pharmaceutical necessity and is not included in the total weight. You can optionally incorporate up to, but no more than 1mL of DSMO, but I prefer to use it separately (if it at all) with a small spray mist bottle if I want faster absorption. I generally don’t use any DMSO, but it is an option.

The final product should be soft, yet firm and non-gritty.

———————————————

I’d recommend a starting dose of 1mL per day either in divided doses or a single dose in the morning for TRT based on using the PhloJel Ultra as the base penetrant, and adjust your dose up or down from there. Scrotal application will give you higher levels. You’ll need to shave often to get the best results and it’s really super simple and quick to do with a five bladed Gillette swivel head razor as Doctor Keith Nichols talks about in one of his videos below, along with transference risks, etc. I believe T levels peak in just a few hours with this cream and it only takes something like three days to achieve a steady state, so it’s much quicker than with injections such a test cypionate. You could also use this cream as a booster along with injections.

Here’s a few videos demonstrating the principles of geometric delusion and levigation for compounding will come in handy if you decide to make this.


View: https://youtu.be/we8gV8DQWMc?si=Hp90WkycAr6DxZ2J



View: https://youtu.be/hualGfSQPqg?si=4biJr6qjucJhwb0P



View: https://youtu.be/2oihtO3xsSE?si=e-b5iM5J9oohEB3I



I used the PhloJel Ultra base to make my cream because its been proven to work great, but I’ve read where some people have used a much less expensive base such as Vanicream, which can be found on Amazon at the link below.
https://a.co/d/3z72tgU (Amazon.com)

Other popular bases for hormone creams that are known to work are HRT base, Pentrovan, Atrevis Hydrogel and a few others, but PhloJel Ultra was easy for me to obtain and its been proven to work, and that’s why I went with it.

Here’s some videos from Dr Keith Nichols of Tier One Health in regards to the testosterone cream he’s been prescribing for his patients for a number of years with very good success. I believe his cream is compounded with HRT base, but I wasn’t able to obtain it and that’s why I didn’t use it.

- YouTube

- YouTube

- YouTube

- YouTube


If you’re interested in making your own base with good bioavailability, then I’d recommend reading about the use of Ethosomes in transdermal delivery systems to start with.

Imma check into it.. it's actually seems a little more complex than I initially thought

 

[Dirthand]

Finally getting samples sent out today... concentration, harmful substances, and sterility. I really dont care about heavy metals and endotoxins. . However I send enough sample in one to order the test while it's on the way... contemplating . Spaceman spliff said it in another thread.. dont really wanna know.. .

 

[qadsan]

Imma check into it.. it's actually seems a little more complex than I initially

It’s probably the way I wrote it out that makes it seem complex, but it really is simple and quick to do.

Thoroughly mix 10g test base with 13mL (11g) Olive Oil until it’s non-gritty. Then add 40g PhloJel Ultra or whatever base penetrant you’re using and mix thoroughly. You can dispense from a syringe, or a lotion container or get fancy with metered doses via Topi-Click.

 

[Dirthand]

It’s probably the way I wrote it out that makes it seem complex, but it really is simple and quick to do.

Thoroughly mix 10g test base with 13mL (11g) Olive Oil until it’s non-gritty. Then add 40g or whatever base penetrant you’re using and mix thoroughly. You can dispense from a syringe, or a lotion container or get fancy with metered doses via Topi-Click.

Actually pretty simple.. how long does it take to absorb and dry

 

[qadsan]

Actually pretty simple.. how long does it take to absorb and dry

With the PhloJel, it feels dry to me in 10 seconds, but it can still be transferred to somebody who comes in contact with it for a few hours afterwards.

I believe is safe to take a shower ~4+ hours after application. I simply apply it after I’m dried off from my morning shower, then go about my day.

During my weekly yard work day, I apply it first thing in the morning and get to work shortly afterwards. Yardwork takes me a minimum of 5+ hours weed whacking + blowing + mowing on easy weeks (takes 8+ hours during fall) and I have zero issues even though I’m sweating like crazy at times. I have no worries about sweating this out because it’s already doing it magic shortly after it’s applied.

On workout days, I apply it in the morning when I inject my HGH, wait 2 hours, then workout for a couple hours, then do 1+ hours of LISS cardio with my weight vest through the forest. I’m sweating like a pig through part of this and have zero issues with the cream feeling like it lost its magic.

Zero performance issues with my wife no matter the time of day (even before morning application), so it’s definitely working for me.

The only thing I’m worried about is shedding my hair, but so far so good and maybe that’s because I’m on 0.25mg/day finasteride? I’ve read where other people do have hair loss issues with creams, so that’s something to be cognizant of.

 

[Dirthand]

With the PhloJel, it feels dry to me in 10 seconds, but it can still be transferred to somebody who comes in contact with it for a few hours afterwards.

I believe is safe to take a shower ~4+ hours after application. I simply apply it after I’m dried off from my morning shower, then go about my day.

During my weekly yard work day, I apply it first thing in the morning and get to work shortly afterwards. Yardwork takes me a minimum of 5+ hours weed whacking + blowing + mowing on easy weeks (takes 8+ hours during fall) and I have zero issues even though I’m sweating like crazy at times. I have no worries about sweating this out because it’s already doing it magic shortly after it’s applied.

On workout days, I apply it in the morning when I inject my HGH, wait 2 hours, then workout for a couple hours, then do 1+ hours of LISS cardio with my weight vest through the forest. I’m sweating like a pig through part of this and have zero issues with the cream feeling like it lost its magic.

Zero performance issues with my wife no matter the time of day (even before morning application), so it’s definitely working for me.

The only thing I’m worried about is shedding my hair, but so far so good and maybe that’s because I’m on 0.25mg/day finasteride? I’ve read where other people do have hair loss issues with creams, so that’s something to be cognizant of.

The only thing I am interested in is using it as a quick absorbed boost.. it seems as if this method is more more leaning twards a method of trt. What about estrogen conversion. Injecting tne does not seem to spike mine..

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Been thinking about moving to test D after I get through all the cyp I have. I'm getting away with 300mg/mL cyp but having 500mg/mL D would be nice. I'm anxious to here how that batch does for you and your test results.

Dont really need test results if you have a good track record.

Any moron can use a calculator and let the thing spin, use graduated cylinders, beaker, and let the DJ spin that shit

 

[qadsan]

The only thing I am interested in is using it as a quick absorbed boost.. it seems as if this method is more more leaning twards a method of trt. What about estrogen conversion. Injecting tne does not seem to spike min

I haven’t done labs yet to know first hand what my E2 is on this.

For quicker absorption you could spray it down with DMSO. I read where you can make a fast absorbing spray with test base, undenatured ethanol and fractionated coconut oil, but I’ve not tried it. I’m not sure how much ethanol to coconut oil to use, but I’d image the higher the ethanol, the better and quicker the absorption, but higher amounts of ethanol will irritate the skin. It’s something to experiment with and someday I’ll get around to it, but finding 200 proof undenatured alcohol where I live is a problem, unlike other areas where it can be easily obtained.

 

[Oakley6575]

Dont really need test results if you have a good track record.

Any moron can use a calculator and let the thing spin, use graduated cylinders, beaker, and let the DJ spin that shit

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I'm more interested in seeing how the test d feels at that concentration. Any pip or issues related to such a high concentration. My cyp feels great but would like the higher concentration since I'm a high test guy.

 

[Dirthand]

Dont really need test results if you have a good track record.

Any moron can use a calculator and let the thing spin, use graduated cylinders, beaker, and let the DJ spin that shit

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This is true I was thinking the other day about here a while back when a certain domestic lab here on meso was having gear test severely overdosed..I would think yoy either gotta be tweaked out or just not give a shit to get that far off.. I'm lazy and don't want to have to clean a bunch of crap so I've been using syringes to measure with.. just in case the sample I sent comes back horrible.. . I already agree to being a moron so....... there's that

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I'm more interested in seeing how the test d feels at that concentration. Any pip or issues related to such a high concentration. My cyp feels great but would like the higher concentration since I'm a high test guy.

no

feels smoother than Test C which blew my mind

its a little weaker mg for mg compared to Test U

 

[Oakley6575]

no

feels smoother than Test C which blew my mind

its a little weaker mg for mg compared to Test U

Oh wow that is good to know. Isn't it around 0.63?

 

[Oakley6575]

Oh wow that is good to know. Isn't it around 0.63?

Don't know how accurate this is but I found decanoate is .65, U is .63, and cyp is .7.

 

[Dirthand]

no

feels smoother than Test C which blew my mind

its a little weaker mg for mg compared to Test U

What carrier oil did you use?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

What carrier oil did you use?

MCT.

 

[Dirthand]

MCT.

Me too.
I read a while back somewhere you posted that tou had got some of the straight C8 mct and was going to try it.Did tou notice any difference between that and the 60/40 C8/C10?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Me too.
I read a while back somewhere you posted that tou had got some of the straight C8 mct and was going to try it.Did tou notice any difference between that and the 60/40 C8/C10?

No, but I got some syringes that MCT was leeching.... Filtered oil was cloudy...

 

[Sampei]

@dirthand can you please tell me all the equipment you have bought to do the mediacap filter setup.

1) So Kstek sell media bottle + topcap filter + vacuum setup all sterilized.

2) Then what I need after? A suction pump? Any link so I can have an idea on what to buy.

3) Where did you buy the septa caps for the sterile media bottle, that you use to seal the media bottle and then draw from it to transfer into smaller vials?

Was the Deca 400 pipless? Still holding at 20% BB?

What about the test D 500 with 25% BB, pipless as well?

Same with the masteron 350 and Tren 250?

I was thinking on brewing Primo 250/300mg in castor oil with high BB like 30-35%

Not sure if it would be better of MCT with 22-23% BB

And if both or any of those primo would be pipless.